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Noumas
04/05/23 9:50:50 AM
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They be peddling their shit and we buy it
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Trumpo
04/05/23 9:51:12 AM
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Mmm hot taki

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Irony
04/05/23 9:51:14 AM
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Taki is pretty hot with them nips

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Pogo_Marimo
04/05/23 9:58:05 AM
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Yeah man, like, totally man.

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St0rmFury
04/05/23 10:00:30 AM
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I mean yeah, Taki is pretty hot.

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Solid_Seb
04/05/23 10:01:26 AM
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Taki is high tier fan service
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Heartomaton
04/05/23 10:07:11 AM
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Not really an apt comparison.

The whole thing about snake oil salesmen was that they would roll into town, con people into buying something that didn't work, and leave before anyone could realize they'd been had.

Pharmaceutical companies sell things that do work, but at an unnecessarily huge markup, and they don't go anywhere afterwards. They just sit there counting your money and calling you a bitch.

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Doom_Art
04/05/23 10:10:00 AM
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I mean the shit pharmaceutical companies sell tends to work, they're just scummy about how they sell it

Snake oil stuff doesn't work

So it's not really a good conparison lol

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divot1338
04/05/23 10:11:47 AM
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Ask your doctor if <drug> is right for you?

Really? How about we let the doctor tell me?

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Doom_Art
04/05/23 10:13:00 AM
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divot1338 posted...
Ask your director if <drug> is right for you?

Really? How about we let the doctor tell me?
In fairness the doctor might honestly not know about it, especially if it's a newer drug

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divot1338
04/05/23 10:16:27 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
In fairness the doctor might honestly not know about it, especially if it's a newer drug
Perhaps but non doctors shouldnt be diagnosing themselves. Especially based on a 30 second bullshit pharma commercial.

Besides I thought pharmaceutical reps would make that largely impossible.

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itachi15243
04/05/23 10:16:47 AM
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I need my medicine to live though

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the_rowan
04/05/23 10:23:42 AM
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They're a mixed bag. For all the shady shit they do for profit--advertising drugs as consumer items, abusing patents for effective monopoly prices on mandatory items, coordinated price fixing, the rare stories about pushing unsafe products--they are still able to bring together a shitton of money to use for researching new treatments, far more than our inept government ever would (as the only science funding that doesn't constantly get cut is for the military). The entire world does eventually benefit from big pharma's R&D. It's just a shitty process to get there.

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Pogo_Marimo
04/05/23 2:52:36 PM
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divot1338 posted...
Perhaps but non doctors shouldnt be diagnosing themselves. Especially based on a 30 second bullshit pharma commercial.

Besides I thought pharmaceutical reps would make that largely impossible.
The commercials are made for people who already have a diagnoses. Which is why they specifically use the diagnoses when talking about the drug. ""If you suffer from Crohn's Disease, please contact your doctor to see if blah blah blah is a good fit for you."

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WingsOfGood
04/05/23 2:57:53 PM
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there is actually often generics that work as well if not better that are legally not allowed to come to market because the government is in bed with the profits of these corps
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HANGtheDJ_86
04/05/23 3:01:21 PM
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If psylocybin can temporarily cure colour blindness anything is possible

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voldothegr8
04/05/23 3:03:57 PM
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https://gfycat.com/darkalarmingbluet

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divot1338
04/05/23 3:11:38 PM
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Pogo_Marimo posted...
The commercials are made for people who already have a diagnoses. Which is why they specifically use the diagnoses when talking about the drug. ""If you suffer from Crohn's Disease, please contact your doctor to see if blah blah blah is a good fit for you."
After they distract you with scenes of a relaxing couples mudbath. Or an afternoon spent painting a mural with other members of the community.

*scoff*

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CARRRNE_ASADA
04/05/23 3:15:46 PM
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Theres a lot of reason to hate pharma, but most drugs are life saving for a lot of people. I do think there's an over dependance in some cases where dr's will just keep you on meds forever for stuff that can also be treatable with more natural remedies and diet.

Some people wouldnt be functional in society (keep a job, relationships, just live) without mood regulators. But also for mild anxiety you can try pills, but could taper off little by little by doing holistic approaches of therapy, diet, meditation. At the same time the pills is what helps people get on their feet and have the will to try that.

Now another matter is side effects. If youre going to be on a for life treatment of meds from an early age, its possible some of your organs like kidneys might not take kindly to them. Statins and some beta blockers will wreak havoc on these little by little. Suppossedly there are products that can help you with these.

All in all meds are the reason life expectancy has increased so much. At the same time not everything that glitters is gold and cant always trust the dr when they want to treat little things quickly with meds. Drs only know how to prescribe and just a few will tell you about lifestyle changes, cause they cant spend more than 10-15 minutes with you (cause health insurance)

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Questionmarktarius
04/05/23 3:18:12 PM
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It's all a scam, from top to bottom.

