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Lord_Shadow
04/06/23 12:08:10 PM
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I thought they backed law enforcement

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s0nicfan
04/06/23 12:09:06 PM
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An angry mob calling for someone's death over the death of someone far worse is more of a social media thing than a government thing. That's just Twitter before Twitter.

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Master_Bass
04/06/23 12:09:40 PM
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You'll notice they abandon the blue as soon as they go after someone they like or try to stop riots at the Capitol.

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Chicken
04/06/23 12:12:24 PM
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They think Jesus was white so in this case they would not support law enforcement

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__starsnostars
04/06/23 12:15:42 PM
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It's a myth that republicans are the party of law and order or the party that backs the blue.

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Bishop9800
04/06/23 12:18:45 PM
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__starsnostars posted...
It's a myth that republicans are the party of law and order or the party that backs the blue.


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WBC_Injury
04/06/23 12:18:46 PM
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Sort of off topic but a thought occurred to me today. Why do politicians who run against republicans respond to all the stupid allegations with "uhh no here's why you're wrong (proof and facts and logic chuds wouldn't understand)"

Like say a chud tells me that protecting the LGBT means god is going to strike down everyone and we're going to hell. I would be like "Let it happen then. If your definition of god is correct, let it happen and let us be the fools. Let your god absolve you from any blame and let us die and suffer in the fires you think will come for us. Let it fucking happen"

Knowing that God and Jesus are actually loving and do not hate anything but sin itself, like genuine sin, I can speak all the "blasphemy " I want and not have to worry about anything. I have a feeling I know who Jesus would support. I know what I have to answer to.

More people need to embrace the "Idgaf about your definition of god" philosophy and stop being afraid to speak out. Let the conservatives talk themselves into their own judgement.

The refusing to bring religion or spirituality into debates with conservatives doesn't work as well as people think it does. They only operate on the understanding that everybody but them are going to hell for not listening to them. You nip that out of the way, they have nothing else to fall back on. Show them right then and there that it is bullshit. Embrace the religion argument, not shy away from it.
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Zikten
04/06/23 12:21:36 PM
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Republicans don't blame Rome. Most conservative traditionalist Christians blame the Jews. For most of Christian history, it's always been taught by the church that the Romans were reluctant in killing Jesus and their hands were tied. It was the Jewish people, you see. They forced poor innocent Rome to kill Jesus

What happened was after Rome converted, things got kinda awkward when they were looking at the crucifixion story. So it got retconned to make it that the Jews were to blame for Jesus's death

Forget the fact that it shouldn't even be a bad thing because the whole point of the religion is that Jesus was supposed to die on the cross. Let's just not worry about silly things like logic
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masterpug53
04/06/23 12:25:11 PM
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I miss the halcyon days of peak Daily Show, where we all believed with stars in our eyes that constantly pointing out that Republicans have no standards beyond the double variety would actually guilt them into bettering themselves.

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WBC_Injury
04/06/23 12:28:15 PM
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masterpug53 posted...
I miss the halcyon days of peak Daily Show, where we all believed with stars in our eyes that constantly pointing out that Republicans have no standards beyond the double variety would actually guilt them into bettering themselves.

That's what I'm saying. Democrats and non MAGA conservatives are too afraid to go into the religion argument. They'd rather fall back on science, something conservatives don't understand; or facts, something they'll go "BUT THE BIBLE SAYS ___", etc, etc.

No, the answer is to argue with them head on. Use actual Bible quotes if you have to, more specifically quotes from Jesus himself. 99% of the time when a chud says something bigoted or ethically wrong, whip out their own book. That's the only way.

Bonus points if you explain the difference between the King James bible and other christian bibles.
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NoMeLx22x
04/06/23 12:41:01 PM
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WBC_Injury posted...
Sort of off topic but a thought occurred to me today. Why do politicians who run against republicans respond to all the stupid allegations with "uhh no here's why you're wrong (proof and facts and logic chuds wouldn't understand)"

Like say a chud tells me that protecting the LGBT means god is going to strike down everyone and we're going to hell. I would be like "Let it happen then. If your definition of god is correct, let it happen and let us be the fools. Let your god absolve you from any blame and let us die and suffer in the fires you think will come for us. Let it fucking happen"

Knowing that God and Jesus are actually loving and do not hate anything but sin itself, like genuine sin, I can speak all the "blasphemy " I want and not have to worry about anything. I have a feeling I know who Jesus would support. I know what I have to answer to.

More people need to embrace the "Idgaf about your definition of god" philosophy and stop being afraid to speak out. Let the conservatives talk themselves into their own judgement.

The refusing to bring religion or spirituality into debates with conservatives doesn't work as well as people think it does. They only operate on the understanding that everybody but them are going to hell for not listening to them. You nip that out of the way, they have nothing else to fall back on. Show them right then and there that it is bullshit. Embrace the religion argument, not shy away from it.

Not everybody is religious bro. I'm not gonna get in a debate about religion when I don't know a damn thing about it, and also don't care.

