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MAR10_KarT 03/27/23 7:59:55 PM #1: |
There are so many things illegal that management of restaurants do, but no one dares to stand up for themselves --- Its a me....MARIOOOO ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrizztLink 03/27/23 8:01:00 PM #2: |
Let them just pay that lawyer with their wages. oh wait --- http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Irony 03/27/23 8:01:40 PM #3: |
Because the lawyer usually takes most of it then your boss pretty much finds a way to get rid of you --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sexypwnstar 03/27/23 8:01:57 PM #4: |
DrizztLink posted... Let them just pay that lawyer with their wages. If there was a case lawyers would jump on that shit for free until they win --- http://i.imgur.com/Su4g5.jpg http://i.imgur.com/21DiJ.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 03/27/23 8:02:32 PM #5: |
In addition to being poorly paid, restaurant workers are often younger, less experienced, and less knowledgable about what they are entitled to. In some areas, language barriers also pose an obstacle. --- Please don't be weird in my topics ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PowerOats 03/27/23 8:02:37 PM #6: |
Kinda hard to sue/relocate/support with minimum wage, especially on a whim ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AzNDarkSamurai 03/27/23 8:02:41 PM #7: |
DrizztLink posted... Let them just pay that lawyer with their wages. Arent there lawyers out there that wont charge you any money until they win the case? --- Pinoy Pride, 1988 - the day I die! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrizztLink 03/27/23 8:03:19 PM #8: |
AzNDarkSamurai posted... Arent there lawyers out there that wont charge you any money until they win the case?And you fuckin' believe them? --- http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ellis123 03/27/23 8:04:55 PM #9: |
AzNDarkSamurai posted... Arent there lawyers out there that wont charge you any money until they win the case?Only for defendants who cannot pay, and generally only if they win + in very extreme circumstances. Lawsuits are only a tool of the rich, it is not something that is to be used to stop crimes: only facilitate them. --- "A shouted order to do something of dubious morality with an unpredictable outcome? Thweeet!" My FC is in my profile. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Irony 03/27/23 8:05:13 PM #10: |
DrizztLink posted... And you fuckin' believe them?To be fair the one my mom got a long time ago for disability before she died was actually like this. --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ClockworkHare 03/27/23 8:08:50 PM #11: |
So why don't more restaurant workers sue management for wage theft? It's a fight that typically ends in the unemployment line. It's been a known issue for decades. You might feel that necessitates an urgency to tackle it now. The establishments in power disagree because they see it as a standard that has stood the test of time, justice be damned... Translation: be wary about working in food service. You get what you apply for. --- Bite me like one of your French rolls. https://tryimg.com/u/2020/08/11/1tZ1gcH.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MAR10_KarT 03/28/23 1:44:08 AM #12: |
ClockworkHare posted... It's a fight that typically ends in the unemployment line. It's been a known issue for decades. You might feel that necessitates an urgency to tackle it now. The establishments in power disagree because they see it as a standard that has stood the test of time, justice be damned... firing for retaliation is illegal and Im pretty sure that restaurant worker can go to the labor board and report them --- Its a me....MARIOOOO ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MAR10_KarT 03/28/23 10:23:19 PM #13: |
Bump --- Its a me....MARIOOOO ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bluezero 03/28/23 10:25:03 PM #14: |
MAR10_KarT posted... firing for retaliation is illegal and Im pretty sure that restaurant worker can go to the labor board and report themSurely that will work! --- i7-12700F - 3080 - 32GB 3200 - 1440p Ultrawide ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nirvanas_Nox 03/28/23 10:35:50 PM #15: |
MAR10_KarT posted... firing for retaliation is illegal and Im pretty sure that restaurant worker can go to the labor board and report them Yeah and who's gonna believe them if they have no proof? It's easy for employers to lie and say they fired you for other reasons. Those kinda of firings are hard to prove --- Make sure not to bleed over the discs.- Xiciassa NOT IN MY CANTINA! - Bartender ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solar_Crimson 03/28/23 10:36:30 PM #16: |
Irony posted... Because the lawyer usually takes most of it then your boss pretty much finds a way to get rid of you Antifar posted... In addition to being poorly paid, restaurant workers are often younger, less experienced, and less knowledgable about what they are entitled to. In some areas, language barriers also pose an obstacle. --- Eat the rich Destroy the GOP ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Intro2Logic 03/28/23 10:41:13 PM #17: |
Just had reason to post this article in another topic, might as well post it here too: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/owed-employers-face-little-accountability-for-wage-theft/ Even when workers won their claims, more than a third of those successful cases totaling nearly a billion dollars showed no money was ever recovered. --- Have you tried thinking rationally? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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runewalshPSiv 03/28/23 10:41:25 PM #18: |
Why would I sue when no wage theft is happening? --- There's no sensation to compare with this Suspended animation, a state of bliss ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Agent_Stroud 03/28/23 10:43:29 PM #19: |
