Current Events > Wait, do Star Trek fans actually hate Keiko? >_>

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Kim_Seong-a
03/29/23 5:36:47 PM
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Been noticing a lot of discourse around Miles OBrien involves trashing his wife.

She always came across as quite loving and thoughtful to me <_&

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Turbam
03/29/23 5:37:12 PM
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Fuck Keiko

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DKBananaSlamma
03/29/23 5:39:00 PM
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idk anything about Star Trek but I'd fuck her >_>

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garan
03/29/23 5:39:00 PM
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I only saw her few appearances on TNG, and I thought she was fine. Was she annoying on DS9?
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ROBANN_88
03/29/23 5:43:30 PM
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i've been watching Deep Space 9 over the last few months

i don't see any reason why anyone would hate her.
she's about as fine as any other "gets 10 minutes of screen time every 4 seasons" character

only major issue i can think of is her entire identity is just "O'Briens wife"

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catfan2008
03/29/23 5:45:13 PM
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Same reason chuds hated Skylar
'she was mean to her husband and ruined his life'


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Foppe
03/29/23 5:48:39 PM
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She appears out of nowhere and is suddenly marrying a beloved character.
We know pretty much nothing about her. She nearly calls off the wedding out of nowhere and snaps at Miles. As a first impression of the character, a first appearance, shes cast in an unlikable and unflattering light.
For the most part, she exists in the show only in the context of being the Chiefs wife, aside from passing comments about her tending the arboretum, and often theyre bickering. In much of her and Chief OBriens interactions in both TNG and DS9 (but especially DS9), shes written as snippy, demanding, complain-y. Two examples of this: in DS9, she was vocally opposed to the Chiefs being stationed there; and in Fascination she acted quite hostile toward our beloved Chief during the Gratitude Festival, out of absolutely nowhere. On screen, they seldom have good chemistry together.
She is presented as an unsympathetic character, complaining to, and bickering with, the friendly OBrien. This unfair characterization is aimless, especially in light of the episodes where she is a strong character, defending her classes from Kai Wynns religious censorship, defending the Cardassian orphan Rugal from Miles racially insensitive comments, fighting to prove Miles was innocent in an unfair Cardassian trial, helping him heal after seasons of Miles Must Suffer pain (like being stuck in the mind prison or enduring Cardassian dental horror.)
Regardless of these, the negative characteristics have an outsized influence. If the writers unintentionally kept writing this one character into unsympathetic positions, its maybe because everyone else chose to be there and shes the only person whos there out of spousal obligation. Shes not a defined bad character, not a cartoonish supervillain, or an obstacle to other characters attaining their goals, and yet these negative characterizations pop up frequently.
Its easy to look at a character and make a quick value judgment. Its even easier to yell online about it.
But in the case of Keiko OBrien, she gets some hate among Star Trek fans thats unwarranted, and its due to the unfair writing of her character.

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TMOG
03/29/23 5:52:50 PM
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Sci-fi nerds hate female character, news at 11
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ROBANN_88
03/29/23 5:57:43 PM
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Foppe posted...
and in Fascination she acted quite hostile toward our beloved Chief during the Gratitude Festival, out of absolutely nowhere.

to be fair to her that was during when the Betazoi Lwaxana had that "all emotions go haywire" thing.
everyone was acting either hostile or horny, to ridiculous degree

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Foppe
03/29/23 6:07:44 PM
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Nobody remembers that.

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pegusus123456
03/30/23 11:28:42 PM
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I've never heard of anyone hating her. She's just so rarely in focus, I don't see why anyone would.

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ROBANN_88
03/31/23 1:55:23 PM
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while we're on about character opinions

i just started the last season of DS9. what's the general consensus on the new Dax?

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Axiom
03/31/23 1:56:33 PM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
while we're on about character opinions

i just started the last season of DS9. what's the general consensus on the new Dax?
All Daxs are terrible. Character should've just died with Jadzia and left it at that
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McMarbles
03/31/23 2:02:41 PM
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She got in the way of O'Brashir shippers.

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Doe
03/31/23 2:05:10 PM
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I've never heard this.

Foppe posted...
She appears out of nowhere and is suddenly marrying a beloved character.
he was small potatoes in most of tng

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pegusus123456
03/31/23 7:52:05 PM
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McMarbles posted...
She got in the way of O'Brashir shippers.
Keiko wouldn't stand in the way of that, this would be her.

https://i.imgur.com/BOfnCXQ.jpg

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Smiffwilm
03/31/23 7:54:32 PM
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Turbam posted...
Fuck Keiko
A thought that crosses Miles' mind often I'm sure, one way or another.

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VampireCoyote
03/31/23 7:55:23 PM
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I like her

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