Current Events > Who contributes more to society: landlords or streamers?

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Streamers leading

Streamers leading by far

That's "Streamlords" to you, peasant.

Landlords are a net negative.

Streamers. I've never had to give a dime to a single streamer and still enjoy their content.

Pit bulls

Landlords.

Corporate landlords exist and are gobbling market share fast so streamers it is.

Tyranthraxus posted...

Landlords are a net negative.

What makes you utter such an thing, old chap?

Trickfinger posted...

What makes you utter such an thing, old chap?

Shut the fuck up

Tyranthraxus posted...

Shut the fuck up

So you just made that up about landlords being a "net negative" lol?

So you just made that up about landlords being a "net negative" lol?

No, you did...

I guess you're back from when you were warned.
I made a topic for you, but I didn't tell anyone it was you.

No, you did...

Turbam posted...

I guess you're back from when you were warned.
I made a topic for you, but I didn't tell anyone it was you.

Huh?

I haven't been Warned in years.

Trickfinger posted...

Huh?

I haven't been Warned in years.

Not true, you're lying and fibbin.

The whole landlord thing with "I'M A lEfTisT NoT LibErAl"s online is so insanely corny, paints a sweeping generalization, and *surprise surprise* is classist or racist in some rare cases.

Sure gentrification and slumlords are bad, and big corporate entities buying up properties solely for speculation or exploitation are bad - but smaller renters are not an issue. I honestly love that I don't have to worry about yard work, repairs, upkeep, etc. and I have someone else do all that shit for me. Even before I lived at an apartment - the couple my ex and I rented from were always there when I needed them, they were always on top of paying for repairs or reimbursing anything that her and I did, etc. That's a huge weight off my shoulders. My girlfriend and I are terrible with time management and keeping up with basic chores -- I can't imagine how much worse it would be if we were home owners and had to deal with bullshit like cleaning gutters, routine maintenance, etc. Plus it'd cost a lot, lot more to be paying independent contractors for all those services privately.

As for the classism/racism thing -- my friend/coworker rents from an older immigrant who was literally just a handyman before he moved here to the US, and his English is really poor. Renting is utilizing his skillset and giving him reliable income - when he's struggled to keep employment otherwise here in the US. He also isn't living high on the hog, abusing his power, or neglecting his renters at all.

bobbaaay posted...

The whole landlord thing with "I'M A lEfTisT NoT LibErAl"s online is so insanely corny, paints a sweeping generalization, and *surprise surprise* is classist or racist in some rare cases.

Sure gentrification and slumlords are bad, and big corporate entities buying up properties solely for speculation or exploitation are bad - but smaller renters are not an issue. I honestly love that I don't have to worry about yard work, repairs, upkeep, etc. and I have someone else do all that shit for me. Even before I lived at an apartment - the couple my ex and I rented from were always there when I needed them, they were always on top of paying for repairs or reimbursing anything that her and I did, etc. That's a huge weight off my shoulders. My girlfriend and I are terrible with time management and keeping up with basic chores -- I can't imagine how much worse it would be if we were home owners and had to deal with bullshit like cleaning gutters, routine maintenance, etc. Plus it'd cost a lot, lot more to be paying independent contractors for all those services privately.

As for the classism/racism thing -- my friend/coworker rents from an older immigrant who was literally just a handyman before he moved here to the US, and his English is really poor. Renting is utilizing his skillset and giving him reliable income - when he's struggled to keep employment otherwise here in the US. He also isn't living high on the hog, abusing his power, or neglecting his renters at all.

"My experience is indicative of everyone's"

mario2000 posted...

"My experience is indicative of everyone's"

Not what I said. I'm saying that people who say those things are referring to specific types of landlords or corporate entities and not the actual concept itself. It's short sighted and super willfully ignorant.

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The reasons people dislike landlords are usually exaggerated caricatures and those people need to touch grass

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I also said in some examples. It's a common-ass thing for "I'M a LeFtISt Not LiBeRal" people. Same goes with military and how recruiters target low-income areas with the promise of free education, and the percentage of people who enlist who are POC. Same goes with defending digital vigilantism and doxxing people online for their ignorant actions in public, when plenty of times those people being filmed are victims of mental illness or substance abuse.

It's fine to hate the concept or hate the system - but when you're ignorantly projecting that hate onto individuals you're bound to commit some accidental racism or classism.

Landlords. Streamers are a stain on society.

Muflaggin posted...

Landlords. Streamers are a stain on society.

sorry the streamer didn't read your epic comment

lol

I wish neither existed tbh

marthsheretoo posted...

I wish neither existed tbh

What makes you utter such a thing, old chum?

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I mean - if you're going to say something like that, should we just go ahead and make elderly people with severe dementia "totally accountable" for dumb or ignorant shit they say? You can tell a lot of people who are recorded in videos in public freak outs have signs of drug abuse or untreated mental disorders. To answer your question simply - yes, that should be a get-out-of-jail-free card. They should just be ignored - not instigated further. It's likely a fragile person thrashing in a corner and not a certified bully.
To give a real life example - there was a dude who lived in the town I grew up in who had his entire family die in a barn fire. As an adult he carried around a photo of a family member and a photo of Elvis Presley - and he'd talk to them in public, oftentimes having screaming "arguments" with them. When I was a kid we thought this was the funniest shit ever, and I've heard stories of other people going so far as to provoke him - usually leading to him threatening violence. He was incredibly unstable. Even if the dude was an asshole a lot of the time - what good would provoking him or trying to make him "accountable" do?

If people claim the point of recording people in public is teaching them a lesson or holding them "accountable," what lesson is being taught to someone who requires a lot of special attention to actually change? People who have bigger shit going on that they need help changing? The whole idea of "teaching people lessons" is just some excuse - because in most cases that's not at all the sincere end goal of people recording. They usually just want to get some clout or exert their own power and influence over others. You can temporarily embarrass a person or confront them without making it a public spectacle online. I've done it plenty of times with people treating workers poorly.

And if a person's drug abuse stems from being a coping mechanism for dealing with poverty - then yes, it's incredibly classist to target them specifically.

Landlords are parasites who steal from the tenants for profit and need to be abolished!

How does TC make topics that aren't just "Fuck out my face" in every single post?

On topic: Fuck out my face.

Lokison posted...

How does TC make topics that aren't just "Fuck out my face" in every single post?

You can't prove a negative.

Lokison posted...

How does TC make topics that aren't just "Fuck out my face" in every single post?

On topic: Fuck out my face.

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Landlords don't provide shit.

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The point is nobody should be targeted and have themselves shared online without their consent. Ever. It's not about teaching lessons when it's irreversible once it's online. Even if a lesson is "learned," the repercussions never cease to exist.

I also didn't say in all cases drug abuse is directly correlated to SES, but I'm saying in cases where it is. It's similar to the joke "i'M noT LibErAl, I'M LefTisTs" make about "liberals" being classist towards poor people in rural areas. It's very, very similar and not shows their lack of self awareness.

I also am not comparing anyone to toddlers. I don't think anybody should be targeted with digital vigilantism - drug dependent, drug free, mentally stable or unstable. Everybody should be given fair ground to defend themselves and ample space to better themselves and learn -- but people who are under the influence of a mind altering substance or can't think clearly at the moment should not be treated as though they're in complete control of themselves. That's not offensive or treating anybody like a toddler. You sound like some crazy ass libertarian conservative right now with some personal responsibility bullshit. If somebody's mind is literally altered at the moment that's not fair grounds. The dementia example is a great example of that.