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masterplum
04/12/23 12:50:29 PM
#301:


4-8

Scum
Corrik
Abacus

4-13
Scum
Plum (Solely on bringing up independents)

4-90
Lean scum
IGCD

4-149
Lean town
Peaf
Wallz (150)

Ok here is potentially something. This is when Corrik claimed to have visited Lea and wasn't seen

htaeD posted...
Corrik why couldn't a townrole have targeted Lea?

htaeD posted...
Actually why am I even believing that


What exactly happened to Death's suspicion of Corrik? It was me, followed by Corrik and Abacus.

htaeD posted...
None of this makes sense anyway

The thing to do here if Corrik is not lying (X to doubt!) would be to sametime with Isquen


I just don't know if I buy this comes from a town Death who previously had suspicions of Corrik. Also why would they same time if you don't believe?

htaeD posted...
I buy Lopen claiming cop in this situation because its a dilemma I have struggled with myself as scanner whenever I got roleblocked, and this power sounds even worse. Also makes me see his theorycrafting against Lea today in a different light.


Is town death really posting explanation of why he buys an uncountered cop claim?

End of topic 4

Man Death posts a lot, and man death posts a lot of random stuff that doesn't seem to advance the gamestate at all.

I thought I recalled death not being this much of a travelogger.


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masterplum
04/12/23 12:59:12 PM
#302:


Am I actually looking back at death from Star Trek. I guess I am

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/9/7/AANz_VAAEYDZ.jpg

This Town Death seems way more foreceful than death has been all game

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/9/8/AANz_VAAEYDa.png

Ok sure

##Vote:Death

The recurring thought I had about death rereading him through the first 5 topics (And I ran out of time so I need to end it there) is "It doesn't seem like death cares at all"

Checking back at the last game Death was town he absolutely did care. He is asking questions like he did in that game but it actually feels like in his town game Death cares about the answers.

I think I like this better than IGCD.


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htaeD
04/12/23 1:04:10 PM
#303:


I was forceful because I was being accused of stuff in that game

Also I guess I was being travelog-y because the motion of the game seemed set in stone at that point. (towards Ulti that is)

That said I wont complain if I get lynched first
Just dont automatically assume it has to be IGCD tomorrow then

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htaeD
04/12/23 1:32:26 PM
#307:


I can see a logical need for my lynch and part of me does want it to be done sooner than later.
But I did not mean to imply that I prefer to get lynched, of course not.
I just wanted to leave some words in case I do get lynched, now that it seems more than likely to happen.

IGCD is my top choice because he is a void. Some might say he has done nothing negative, but I say he has done nothing positive. For Red and you I can at least say that there were moments that dont gel with you being Peafs and Dumey's partner. For IGCD I just have nothing.

Regardless of who gets lynched, I cannot and could not imagine scum not killing you tonight. Basically I have been delaying my consideration of you for a day that may not come where you are somehow alive at endgame.

Yes its possible you are scum and are trying to set up a final four where town let you win because you look better than whoever is left alive with you.
But I dont think its wise or even right to lynch you over IGCD for that reason.

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htaeD
04/12/23 1:46:58 PM
#308:


Anyway let me answer Plums questions while I am at it.

What exactly happened to Death's suspicion of Corrik? It was me, followed by Corrik and Abacus.


Oh yaknow, the whole Isquen thing happened?
Plus Corrik actually talking did wonders for how I perceived him anyway. But it was mostly him apparently visiting Lea and her not dying that made me reconsider.

I just don't know if I buy this comes from a town Death who previously had suspicions of Corrik. Also why would they same time if you don't believe?


You're jumbling the order of events here, Corrik.
I was skeptical because Corrik did not want to sametime with Isquen about who he saw
Of course now I realize that this was actually a dumb idea since suggesting Corrik should sametime claim his action kinda gives away that he was the one Isquen saw. Also I think I should have used a past tense there instead of making it sound like it was something they still could do.
In any case, me not believing followed the lack of a sametime. Not the other way around. (and again, I was not even right to expect that)

Is town death really posting explanation of why he buys an uncountered cop claim?


There were people who questioned it because Lopen claimed it so early. I merely gave my own experiences to counter that, since I believed Lopen.

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masterplum
04/12/23 1:47:49 PM
#309:


But why is IGCD your top choice? Where is your proof?

It doesn't feel like you have cared at all!