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WBC_Injury
04/06/23 12:42:31 PM
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NoMeLx22x posted...
Not everybody is religious bro. I'm not gonna get in a debate about religion when I don't know a damn thing about it, and also don't care.

I get you. But my point being is that the modus operandi for most conservatives is religion, but the issue itself is their interpretation of their own damn religion is wrong and can be easily refuted as such.

It would help if politicians running opposed to conservatives did the research on that.
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AldousIsDead
04/06/23 12:43:01 PM
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Too busy blaming the Jews for it, probably.

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WBC_Injury
04/06/23 12:44:20 PM
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AldousIsDead posted...
Too busy blaming the Jews for it, probably.

This is the other thing that baffles me.

>"The jews killed Jesus"
>"We support Israel"

Not saying Israel is an ethnostate because it isn't, but most conservatives will tell you that it is anti semitic to criticize Israel's government.

Chuds are just all over the place.
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NicholasCage
04/06/23 12:45:23 PM
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Jesus was without sin and did nothing wrong. Also, Hes literally God.
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NoMeLx22x
04/06/23 12:47:14 PM
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WBC_Injury posted...
I get you. But my point being is that the modus operandi for most conservatives is religion, but the issue itself is their interpretation of their own damn religion is wrong and can be easily refuted as such.

It would help if politicians running opposed to conservatives did the research on that.

I dont disagree with you, but I feel it will just lead into them telling their interpretation and saying that anyone who interprets anything differently is wrong.

I dont think they have the ability to recognize when they might be caught in a hypocritical situation in regards to religion, and instead will just lash out.

They're not gonna take the time to second guess their words and actions.

Idk, I just think it's wishful thinking.

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AldousIsDead
04/06/23 12:47:31 PM
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I mean the Judas heresy is almost as old as the gospels themselves.

Judas is the true savior because if he didn't betray Jesus the whole plan doesn't work.

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NicholasCage
04/06/23 12:48:26 PM
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AldousIsDead posted...
I mean the Judas heresy is almost as old as the gospels themselves.

Judas is the true savior because if he didn't betray Jesus the whole plan doesn't work.


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WBC_Injury
04/06/23 12:50:50 PM
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NoMeLx22x posted...
I dont disagree with you, but I feel it will just lead into them telling their interpretation and saying that anyone who interprets anything differently is wrong.

I dont think they have the ability to recognize when they might be caught in a hypocritical situation in regards to religion, and instead will just lash out.

They're not gonna take the time to second guess their words and actions.

Idk, I just think it's wishful thinking.

The whole idea is to have them talk themselves into the unforgivable sin. You give them biblical context, you quote the bible, they disagree, you say "the bible is wrong?", they say "no you don't understand this", you say "what is the understanding?", "it is this", "does the bible say that", "dkldsdsklsd", "so you're saying you're above the bible? Are you above God?"

If they answer yes, they're going to hell and their supporters all get to see it in realtime. If they answer no, they admit they are wrong and their supporters see that they were lied to.

It's a win win.
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Zikten
04/06/23 12:51:19 PM
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I never understood why Judas is supposed to be hated. The Gospel of Judas makes more sense than the official story
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WBC_Injury
04/06/23 12:52:29 PM
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Wasn't Judas threatened by Pilas who also ended up regretting what he had done
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AldousIsDead
04/06/23 12:52:48 PM
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Zikten posted...
I never understood why Judas is supposed to be hated. The Gospel of Judas makes more sense than the official story
It's certainly more compelling narrative, but that makes sense it was written much later and in a more modern style.

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thronedfire2
04/06/23 1:05:11 PM
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Cause he was Jewish

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DarthWendy
04/06/23 1:10:40 PM
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Legion Lives Matter

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Crimsoness
04/06/23 1:11:50 PM
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Judas hanged himself and returned the silver if I recall so it's likely he did regret it. Personally a repentant Judas finding salvation makes for a more compelling story.

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Gritty
04/06/23 1:13:11 PM
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Crimsoness posted...
Judas hanged himself and returned the silver if I recall so it's likely he did regret it. Personally a repentant Judas finding salvation makes for a more compelling story.

but he couldnt have found salvation if he committed suicide as thats a mortal sin to Christians
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Zikten
04/06/23 1:13:36 PM
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Crimsoness posted...
Judas hanged himself and returned the silver if I recall so it's likely he did regret it. Personally a repentant Judas finding salvation makes for a more compelling story.
In the Gospel of Judas story he doesn't feel sorry because he didn't do anything wrong. I never understood why what Judas did is meant to be evil. Without Judas, the entire religion doesn't work. And Jesus wanted to be on the cross
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brestugo
04/06/23 1:17:16 PM
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Zikten posted...
I never understood why Judas is supposed to be hated. The Gospel of Judas makes more sense than the official story
It just doesn't fit the preferred narrative.

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AldousIsDead
04/06/23 1:20:37 PM
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brestugo posted...
It just doesn't fit the preferred narrative.
It was deemed heresy. It was excised from the narrative.

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brestugo
04/06/23 1:33:38 PM
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AldousIsDead posted...
It was deemed heresy. It was excised from the narrative.
Exactly.

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