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Noumas
04/16/23 8:46:14 AM
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https://youtu.be/1wnE4vF9CQ4

And yet it got canceled while Naruto and one piece kept going.
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remandramdoll
04/16/23 8:48:17 AM
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Hatsune Miku did leek memes better

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Noumas
04/16/23 3:15:50 PM
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You think so?
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Ricemills
04/16/23 3:18:06 PM
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Big 3 is just US thing.
As for the question, bleach sucks after/during that hocomondo stuffs, the popularity plummeted but still has enough to stay on the magazine.

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CreekCo
04/16/23 3:20:17 PM
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HM arc went on years longer than it should have.
TYW arc is trash imo; ending alienated half the fan base permanently.

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Hoodroar
04/16/23 3:21:06 PM
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Too much of a decline after the Soul Society arc ended. Anime went into filler hell and the canon arc afterwards was also shit.

Ricemills posted...
Big 3 is just US thing.

But One Piece flopped massively in the US. It wasn't big anything here lol.

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Solar_Crimson
04/16/23 3:21:16 PM
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I personally fell off during the Hueco Mundo arc.

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Prismsblade
04/16/23 3:27:57 PM
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As others have said, the decline post soul society arc and the filler hell are what killed its popularity gradually overtime.

Not sure how Naruto made it though, nor how one piece avoided excessive filler then.

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Ricemills
04/16/23 3:33:01 PM
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Prismsblade posted...
how one piece avoided excessive filler then.

They simply have excessive padding instead of filler.

And Naruto filler hell is anime only, the manga is still going strong.
The case with bleach is because the source material sucks, Hueco Mundo is still bad even in the manga.

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Turbam
04/16/23 3:35:03 PM
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The meme was co-opted by Hatsune Miku, until it eventually became just her meme.

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TheDurinator
04/16/23 3:36:12 PM
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Because it just wasn't good past soul society arc. Personally I only read the manga and never watched the anime so I can't speak for the quality of its filler arc. Bleach was carried by Kubo's art and everyone wanting to see the bankai of all of the captains. Once the latter happened the art alone wasn't enough to keep it going so it got canceled.
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Notti
04/16/23 3:36:31 PM
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Aizen was the ending people were good with. There was no coming back from it. Fullbringwut? No way were people interested in starting over. I knew several Manga peeps who just straight up left Bleach.

I think what did it in was there was very little else to hook people into wanting to see what happened next.

The important threads and even a lot of lesser threads felt completed. The journey done.

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dameon_reaper
04/16/23 3:41:05 PM
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Notti posted...
Aizen was the ending people were good with. There was no coming back from it. Fullbringwut? No way were people interested in starting over. I knew several Manga peeps who just straight up left Bleach.

I think what did it in was there was very little else to hook people into wanting to see what happened next.

The important threads and even a lot of lesser threads felt completed. The journey done.

I didn't even mean to but that's what happened to me. I just stopped right after Aizen.
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Muflaggin
04/16/23 4:20:55 PM
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Trash was ways trash.
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PowerOats
04/16/23 4:30:04 PM
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A better question is how did One Piece get so big/popular?
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deoxxys
04/16/23 11:19:19 PM
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The meme is irrelevant, kinda like Bleach was after the Soul Society.

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Irony
04/16/23 11:21:29 PM
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Prismsblade posted...
As others have said, the decline post soul society arc and the filler hell are what killed its popularity gradually overtime.

Not sure how Naruto made it though, nor how one piece avoided excessive filler then.
One Piece has episodes that are only like half of a chapter

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Mad-Dogg
04/16/23 11:39:39 PM
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PowerOats posted...
A better question is how did One Piece get so big/popular?
Oda made a really fun n' wacky world so most of the time its entertaining as hell watching the straw hats get into some stupid shit. Anime filler but still hilarious...the anime crew knows luffy's character:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDSTe6A-Flg

Even during the super serious business moments there is moments in there that makes you crack a smile for a bit before it gets back to the punching and slashing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysmzbi1P0HA

Interesting world, interesting and most of the time goofy characters, and humor that most of the time hits just right. Makes for a great shonen.