You can't both say "I'm cool being lynched" and "Don't automatically assume it has to be IGCD" those two statements make no sense. If you said absolutely 100% kill IGCD after I flip town then I could kinda see it, but if it isn't IGCD why are you not struggling to, you know, not lose the game if it isn't IGCD

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masterplum
04/12/23 1:50:34 PM
#310:


Lea, come with me and kill Death so that I don't have to spend hours seriously considering if Red is scum. I don't want to do that.

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htaeD
04/12/23 1:52:17 PM
#311:


Lea for the umpteenth time
Lack of proof does not make me think IGCD can only be town.
For the past few days I have read everything about HB and Peaf and that has led me to like you and Red more than IGCD. That is simply the truth!

That said, you are right to say the other thing. I should have worded it differently.
I meant more to say "I think its IGCD as the final scum, but dont take my word as 100 % gospel and also do your own thinking."
But I also should not have been so quick to try and pass the pressure off to others. Its just that my energy is getting low as well.

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htaeD
04/12/23 1:52:52 PM
#312:


Lol I for some reason confused you with Lea, Plum

Sorry about that

Also Lea has already voted me anyway

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IfGodCouldDie
04/12/23 1:54:35 PM
#313:


Deaths attitude right now is sort of bizarre to me, its like he knows I'm town and if he is town should know he is town but he is refusing to make any meaningful push towards Red or Lea.

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masterplum
04/12/23 1:55:54 PM
#314:


htaeD posted...
I meant more to say "I think its IGCD as the final scum, but dont take my word as 100 % gospel and also do your own thinking."

Thinking this and also being defeatist makes absolutely no sense from a town perspective.


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IfGodCouldDie
04/12/23 1:56:26 PM
#316:


Wait, if you think I am final scum why wouldn't you want to push me more as I am openly advocating for my own lynch?

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htaeD
04/12/23 1:56:49 PM
#317:


What? Thats not what I am thinking at all.
Why is it so confusing that I would suspect you the most for being so devoid of town merit?

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htaeD
04/12/23 2:00:02 PM
#318:


Death, when did you shift away from that feeling to being true neutral on IGCD? IGCD actually does have some original content to analyze and it's a bit lazy to just write it off as IGCD impossible to analyze.


Mostly when process of elimination made him the biggest suspect to me.
Though I havent been fond of him ever since he tried to kill me.

And I know IGCD probably posted some things. But as far as I could find, nothing connected him to to HB/Edumey and Peaf in a way that made me think they could not be partners.

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masterplum
04/12/23 2:02:14 PM
#319:


BTW, isquen don't try to get cute if death is town. I think the doomsday scenario is Lea is the last scum and she shoots me and gets away with it. Her only other option is to shoot igcd...

Oh

I wonder if the no kill was testing to see if red really was BP

That actually makes a ton of sense. The no kill didn't really hurt them and they are kind of screwed if it hits final 4

So yeah we kill death, if it isn't death Lea or IGCD dies and its like 95% likely it's the last one. We just don't want both of them alive because they shoot me and you don't see them. That could get dicey

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IfGodCouldDie
04/12/23 2:02:30 PM
#320:


htaeD posted...
Mostly when process of elimination made him the biggest suspect to me.
Though I havent been fond of him ever since he tried to kill me.

And I know IGCD probably posted some things. But as far as I could find, nothing connected him to to HB/Edumey and Peaf in a way that made me think they could not be partners.
Ok, so what have I posted that leads you to believe I have connected myself to them?

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htaeD
04/12/23 2:03:13 PM
#321:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Wait, if you think I am final scum why wouldn't you want to push me more as I am openly advocating for my own lynch?


To be honest I didn't think I would need to push much until recently. That and I dont like to vote early even now. But you are right. I should learn to be more pushy.

##Vote: IGCD

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IfGodCouldDie
04/12/23 2:04:04 PM
#322:


htaeD posted...
To be honest I didn't think I would need to push much until recently. That and I dont like to vote early even now. But you are right. I should learn to be more pushy.

##Vote: IGCD
Ok but you were doing the exact opposite of pushing me until I brought it up.

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htaeD
04/12/23 2:04:20 PM
#323:


IfGodCouldDie posted...

Ok, so what have I posted that leads you to believe I have connected myself to them?


Uh... almost nothing. That is my point.
You voted HB once for less than a page and that was it. If there is anything I missed, then I would need to be pointed at it.

