Board 8 > Tekken Mafia Topic 1 - Choose Your Character

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htaeD
03/30/23 1:39:03 PM
#351:


Also I see Plum answered the question in the most safe way possible

Why was Sbells attack on Ulti bad? It sounded fair to me.

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Lopen
03/30/23 1:40:50 PM
#352:


Hbthebattle posted...
Lea has seen a thousand TOWN players panic under pressure of votes, because she's played games with BCT in them

Wouldn't that be one player, not a thousand?

Also I've played games with BCT in them, as have most of the players in this game

Citing this as a uniquely Lea trait is strange.

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htaeD
03/30/23 1:41:39 PM
#353:


Honestly I find Peaf saying that Wallz is the scummiest player out of everyone to be dramatic. At least based on Wallz own content

Peaf do you have any other reads so far?

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Hbthebattle
03/30/23 1:42:14 PM
#354:


Lopen posted...
Wouldn't that be one player, not a thousand?

bct is not the only player who reacts like this and you know that, it was just an example.

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Lopen
03/30/23 1:43:36 PM
#355:


And I know that?

But didn't you just say Lea was ok for training onto Wall for that reason and I am not? I thought I didn't know that!

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Peace___Frog
03/30/23 1:44:55 PM
#356:


Fairly confident that igcd and red are both town. Lean town on both lea and corrik.

Sbell is a lean scum but that might be because I'm boneheaded with the idea that Ulti put in my brain. Even though that misreading has been debunked it still made me feel something, yknow?

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Hbthebattle
03/30/23 1:45:07 PM
#357:


Lopen posted...
And I know that?

But didn't you just say Lea was ok for training onto Wall for that reason and I am not? I thought I didn't know that!
you didn't give a reason at all! Lea explicitly said Wall's reaction to pressure was her reason!

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Hbthebattle
03/30/23 1:45:38 PM
#358:


So there, Lopen: What is your reason for being on Wall?

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Lopen
03/30/23 1:45:51 PM
#359:


I gave a reason to suspect Wall before Lea did!

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htaeD
03/30/23 1:46:32 PM
#360:


I get most of those

But you're gonna have to use more words to explain that Corrik read
Because he used almost none!

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Hbthebattle
03/30/23 1:46:51 PM
#361:


"I think he could be scum with Ulti" is not a reason. It's a justification! What exactly are your thoughts on Wall for you to think him so likely to be scum?

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Peace___Frog
03/30/23 1:47:09 PM
#362:


I already did! Let me find it for crying out loud...

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wallmasterz
03/30/23 1:47:11 PM
#363:


Lea, Im sorry for not getting to you yet, work has been a shit show. I will provide updated thoughts on people when I can.

Do you truly, sincerely feel like you're going to be mislynched for one or two posts? You said you were a little paranoid of Peaf, are you going to roll over and accept death because someone you don't even know is town voted you?

No, I dont think Im going to be lynched. When I said Im marked for death it was tongue in cheek. I should probably slow down the sarcasm since its not translating well. I welcome suspicion and scrutiny but when Peaf said I was even more scummy for trying to get on his good side when I was joking, I just shrugged my shoulders and shook my head. I was calling out how inorganic it felt for him to preface his answer to how many scum he thinks there are with Well, its not like I have any information on this or anything, but

In hindsight I guess I see where anyone who didnt realize I was joking couldve seen that as rolling over and accepting doom but it was more so apathy. I didnt want to be a jerk in responding to Peaf as I was initially tempted to be nor did I think clarifying that was really all that necessary? I guess I overrated how obvious my sarcasm was. If I could go back Id just be like Peaf, why do you feel the need to start your answer to the question by saying you have no info about how many people are on the scum team?

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Lopen
03/30/23 1:47:20 PM
#364:


Lopen posted...
Wallz ulti being paired I could believe citing the exhibit A "fake as fuck comment" presented by party Peaf


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masterplum
03/30/23 1:47:54 PM
#365:


htaeD posted...
Also I see Plum answered the question in the most safe way possible

Why was Sbells attack on Ulti bad? It sounded fair to me.

It had no basis in fact

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Obellisk
03/30/23 1:50:23 PM
#366:


Peace___Frog posted...
Sbell is a lean scum but that might be because I'm boneheaded with the idea that Ulti put in my brain. Even though that misreading has been debunked it still made me feel something, yknow?

gotta say Peaf, i don't like it.

Forget its about me, but i feel like the shade thrown my direction was all based on a faulty premise or strictly based on past game role distribution.

The fact that you still lean scum without adding any differing evidence falls into a place of "Still wanna fall back on that mislynch later" before it hits the "boneheaded town" category, ya know?

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htaeD
03/30/23 1:51:06 PM
#368:


Are we talking about the same post, Plum?

this is a gross mischaracterization of how things progressed. YOU are in fact the one who highlighted game design based on my mistyping.

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Obellisk
03/30/23 1:51:16 PM
#369:


masterplum posted...
It had no basis in fact

your LOUD WRONG was in direct relation to my response to Ulti where he accused me, peaf and death of arguing game setup.

What hole are you trying to climb out of here exactly?

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Lopen
03/30/23 1:52:43 PM
#372:


wallmasterz posted...
I agree with ulti feeling different this game. The only two times Ive played with him he was town cleared almost immediately for claiming bulletproof doctor and alluding to being dayvig, but it seems very possible hes scum. I suppose he could be a town role he doesnt want to draw attention to but I still think wed see a little more of recent town ultis happy swag in that case.


Peace___Frog posted...
You think this is Ulti not drawing attention to himself? Nah. That's a fake as fuck comment.