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deoxxys
04/16/23 11:42:00 PM
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One Piece manga is superior to its anime version imo and it has a gorgeous colored version. Bleach was pretty but even the manga couldnt deliver a compelling story.

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Mad-Dogg
04/16/23 11:46:17 PM
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deoxxys posted...
One Piece manga is superior to its anime version imo
You def won't find many people that would argue otherwise, lol.

Personally I only really look up clips when I want to see a certain humor panel, emotional moment (the "he laughed" panel) or fight animated....and even then with the fights its usually some clipshow someone on youtube made cutting out the interjections and staredowns.

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deoxxys
04/16/23 11:51:03 PM
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I use to do the same with Naruto.

Though the anime vs manga thing isnt as strong if you compare it to something like Berserk, which has abyssmal cgi adaptations, or Promised Neverland which skips the fan's favorite arc. At least One Piece has One Pace to fix pacing issues, albeit it still would have the art issue.

I am trying to imagine a world where we could get an dream anime that looks identical to the manga.

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Noumas
04/19/23 4:42:10 AM
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deoxxys posted...
One Piece manga is superior to its anime version
Has there ever been a time this was not the case?
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deoxxys
04/19/23 4:47:28 AM
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Noumas posted...
Has there ever been a time this was not the case?
Some anime has fine quality and pacing

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TheSavageDragon
04/19/23 5:48:08 AM
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Bleach's brand identity lies more with the music I'd say. There's not a single person that has watched Bleach that can't instantly pull out a few lyrics of Ichigo's theme.
And that's sort of true even for the manga. Kubo has a few pages at the end of each manga that describes who a character is and each of them have their own song of IRL licensed music that defines them which isn't in the anime for obvious reasons

Anime Ichigo's theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIM49fRuKEE

Manga Ichigo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZNqKgcmtic
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Noumas
04/19/23 6:02:19 AM
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Bleach's brand identity is DBZ with swords, isn't it?
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Mistere_Man
04/19/23 6:25:50 AM
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This topic reminded me of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaB-e3C2Sek

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VGAddict90
04/19/23 6:27:12 AM
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I miss mid-to-late 2000s-early 2010s internet.

Caramelldansen, Hare Hare Yukai, Chocolate Rain, YouTube Poop, Over 9000, Never Gonna Give You Up.
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Ricemills
04/19/23 6:37:45 AM
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Noumas posted...
Bleach's brand identity is DBZ with swords, isn't it?

Yu Yu Hakusho with swords and less background.


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Noumas
04/22/23 2:43:10 AM
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VGAddict90 posted...
I miss mid-to-late 2000s-early 2010s internet.

Caramelldansen, Hare Hare Yukai, Chocolate Rain, YouTube Poop, Over 9000, Never Gonna Give You Up.
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MedeaLysistrata
04/22/23 2:47:12 AM
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I didn't even know that was actually Orihime...

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CreekCo
04/23/23 5:32:11 PM
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Noumas posted...
What about Haruhi dance was she big enough to be a meme?

Haruhi was so big she was even in an aspirin commercial or something. There were flash mobs around the world doing her dance and people were wearing the club armbands during irl civil uprisings.

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kirbymuncher
04/23/23 5:33:13 PM
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Noumas posted...
Haruhi dance

VGAddict90 posted...
Hare Hare Yukai,


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Noumas
04/26/23 12:25:28 AM
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CreekCo posted...
Haruhi was so big she was even in an aspirin commercial or something. There were flash mobs around the world doing her dance and people were wearing the club armbands during irl civil uprisings.
That's crazy and for an only 14 episode anime that they never really expanded on. Even school rumble had a ton more episodes
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WingsOfGood
04/26/23 12:30:37 AM
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Fullbring arc was just that dumb
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Kim_Seong-a
04/26/23 12:44:37 AM
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I've never watched Bleach and my only knowledge of the show through cultural osmosis is that every new arc started with the revelation that Ichigo was secretly part (whatever species is being introduced in that arc)

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Rharyx211
04/26/23 10:44:01 PM
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It's only because the Arrancar arc dragged on for so long, and the anime made things 10x worse with its shit pacing and abruptly-placed filler arcs.

