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Glob
04/15/23 7:13:18 AM
#152:


Crow0000 posted...
I've met over 50-80 women in 'dates' /meeting from online and have had sex multiple times.
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Crow0000
04/15/23 7:58:38 AM
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Glob posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/6/5/AAJMZcAADN_1.jpg
Billie Ellish herself insulted men for their looks
https://youtu.be/YavL_IVSGV4?t=189

So again, when you have popular people like her who represent what women typically believe, you can't tell me that women care about most men.
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Heartomaton
04/15/23 11:49:33 AM
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Must not have been just any old red pill. Boy took friggin' crimson.

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CyricZ
04/15/23 11:56:40 AM
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Wow this topic got RIPE.

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Crow0000
04/15/23 12:22:57 PM
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Explain how you have a lot of honor or integrity



Anyone can get into a relationship with anyone pretty easy.

Except no..they can't? Getting into a relationship as a Guy isn't easy. Because said guy is competing with tons of other guys. Women have tons of options, hence why Women reject Men more often.



If we are aware there are many people who are bad and that being victimized is higher in regards to physical disparity it makes sense to be cautious.

Learn Boxing, Judo and/or Brazillian Jiujitsu.

Sure. Because toxic masculinity exists. I have stated this and no one is denying it. Those are examples of toxic masculinity.

A rugged man not wanting to wear a dress and heels isn't toxic masculinity. Nor is it toxic for him to provide for his family.



Oh and your "traditional roles" they do still exist but statistics show that men who value "traditional" roles are struggling finding partners compared to those who don't. So...
Women want a traditional man, while not being traditional themselves. Hence why they still want and expect men to do all the work.

"Yeah, and many of those men also expect a women to work actually while also taking care of the home and kids. While they simply work." And then the statistic dump therein regarding this.
Men and women are not the same. A woman's career doesn't matter to most men. In society, men are still expected to provide and get a high earning job. A mans career matters to a woman because it's indicative of how much value he'll bring to the relationship.

Oh no! Billie Eillish make fun of men for their looks! Good thing no one insults women for their looks. Good thing there isn't something like a goldeen meme about hers. Because the only people who make fun of others for their looks are women. This isn't something just anyone does. Oh no. Just women. No one ever makes fun of how we look /s

It's not socially acceptable for men to make fun of women. It is however, socially acceptable for a woman to make fun of a man. To where women will feel it's acceptable to "expose" men who look their direction

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CyricZ
04/15/23 12:27:48 PM
#159:


Hey Crow maybe it's you.

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legendary_zell
04/15/23 12:32:25 PM
#160:


Crow, you are deep in a mental hole and I'd advise you to seek out some different influences. Maybe start a new Youtube account to refresh your algorithm and watch some content from the other side of the cultural/political spectrum. Read some bell hooks. This attitude towards women and relationships is not going to help you.

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Crow0000
04/15/23 12:33:00 PM
#161:


legendary_zell posted...
Crow, you are deep in a mental hole and I'd advise you to seek out some different influences. Maybe start a new Youtube account to refresh your algorithm and watch some content from the other side of the cultural/political spectrum. Read some bell hooks. This attitude towards women and relationships is not going to help you.
Im an avid watcher of Fresh & Fit, Whatever Podcast, JustPearlyThings, and Andrew Tate shorts
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Heartomaton
04/15/23 12:33:19 PM
#162:


There it is.

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Sad_Face
04/15/23 12:35:10 PM
#163:


https://twitter.com/pewresearch/status/1623352132375302144?s=20

Is it an anomaly that the Pew Research survey reported 63% of males 18-30 are single versus 34% of their female peers? Why is this happening? Is this something to be worried about?

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legendary_zell
04/15/23 12:38:04 PM
#164:


Crow0000 posted...
Im an avid watcher of Fresh & Fit, Whatever Podcast, JustPearlyThings, and Andrew Tate shorts


..............Is this a joke? I hope it was. If not, this may be the worst possible response to what I said. Wash your brain out with some Contrapoints or FDsignifier. You took a wrong turn at Albuquerque.

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bsp77
04/15/23 12:42:06 PM
#165:


Crow0000 posted...
Im an avid watcher of Fresh & Fit, Whatever Podcast, JustPearlyThings, and Andrew Tate shorts
Is this a joke account or are you simply a joke?

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Crow0000
04/15/23 12:44:00 PM
#166:


bsp77 posted...
Is this a joke account or are you simply a joke?
Please explain to me indepth what exactly is wrong with watching them

They bring up a lot of good points. Men and women aren't the same. Attraction isn't symmetrical. What a man looks for a woman, isn't the same thing a woman looks for a man. Men and women both have their advantages/disadvantages in society and in the dating scene, women absolutely have an advantage over men.
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masticatingman
04/15/23 12:44:04 PM
#167:


Dating apps are in a weird territory where theyre trying to protect the female users from online harassment by horny dudes coupled with the fact that women are societally taught to not be the aggressor in formal courtships. Also, the apps are ultimately trying to make money as well.

