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TodorokiHayato
04/03/23 1:05:22 PM
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Goku can just teleport and get kryptonite, therefore Goku > Super Man
Not to mention infinite revival through dragon balls.
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Supersex420
04/03/23 1:07:05 PM
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the latter has already peaked with Omni

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A_Good_Boy
04/03/23 1:07:51 PM
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Goku's first move is never going to be exploiting a weakness. He'll stand up to Clark and get his ass beat long before he attempts to think up a strategy.

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rideshort
04/03/23 1:08:44 PM
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No.

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Tyranthraxus
04/03/23 1:10:22 PM
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TodorokiHayato posted...
Not to mention infinite revival through dragon balls.

I have some bad news for you regarding the deaths of western comics superheroes.

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Prestoff
04/03/23 1:10:34 PM
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Which version of Superman, because that can make a very HUGE difference.

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Doe
04/03/23 1:11:50 PM
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Its a worthless conversation because people will just point to some wacky 60s comic where Superman tied the galaxy to a steel chain and lugged it across the universe or something like that as his "feats"

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rideshort
04/03/23 1:13:58 PM
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TodorokiHayato posted...
Goku can just teleport and get kryptonite, therefore Goku > Super Man
Not to mention infinite revival through dragon balls.

How does Goku know about Kryptonite? Can't get something he doesn't know about. And let's say if he did, how will he know where to find it? Don't forget that for his teleportation to work, he has to sense Ki signatures to take him to that spot (particularly high ones). If he's in Superman universe, Ki isn't a thing. Lastly if Goku gets revived by the Dragonballs, that implies Superman killed him and therefore loses.

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Ivynn
04/03/23 1:19:49 PM
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Prestoff posted...
Which version of Superman, because that can make a very HUGE difference.

Yeah he couldn't win against Silver Age "made up new powers on the spot" Superman.

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Doe
04/03/23 1:21:27 PM
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rideshort posted...
Ki isn't a thing
So if it's Goku's universe the photonucleic effect doesn't exist? Lol

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Ivynn
04/03/23 1:24:10 PM
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Pretty sure the DC Universe has its own version of ki.

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TodorokiHayato
04/03/23 1:24:57 PM
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rideshort posted...
How does Goku know about Kryptonite? Can't get something he doesn't know about. And let's say if he did, how will he know where to find it? Don't forget that for his teleportation to work, he has to sense Ki signatures to take him to that spot (particularly high ones). If he's in Superman universe, Ki isn't a thing. Lastly if Goku gets revived by the Dragonballs, that implies Superman killed him and therefore loses.
I'm going to assume that Bulma invents a technology where the two universes become congruent with each other. By that logic, Ki will exist in both universes. Idk guys...Goku with master ultra instinct is pretty OP.
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Supersex420
04/03/23 1:25:52 PM
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In DBS there is a guy who loves superheroes and makes robots. Eventually he will make Superman, I think that is kinda the endgame for that but I don't actually know anything about it.

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Prismsblade
04/03/23 1:28:16 PM
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Prestoff posted...
Which version of Superman, because that can make a very HUGE difference.
Likely whichever one you see when you pick up and read a issue of superman or action comics that takes place in the main/prime universe.

Idk why this is still so confusing to people. If you don't read or care for the storys then just stay out of its conversations.

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Zikten
04/03/23 1:29:29 PM
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goku would never use kryptonite. He insists on fighting his opponents at their full power
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rideshort
04/03/23 1:31:14 PM
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Doe posted...
So if it's Goku's universe the photonucleic effect doesn't exist? Lol

I'm just following what we know of the story. I didn't establish it.

Ivynn posted...
Pretty sure the DC Universe has its own version of ki.

You're probably right. If anything. I've not come across in this in DC comics yet. But I wouldn't be surprised that it exists.

TodorokiHayato posted...
I'm going to assume that Bulma invents a technology where the two universes become congruent with each other. By that logic, Ki will exist in both universes. Idk guys...Goku with master ultra instinct is pretty OP.