By the time we got to actual interesting stuff again, the damage was done.

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Letron_James
04/26/23 10:47:25 PM
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Kim_Seong-a posted...
I've never watched Bleach and my only knowledge of the show through cultural osmosis is that every new arc started with the revelation that Ichigo was secretly part (whatever species is being introduced in that arc)

He's literally like 5 different things lol. I won't spoil how exactly, it kinda makes sense given the contexts but still it was a very tedious way of saying "Ichigo is special this is why he has so many random power ups"

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Prestoff
04/26/23 10:50:16 PM
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The Heart was the better meme.

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TerraSeeker
04/26/23 10:59:25 PM
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It is still part of the big three. You don't lose that.

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Ricemills
04/27/23 6:34:52 AM
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Noumas posted...
Has there ever been a time this was not the case?

Many slice of life and comedy anime has it better than the manga. Especially the 4-Panel manga.

Konosuba is a big success because the anime is so good.
Bocchi the Rock, K-On!, Lucky Star, etc are better as an Anime than manga.


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Noumas
04/30/23 5:15:32 AM
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Ricemills posted...
Many slice of life and comedy anime has it better than the manga. Especially the 4-Panel manga.

Konosuba is a big success because the anime is so good.
Bocchi the Rock, K-On!, Lucky Star, etc are better as an Anime than manga.
What about school rumble or Ouran high?
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Ricemills
04/30/23 8:34:26 AM
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Noumas posted...
What about school rumble or Ouran high?

School Rumble is a mix. Anime missing the small commentary on the sides of each pages, but animated many scenes well especially the survival game.
I never watch Ouran anime.

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Noumena
04/30/23 10:36:46 AM
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>watching 2cool dubs

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BurmesePenguin
04/30/23 10:37:50 AM
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YTMND was the hottest shit on the internet for a while, but I doubt 5 percent of people using it saw Finding Forrester.
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LordFarquad1312
04/30/23 10:39:41 AM
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Because the author got into the habit of dropping a whole ink bottle ever chapter, which meant the story took ages to move forward.

And since the manga moved at a snails pace, the anime had to introduce inhuman amounts of filler.

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Tyranthraxus
04/30/23 10:43:01 AM
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Noumas posted...
That's crazy and for an only 14 episode anime that they never really expanded on. Even school rumble had a ton more episodes

Haruhi has much more than 14 episodes plus the disappearance movie that they never followed up on.

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Noumas
05/03/23 12:03:17 AM
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BurmesePenguin posted...
YTMND was the hottest shit on the internet for a while, but I doubt 5 percent of people using it saw Finding Forrester.
I've literally never Googled this meme before today in all my years of seeing it in the late 2000s and I had no idea it was a Sean Connery meme this whole time wtf?
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Gamespoht
05/03/23 12:13:18 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Haruhi has much more than 14 episodes plus the disappearance movie that they never followed up on.
Maybe you count that long-ass summer arc that was the same fucking episode

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05/03/23 12:18:51 AM
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Letron_James posted...
He's literally like 5 different things lol. I won't spoil how exactly, it kinda makes sense given the contexts but still it was a very tedious way of saying "Ichigo is special this is why he has so many random power ups"
I don't know if I'd call them power ups. It seemed that at the end of each arc, he lost all his power. Then they had to come up with a new way for him to be relevent again. But for all his specialness, Aizen was on a whole other level. How can you top it when the villain breaks the hero's theme song? I mean, the song comes on and you know it's ass kicking time. And yet he was stronger than the fourth wall.

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