They do still work, but they were overall much more user friendly even just a few years ago.

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CyricZ
04/15/23 1:10:38 PM
#169:


Crow0000 posted...
Men and women aren't the same
This one you keep coming back to.

Buddy, no one's the same.

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Supersex420
04/15/23 1:17:44 PM
#170:


i'm still gonna use tinder

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BeantownHero
04/15/23 3:35:17 PM
#175:


Supersex420 posted...
i'm still gonna use tinder


Its not terrible for finding people for sexy time if you live in a major area.

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bsp77
04/15/23 4:21:11 PM
#176:


Crow0000 posted...
Please explain to me indepth what exactly is wrong with watching them

They bring up a lot of good points. Men and women aren't the same. Attraction isn't symmetrical. What a man looks for a woman, isn't the same thing a woman looks for a man. Men and women both have their advantages/disadvantages in society and in the dating scene, women absolutely have an advantage over men.
Never said men and women are the same, but most of what you say is utter bullshit. So this is either a joke account or you are completely clueless. Either way you are not worthy of my time.

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Hoodroar
04/15/23 5:45:09 PM
#177:


cuttin_in_farm posted...
Yea, but making the first move isnt whats hard.

If you're socially stunted in some manner it absolutely is. In that situation the one expected to make the first move will have it infinitely harder than the one who doesn't have to.

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DoctorPiranha3
04/15/23 5:46:08 PM
#178:


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I wouldn't say men are as successful with online dating as you're making them out to be. A 5/10 girl could swipe right and match with literally every single man. An 8/10 guy could Swipe right and maybe get 5 matches out of 100 swipes, of which maybe 1 might respond.

It's far more conducive for men to meet more attractive girls IRL than online, or at least girls that are within the guys' level of attractiveness just based on sheer volume of men vs. women online. I guess if men want to date down a little, sure, they're successful online more often than not.
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haloiscoolisbak
04/15/23 5:49:28 PM
#179:


Hoodroar posted...
If you're socially stunted in some manner it absolutely is. In that situation the one expected to make the first move will have it infinitely harder than the one who doesn't have to.

Yeah, making the first move is the hardest part of dating. After that walls been breached things become way more natural

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haloiscoolisbak
04/15/23 5:53:29 PM
#180:


Antifar posted...

Antifar posted...
I think it's worth considering alternatives; these apps don't exist in a vacuum.

Yeah, I found myself discouraged at times on Hinge or the other apps, but I also know that they allowed me to have ten times the success that I would've found trying to meet women in person, or flirting with strangers at a bar. For my anxiety, the relative clarity of purpose on a dating app cleared away a lot of the inhibitions I'd feel approaching someone in person.


The bolded part is so true. Before dating apps I'd hang out with girls not knowing if it was an actual date etc, dating apps there's none of that confusion.

You'll strike out more and have people you meet once and never again but you'll never be stuck in this weird "do they know I'm interested in them" thought process

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Sad_Face
04/15/23 7:37:20 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/3/7/AAWh3OAAEYuN.jpg

Reposting from my post (just the twitter link source) at #163.

Is it an anomaly that the Pew Research survey reported 63% of males 18-30 are single versus 34% of their female peers? Why is this happening? Is this something to be worried about?

And bonus question, which of the demographics is most likely to be a consistent viewer of Andrew Tate and the rest of those guys Crow listed?

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CyricZ
04/15/23 8:21:16 PM
#182:


Someone has a Sad_Face that no one cared to engage them.

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CanuckCowboy
04/15/23 8:28:03 PM
#183:


deoxxys posted...
I was on the phone with my cousin for 2 hours tonight and we were actually talking about how awful dating apps are for men

The truth is pretty much every woman on dating apps have dozens of choices and many men they have matched with hitting them up in DMs. If women aren't responding it's just because you weren't chosen. They took a look at their options and maybe chose one or a few guys to dedicate talking to. Because realistically, If you go to a buffet you're not going to eat every single food just because it's available, You're going to pick your favorites or whatever looks the tastiest.

Well if your cousin agrees thats basically scientific proof everything you think is true....

Like dude the only posts I see from you are ones that sound super bitter about being a dude and the whole "burden" that brings.

Do yourself a favor and consider the possibility you need to approach women better.

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Hoodroar
04/15/23 8:46:17 PM
#184:


CyricZ posted...
Someone has a Sad_Face that no one cared to engage them.

There's nothing to engage, stats are stats and without context we can't really speculate on the discrepancy in the numbers.

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Homeless_Waifu
04/15/23 9:18:35 PM
#185:


Sad_Face posted...
https://twitter.com/pewresearch/status/1623352132375302144?s=20

Is it an anomaly that the Pew Research survey reported 63% of males 18-30 are single versus 34% of their female peers? Why is this happening? Is this something to be worried about?
2D women are too op'ed

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Sad_Face
04/16/23 10:51:21 AM
#187:


Hoodroar posted...
There's nothing to engage, stats are stats and without context we can't really speculate on the discrepancy in the numbers.