Then for the sake of that sure. It's just this topic has been debated for decades and I'll admit this, there are some versions of Superman Goku can beat. But Supes at his best? With all the feats he has, I just don't see it. Even with Goku with God-like energy and Ultra Instinct.

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TodorokiHayato
04/03/23 1:31:52 PM
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Also, don't Saiyans become stronger when they're matched with a comparable/stronger foe? By fighting Super Man, Goku might evolve into higher form of Ultra instinct. Super Man's powers are capped.
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A_Good_Boy
04/03/23 1:33:10 PM
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TodorokiHayato posted...
Also, don't Saiyans become stronger when they're matched with a comparable/stronger foe? By fighting Super Man, Goku might evolve into higher form of Ultra instinct. Super Man's powers are capped.
He has to be able to heal from his injuries first.

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Zikten
04/03/23 1:33:49 PM
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Superman does have one way to gain power. He can swim in the sun and it charges him up beyond his normal max power
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Murphiroth
04/03/23 1:35:05 PM
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TodorokiHayato posted...
Goku can just teleport and get kryptonite, therefore Goku > Super Man
Not to mention infinite revival through dragon balls.

Fascinating that you admit that Goku has to act out of character and weaken Superman to win.
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Tyranthraxus
04/03/23 1:37:38 PM
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Zikten posted...
Superman does have one way to gain power. He can swim in the sun and it charges him up beyond his normal max power

He's got more than that. Blue sunlight gives him stronger/new powers.

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Murphiroth
04/03/23 1:39:53 PM
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TodorokiHayato posted...
Super Man's powers are capped.

Are they though?
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TodorokiHayato
04/03/23 1:41:54 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
He has to be able to heal from his injuries first.
Simple solution: Senzu beans

teleport to a safe space, take senzu and heal, and teleport back.
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Gobstoppers12
04/03/23 1:42:19 PM
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Doe posted...
Its a worthless conversation because people will just point to some wacky 60s comic where Superman tied the galaxy to a steel chain and lugged it across the universe or something like that as his "feats"
Early Superman had some fucking looney tunes-ass feats. He once sneezed and destroyed a solar system. Not to mention flew so fast that he traveled from earth to another solar system in the time it took him to finish a sneeze.


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TodorokiHayato
04/03/23 1:42:52 PM
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Murphiroth posted...
Are they though?
Aren't his powers limited in the sense that his new abilities/power is capped to the Sun?
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rideshort
04/03/23 1:49:01 PM
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TodorokiHayato posted...
Aren't his powers limited in the sense that his new abilities/power is capped to the Sun?

Not really. As long as he has exposure to a yellow/blue sun, as we know now there is no cap. He just keeps getting stronger.

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A_Good_Boy
04/03/23 1:50:23 PM
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TodorokiHayato posted...
Simple solution: Senzu beans

teleport to a safe space, take senzu and heal, and teleport back.
He'd never do that to tag himself in and out of combat.

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Ratchetrockon
04/03/23 1:51:36 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/8/8/AAZsuhAAEWRM.jpg

bros is this true? why does it seem like battle forum people always hype their fave characters as hyperveral/outerversal/ boundless???????????

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Tyranthraxus
04/03/23 1:51:53 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
He'd never do that to tag himself in and out of combat.

Yeah. If we're going full OOC mode Goku has no chance. Superman will just fling the whole planet into the sun.

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Tyranthraxus
04/03/23 1:52:43 PM
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Ratchetrockon posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/8/8/AAZsuhAAEWRM.jpg

bros is this true? why does it seem like battle forum people hype their fave characters are hyperveral/outerversal/ boundless???????????

If you want to use Xeno Goku then I get to use Cosmic Armor Superman.

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Ratchetrockon
04/03/23 1:53:51 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
If you want to use Xeno Goku then I get to use Cosmic Armor Superman.

dude people say

dante from DMC is 11th dimensional. i just want to know why a bunch of characters are wanked super hard these days

like id put dante as city level at best tbh

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Murphiroth
04/03/23 1:54:30 PM
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TodorokiHayato posted...
Simple solution: Senzu beans

teleport to a safe space, take senzu and heal, and teleport back.