  1. you have to pay a doctor, to give you permission to get some-odd drug.
  2. you then have to go to a completely different place to get the drug, after you get permission.
  3. you expect someone else to pay for that drug, who may or may not refuse to do so.
  4. if you have to pay for it yourself, the price you pay is four or five times what that someone else would have paid.
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Stagmar
04/05/23 10:17:38 PM
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Pogo_Marimo posted...
The commercials are made for people who already have a diagnoses. Which is why they specifically use the diagnoses when talking about the drug. ""If you suffer from Crohn's Disease, please contact your doctor to see if blah blah blah is a good fit for you."
Interesting. They dont mention the diagnosis in ads here. An example is a scene with a bus sitting at a bus stop without its driver. The passengers are looking around confused and annoyed. Voice over: Ask your doctor if <drug name> is right for you. Or a woman in a bathrobe is singing in front of her mirror with a hairbrush as a mic You are more than your condition! <drug name>! Narrator: Ask your doctor if <drug name> is right for you.

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hockeybub89
04/05/23 10:19:02 PM
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Snake oil doesn't work though

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Despised
04/05/23 10:20:02 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/5/7/AAe2uzAAEWv9.jpg

these are my fav

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hockeybub89
04/05/23 10:23:08 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
It's all a scam, from top to bottom.

1. you have to pay a doctor, to give you permission to get some-odd drug.
2. you then have to go to a completely different place to get the drug, after you get permission.
3. you expect someone else to pay for that drug, who may or may not refuse to do so.
4. if you have to pay for it yourself, the price you pay is four or five times what that someone else would have paid.
You would have been better off just keeping 1 and 2 to your fucking self. Shut the fuck up.

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noisetank
04/06/23 2:55:49 AM
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hot cheetos n takis

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Nukazie
04/06/23 2:56:58 AM
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Irony posted...
Taki is pretty hot with them nips


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NicholasCage
04/06/23 3:22:57 AM
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Woody Harrelson agrees.
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TheWizardOfOrz
04/06/23 3:29:47 AM
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Well no since medicines actually do things. But if you just meant they are profit driven that's true. Although drug research is expensive. Although CEOs get paid way too damn much.

So in summary drug companies aren't bad in theory but the ones we currently have are run by some real greedy bastards
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Noumas
04/09/23 3:21:44 AM
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Yes but can a pharma company ever be ethical?
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Ryvell
04/09/23 3:24:00 AM
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"Snake oil salesmen" sold useless products that didn't do what they claimed to do. Pharmaceutical companies may be morally corrupt crooks, but the products they sell do work.
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hockeybub89
04/09/23 3:31:22 AM
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Noumas posted...
Yes but can a pharma company ever be ethical?
The answer to that question does not change the fact that the drugs are good and necessary, and therefore not snake oil.

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Arcanine2009
04/09/23 3:55:23 AM
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They put hundreds and millions of dollars of research and clinical trials for each of their drug product over many years. Definitely not snake oil. And it's pretty regulated.

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HOON
04/09/23 4:16:46 AM
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side effects may include
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divot1338
04/09/23 4:00:47 PM
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Ryvell posted...
"Snake oil salesmen" sold useless products that didn't do what they claimed to do. Pharmaceutical companies may be morally corrupt crooks, but the products they sell do work.
Snake oil is a term used to describe deceptive marketing, health care fraud, or a scam.

Selling cheap shit to people who dont need it is classic snake oil salesman.

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hockeybub89
04/09/23 4:07:16 PM
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divot1338 posted...
Snake oil is a term used to describe deceptive marketing, health care fraud, or a scam.

Selling cheap shit to people who dont need it is classic snake oil salesman.
So still not medications. Overcharging people for necessary healthcare and doing patent shenanigans is not snake oil.

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whateveroh
04/09/23 4:11:00 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
So still not medications. Overcharging people for necessary healthcare and doing patent shenanigans is not snake oil.

But prescribing them bullshit they don't need is.

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the_rowan
04/09/23 8:55:59 PM
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whateveroh posted...
But prescribing them bullshit they don't need is.

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, clearly.
The pharmaceutical industry has no authority to prescribe anything. And doctors don't prescribe medications people don't need, except in a few circumstances: The patient misrepresents their symptoms; the doctor cannot tell for certain if the patient needs a medication, but the harm done by not using it if needed is greater than the harm done by using it if not needed (such as preventative medicine or antibiotics to ward off potential infection); or the doctor is getting a kickback for prescribing, which is rare, illegal, and taken extremely seriously by the DEA.

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whateveroh
04/09/23 9:23:48 PM
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the_rowan posted...
The pharmaceutical industry has no authority to prescribe anything.

I never said they did.

Maybe I should've clarified that I meant doctors.

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divot1338
04/10/23 7:25:28 AM
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Man this restless leg of mine is really bothering me.

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hockeybub89
04/10/23 7:43:16 AM
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whateveroh posted...
But prescribing them bullshit they don't need is.
Man, so many people really need to consider not sharing their opinions anymore.

This doesn't fucking happen with any kind of regularity, definitely not in the sense of "You have nothing wrong with you, but I'm gonna manipulate you into taking medicine because <reason>". Obviously, there are times when a prescription doesn't work and needs to be changed or adjusted.

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manhookcardoor
04/10/23 8:45:04 AM
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Antibiotics work.

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