You can speculate on how it would manifest in society. For instance, Gladius' point on men and women having similar online dating app experiences make no sense when factoring in this data point. Dating apps have skyrocketed in usage over the past decade and is one of the dominant forms of dating. A conclusion to make is that either online dating apps don't help men (18-30) at best, or at worst it is a massive detriment to men.

On top of that, it begs the question of who these women are dating to leave such a massive pool of single men?

Gladius_ posted...
You were there in a thread dedicated to that in the past, got your answers, people debated me, and lost. So why go through it again?


I wasn't there for this actually. And I bring it up because you guys are making it out to be a person "Crow" problem while calling him a troll, joke account, joke, and not worthy of a response. So how many guys have to go through the same experience to recognize it's not a personal problem or there might be factors out of his control that didn't exist 30-50 years ago?

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CyricZ
04/16/23 11:21:55 AM
#188:


Sad_Face posted...
And I bring it up because you guys are making it out to be a person "Crow" problem while calling him a troll, joke account, joke, and not worthy of a response. So how many guys have to go through the same experience to recognize it's not a personal problem or there might be factors out of his control that didn't exist 30-50 years ago?
If someone is going to enter this community and make judgments of an entire gender, they will be addressed accordingly. Perhaps it is a cry for help, but this is not the place for that, and it's arrogant to expect a community to bend over backwards to coddle someone's insults.

If a person is seeking help and support, there are places for that. If they're just looking to cause strife, they will have it.

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bobbaaay
04/16/23 1:37:43 PM
#192:


I'm not reading this whole thread. But I will say I disagree a ton about them being bad.
I literally would've had zero dates and had sex zero times (aside from craigslist casual, etc.) if it wasn't for dating sites. I would likely be a virgin and an incel at this moment if it wasn't for them.

Dating sites are great because you can get to know a little about a person from reading their bio. Offline you can't just assume a ton of shit about a person by just looking at them at a show or bar or wherever the fuck people meet people -- so you're likely required to small talk if you're approaching total strangers. As for people who aren't total strangers - there's a bigger fear or rejection and awkwardness, especially in workplace settings. You don't know how the other person will reciprocate because you don't know what exactly they're looking for without knowing them incredibly well; on dating sites you know everyone is either there for dating or sex, so you can assume those two things when engaging in conversation. Without that foreknowledge I'd be even less likely to talk or flirt with someone offline, especially if I fear it could be misconstrued as sexual harassment or create future awkwardness.

Like if you say you hate dating sites - what's your alternative? Because approaching strangers or rolling the dice with acquaintances offline is way, way more difficult and carries much bigger risk.

As for my advice with dating sites just ask questions, man. If there's anything in a profile that could prompt a question - use it. It gets your foot in the door and you'll be more likely to get a response and at least a shot at an ongoing conversation -- it also shows women that you're willing to take the time and listen. I'm fat and out of shape, constantly broke, barely ever made any money above the poverty line until a few years ago, put zero effort into updating my wardrobe ever, am not successful by anybody's standards, etc. or whatever other crap incels try and say guys need -- and I don't have any troubles online on dating sites at all.
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random_man9119
04/16/23 1:43:36 PM
#193:


bobbaaay posted...
As for my advice with dating sites just ask questions, man. If there's anything in a profile that could prompt a question - use it. It gets your foot in the door and you'll be more likely to get a response and at least a shot at an ongoing conversation -- it also shows women that you're willing to take the time and listen.

Stuff like this is great advice... But kind of useless if you don't even get matches to begin with... Which I'm sure I'm not the only one with that reason for hating daring apps...

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bobbaaay
04/16/23 1:45:37 PM
#194:


random_man9119 posted...
Stuff like this is great advice... But kind of useless if you don't even get matches to begin with... Which I'm sure I'm not the only one with that reason for hating daring apps...

I guess I've never used tindr. My experience is more through back when OKCupid was a thing and through sex/adult dating sites.
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Heartomaton
04/16/23 1:52:01 PM
#195:


I'll give a legitimate reason why dating apps, or at least Facebook dating, can suck:

Glitches. Facebook dating gives you the option to either like a profile overall with the heart button or comment on an individual photo or profile element and send that along with a like. But what happens most of the times you choose the second option? Not a goddamn thing. It'll tell you that the message/like has been sent, but the next time you get a new batch of profiles to look through, the one you sent that message/like to will be shuffled back into them as if it's the first time you've seen it.

You'd think a company as large as The Zuckerbeast Amalgamation would have a better-programmed app, but no. Frustrating as fuck.

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random_man9119
04/16/23 2:54:19 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


Having horrible pictures and being boring aside... I also live in a place heavily into outdoor activities (camping, hiking, snowboarding are the big three) and sports and I do not like any of those things at all... So it's hard to find profiles to like in the first place...

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