Sounds OOC.
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A_Good_Boy
04/03/23 1:55:16 PM
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Wtf is Xeno Goku?

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Ratchetrockon
04/03/23 1:56:35 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
Wtf is Xeno Goku?

dragonball heroes goku


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kage_53
04/03/23 1:56:49 PM
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Goku gets rekt by Superman silver age. Superman could literally sneeze and it would kill Goku. Supermans sneeze destroyed an entire solar system and Goku cant breathe in space.
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Tyranthraxus
04/03/23 1:56:54 PM
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Ratchetrockon posted...
dude people say

dante from DMC is 11th dimensional. i just want to know why a bunch of characters are wanked super hard these days

like id put dante as city level at best tbh

Xeno Goku's power isn't being wanked but it's fanfic territory. It's like if I made a video game and in it Superman punches your computer so hard it deletes system32 and then used that as if it was a normal Superman thing to do.

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Tyranthraxus
04/03/23 1:57:10 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
Wtf is Xeno Goku?
Goku from Xenoverse

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Beveren_Rabbit
04/03/23 1:57:41 PM
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when has Goku ever done anything cunning or exploited a weakness in a fight?

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Ratchetrockon
04/03/23 1:59:00 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Xeno Goku's power isn't being wanked but it's fanfic territory. It's like if I made a video game and in it Superman punches your computer so hard it deletes system32 and then used that as if it was a normal Superman thing to do.

ahh ok. i haven't been following db heroes all that well tbh.

anyways yeah some characters are wanked hard like dante and some isekai characters (mainly because people are using fan translations aided by machine translation which is really inaccurate based on my comparisons of official English light novels and fan translations).

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LightHawKnight
04/03/23 1:59:03 PM
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If fighting fairly and unlimited attempts, since Superman wont kill, or really maim Goku, Goku could just get his ass handed to him over and over and over again till he is strong enough to win.

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A_Good_Boy
04/03/23 2:00:46 PM
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Ratchetrockon posted...
dragonball heroes goku
Literally not even canon lol

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rideshort
04/03/23 2:00:53 PM
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Beveren_Rabbit posted...
when has Goku ever done anything cunning or exploited a weakness in a fight?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC-Q6JtJt-Q

Start at 10:50.

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Beveren_Rabbit
04/03/23 2:00:56 PM
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Superman is buleltproof. Goku isn't.

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Murphiroth
04/03/23 2:01:07 PM
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LightHawKnight posted...
If fighting fairly and unlimited attempts, since Superman wont kill, or really maim Goku, Goku could just get his ass handed to him over and over and over again till he is strong enough to win.

Goku isn't really going to kill or maim Supes either since they're not enemies.

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LightHawKnight
04/03/23 2:02:43 PM
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Murphiroth posted...
Goku isn't really going to kill or maim Supes either since they're not enemies.

Never said he was going to kill or maim Superman, hell Goku rarely kills his enemies unless they are really world threatening anyways.

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Ratchetrockon
04/03/23 2:03:01 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
Literally not even canon lol


i usually assume people are using composite versions of each character

but i mainly wanted to know if xeno goku is wanked or not. if any of his feats are from some machine translations im disregarding it

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Tyranthraxus
04/03/23 2:06:17 PM
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Ratchetrockon posted...
i usually assume people are using composite versions of each character

but i mainly wanted to know if xeno goku is wanked or not. if any of his feats are from some machine translations im disregarding it

Here's a more in depth look at how fucking nuts Dragonball heroes can get

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrRAJ_AvomE

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Gobstoppers12
04/03/23 2:06:54 PM
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Beveren_Rabbit posted...
Superman is buleltproof. Goku isn't.
Goku was bullet proof as a child. He was shot in the head more than one time without significant harm, in fact.

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Ratchetrockon
04/03/23 2:08:59 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Here's a more in depth look at how fucking nuts Dragonball heroes can get

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrRAJ_AvomE

damn i didn't know Deathbattle had already delved into alternate versions of the DB characters. Thanks for sharing this

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