To elaborate more

It feels like Wallz's justification of Ulti being scum doesn't match with Ulti's actual actions this game. He is actually doing exactly what Wallz is saying he's not doing, he is drawing attention to himself

I feel it them being paired is likely because I don't think scum Wallz says that about town Ulti. This feels like knowing the conclusion and faking the reasoning.

(I don't think town Wallz says this at all because the reasoning is fake)

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Peace___Frog
03/30/23 1:53:09 PM
#373:


Peace___Frog posted...
I interpreted the corrik post as disinterested, burned out corrik from xb3.
This is the post i had in mind.
Corrik got absolutely clobbered that game and ended it with a "gg guys :)" and completely peaced out. He didn't put in much effort that game (completely different from other town games he was in), and this is his first game since then, right?

So far his vibes here felt similar to that game, and as his latest game I'm weighting it more heavily than his games prior.

This isn't excusing him for future bad takes or posts. Just my current read at the current time. I'm not interested in defending corrik and if other players see something scummy (or don't see something towny) then they should obviously turn the heat up on him. I'm not the boss here.

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Lopen
03/30/23 1:54:22 PM
#374:


UltimaterializerX posted...
Lopen please use other punctuation to make life easier on the host.

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masterplum
03/30/23 1:54:24 PM
#375:


htaeD posted...
Are we talking about the same post, Plum?

Yes, it completely matches what town ulti did when I was scum with him.

Which is be completely inconsistent

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Hbthebattle
03/30/23 1:55:30 PM
#376:


Lopen posted...
(I don't think town Wallz says this at all because the reasoning is fake)
Yeah see, this is the part I want to dispute. There's a clear difference here - Ulti before was bringing a lot of attention to his role, but this time it's been mostly about his flavor. That is unique for someone like Ulti who loves claiming he has an ultra-super-special role all the time.

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Obellisk
03/30/23 1:56:44 PM
#377:


Hbthebattle posted...
Ulti who loves claiming he has an ultra-super-special role all the time

side note. When Ulti is town and he claims his super special role unprompted and way early, Town loses.

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Lopen
03/30/23 1:56:57 PM
#378:


Hbthebattle posted...
There's a clear difference here - Ulti before was bringing a lot of attention to his role, but this time it's been mostly about his flavor. That is unique for someone like Ulti who loves claiming he has an ultra-super-special role all the time.

You're making a point wallz himself isn't making and one that is also wrong.

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Peace___Frog
03/30/23 1:57:09 PM
#380:


Obellisk posted...
gotta say Peaf, i don't like it.

Forget its about me, but i feel like the shade thrown my direction was all based on a faulty premise or strictly based on past game role distribution.

The fact that you still lean scum without adding any differing evidence falls into a place of "Still wanna fall back on that mislynch later" before it hits the "boneheaded town" category, ya know?
That's fair. No, i don't have evidence and I'm not going to try to create any out of thin air. It's just an impression at the current moment.

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htaeD
03/30/23 1:57:56 PM
#381:


The Ulti part of that sentence is not what I take issue with but the Sbell part.
If someone is being inconsistent, you want to attack (rather correct) them even if they are consistently inconsistent!

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Obellisk
03/30/23 1:58:35 PM
#383:


Peace___Frog posted...
That's fair. No, i don't have evidence and I'm not going to try to create any out of thin air. It's just an impression at the current moment.

i'll let it go for now.

But i did move you into the "Scum?" category with Plum. its not the dreaded "SCUM!" category, so don't get to worried yet.

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htaeD
03/30/23 1:58:41 PM
#384:


Obellisk posted...


side note. When Ulti is town and he claims his super special role unprompted and way early, Town loses.


You say that and yet you fell for it twice.

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htaeD
03/30/23 2:00:12 PM
#387:


2 and a half is what I would say.

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Obellisk
03/30/23 2:00:24 PM
#388:


htaeD posted...
You say that and yet you fell for it twice.

I was picturing the Star Trek Game ( i hosted) and the DayVig Game ( i scum). So i didn't fall for it at all.

Whichgames are you thinking of?

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htaeD
03/30/23 2:01:38 PM
#390:


Obellisk posted...


I was picturing the Star Trek Game ( i hosted) and the DayVig Game ( i scum). So i didn't fall for it at all.

Whichgames are you thinking of?


Oh right
was confusing it with Mario Mafia lol

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Obellisk
03/30/23 2:02:52 PM
#391:


htaeD posted...
was confusing it with Mario Mafia lol

Alas, lea blew me too early.

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Obellisk
03/30/23 2:03:02 PM
#392:


AWAY!

BLEW ME AWAY!

jesus...

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Kirby321
03/30/23 2:03:37 PM
#393:


Peace___Frog posted...
Fairly confident that igcd and red are both town. Lean town on both lea and corrik.

Corrik has a grand total of two posts, one of which was a completely unexplained vote on Lea, and you're leaning town on him?

I'm amazed you can have any stance at all on Corrik with how little content he's given us thus far. And that's normal for Corrik regardless of alignment.

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htaeD
03/30/23 2:03:51 PM
#394:


Though I would argue that town didn't lose ST Mafia because of Ulti claiming early
So if there is a lesson to be learned by Ulti, he might not have needed to yet.

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Lopen
03/30/23 2:04:02 PM
#395:


I lean town on Corrik for the record too btw

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htaeD
03/30/23 2:05:14 PM
#399:


Obellisk posted...


Alas, lea blew me too early.


*insert spanish guy laughing meme here*

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Lopen
03/30/23 2:05:42 PM
#400:


UltimaterializerX posted...
Didnt you just say you wanted to lynch him for afking?

If he plays like he did last game as town afking we'd be doing us a favor

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