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htaeD
04/12/23 2:05:04 PM
#324:


IfGodCouldDie posted...

Ok but you were doing the exact opposite of pushing me until I brought it up.


I did not intend to. When I called you a void I did not mean it as a good thing!

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IfGodCouldDie
04/12/23 2:06:30 PM
#325:


htaeD posted...
Uh... almost nothing. That is my point.
You voted HB once for less than a page and that was it. If there is anything I missed, then I would need to be pointed at it.
How is that your point? Are you intentionally trying to make your posts as convoluted as possible so that what you mean is as difficult to understand as possible?

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htaeD
04/12/23 2:09:00 PM
#326:


My head is starting to hurt.

IGCD what I am trying to say is..
Lea and Red have connected to HB and Peaf through interactions that make them seem less likely to be on the same team. Like EDumey voting Red right out of the gate or Lea needling Peaf and HB.

You have no such positive connections or interactions that make me think you cannot be scum with those two..

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htaeD
04/12/23 2:14:00 PM
#328:


And I dont care how this gets taken
But if IGCD is shot, then I at least would not be certain the last scum has to be Lea instead of Red.
Scum could also have not shot at all during the night of a nokill to make it look like Red is BP.

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htaeD
04/12/23 2:27:33 PM
#330:


Actually, I did comment on some of those I am pretty sure.
I recall dismissing it at the time because he treated Red and IGCD the same way which did not help me narrow things down any.
(Also I was confused by him saying he could go on Kirby; IGCD. Was he saying he could vote either of them? Or was he saying that he could go on Kirby to IGCD?)

In the end it was more the way EDumey treated Red and the way IGCD did not treat either HB or Peaf that made me like Red more.

I definitely still did miss some of that though, so thats my bad.

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Isquen
04/12/23 2:27:48 PM
#331:


I had a patron ask me for a printout of all of James Patterson's novels and I want to die.

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htaeD
04/12/23 2:28:41 PM
#332:


Though it still does not tell me much. Either Peaf was defending IGCD, or he was trying to pocket him.

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Isquen
04/12/23 2:30:40 PM
#334:


But the thing is, Death, you were one of the two at my "I will hammer." The only thriller worse than a Patterson novel.

##vote: Death
Stop?

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masterplum
04/12/23 2:31:53 PM
#335:


Isn't that just 3?

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htaeD
04/12/23 2:32:34 PM
#336:


Lol yeah
IGCD has his vote on Red
And Red is on IGCD

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Isquen
04/12/23 2:33:03 PM
#337:


Well, shit.

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masterplum
04/12/23 2:33:19 PM
#338:


Death certainly knows the votes well considering he doesn't seem to care about anything else!

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htaeD
04/12/23 2:33:32 PM
#339:


Sorry to ruin your action movie oneliner.

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htaeD
04/12/23 2:33:57 PM
#340:


masterplum posted...
Death certainly knows the votes well considering he doesn't seem to care about anything else!


Call me scum fine
Call me uncaring and thats just rude

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htaeD
04/12/23 2:34:33 PM
#341:


(That said I always care about votals!)

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masterplum
04/12/23 2:35:57 PM
#342:


htaeD posted...
Call me scum fine
Call me uncaring and thats just rude

htaeD posted...
That said I wont complain if I get lynched first


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htaeD
04/12/23 2:37:53 PM
#343:


Once more

That was not me saying I wont care. I just wont complain
That was me saying I can see an upside to it.

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htaeD
04/12/23 2:38:58 PM
#344:


Upside is the wrong word actually..
Benefit?
Tactical advantage?
Something like that.

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IfGodCouldDie
04/12/23 2:39:28 PM
#345:


I guess I'll give Red a chance to check in before we finish day. I really hope you guys are right about Death.

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htaeD
04/12/23 2:40:35 PM
#346:


Meanwhile I hope I am right about you

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IfGodCouldDie
04/12/23 2:43:10 PM
#347:


Problem is if you're not scum we lose.

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htaeD
04/12/23 2:57:20 PM
#348:


I appreciate you not trying to hammer me this time at least!

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ctesjbuvf
04/12/23 3:01:03 PM
#349:


Remember when these had Tekken references?
[3] Death - Lea, Plum, Isquen
[2] IGCD - Red, Death
[1] Red - IGCD

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Day ends 3 hours from now.

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