I work in a restaurant as part of the kitchen crew, and when I asked a friend whos part of the waitstaff why they dont just get paid an hourly wage like us folks in the kitchen, she looked at me as if I had grown two heads before telling me how they actually like getting tips even though theyre not guaranteed a good paycheck if the business is slow on a particular day since they would make a whole lot less if they were simply wagies like us in the back. --- "We're going to shake things up, Morgan. Like old times." -- Alex Yu, Prey (2017) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SiO4 03/28/23 11:24:59 PM #20: |
Agent_Stroud posted... I work in a restaurant as part of the kitchen crew, and when I asked a friend whos part of the waitstaff why they dont just get paid an hourly wage like us folks in the kitchen, she looked at me as if I had grown two heads before telling me how they actually like getting tips even though theyre not guaranteed a good paycheck if the business is slow on a particular day since they would make a whole lot less if they were simply wagies like us in the back. The Idea is, for front of the house, You can get your ass kicked all day, but at the end of the day you will be paid for it. If things are slow you might get to go home early if you want to. In retail you could get your ass kicked every shift and never make a dime more. --- "Whatever the reason you're on Mars, I'm glad you're there, and I wish I was with you." ~Carl Sagan. Currently playing: Flight Simulator X.~PC ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MAR10_KarT 03/29/23 4:58:16 PM #21: |
^same with fast food --- Its a me....MARIOOOO ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eggcorn 03/29/23 4:59:12 PM #22: |
People are too scared to lose their jobs I suppose. --- Warning: This post may contain triggering or distressing content. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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sull56ivan2010 03/29/23 5:02:21 PM #23: |
Is TC talking all restaurant workers or servers only for wage theft? --- Professional athletes lack intelligence to understand real world issues. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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brestugo 03/29/23 5:05:21 PM #24: |
In some cases, they're worried about revealing their legal status. --- Putin delenda est ... Copied to Clipboard!
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s0nicfan 03/29/23 5:07:18 PM #25: |
What percentage of tip workers report all their tips on their taxes? To report wage theft, you would need to both have evidence of wage theft and also be suing for some dollar amount. Presumably some people think that the amount lost due to wage theft is still better than taking it to the government and having them audit your back-taxes based on your claims to find that you've been dodging taxes for years. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 03/29/23 5:09:26 PM #26: |
Sexypwnstar posted... If there was a case lawyers would jump on that shit for free until they win There's a case the problem is wage guy ain't got money worth shit and lawyer can't do it for a cut off the winnings because that ain't shit either. A class action would be more appealing but the super large restaurants usually don't engage in wage theft. The managers don't even have a say in who gets paid and how much and when. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VampireCoyote 03/29/23 5:10:46 PM #27: |
Taking someone to court is a pain in the ass and you make yourself vulnerable to a counter suit --- She/her ... Copied to Clipboard!
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legendary_zell 03/29/23 5:14:52 PM #28: |
I've actually litigated these cases before. There's so many reasons. Even clear as day cases can take years due to the slowness of the legal system. At the end of the process, a defendant can simply refuse to pay or can fold up, and that adds more years to the process if pursued. Evidence is often very difficult to find, preserve, and present, especially if it's a cash based business/under the table employment. Litigating takes huge amounts of time and energy away from the victim. When you get fired for retaliation, you're still out of a job, even if it's blatant and you win the retaliation case. The government agencies that are supposed to investigate and enforce this stuff are underfunded and understaffed. They're working with trash laws and trash judges that at best make wage theft a cost of doing business, rather than something to really fear like theft related to property. All of this even assumes that people are aware of their rights. Many service, agricultural, and otherwise low wage workers face language barriers or immigration status related barriers. Some don't know that plaintiff's lawyers and government agencies work for free or for contingency. Some don't think it's worth it to have 1/3rd of their meager recovery taken by lawyers. Basically, the entire system is broken from top to bottom. The only ways to prevent wage theft are to increase the certainty of being caught and to make the penalties drastic when you are caught...or to just have the workers control everything and pay themselves. Bosses are always going to want to pay as little as they can, regardless of the law, that's just economics. --- I gotta be righteous, I gotta be me, I gotta be conscious, I gotta be free, I gotta be able, I gotta attack, I gotta be stable, I gotta be black. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gatorsPENSbucs 03/29/23 5:17:18 PM #29: |
runewalshPSiv posted... Why would I sue when no wage theft is happening?Thats what Im wondering. Sure if you dont work much you wont make much, but during slow times managers send people home like its their job. I waited tables for quite some time and made some damn good money, and the people I knew at legit restaurants or bars were making insane money. I dont think the bartender working 2 or 3 days a week living comfortably is really complaining about wage theft. --- https://imgur.com/ZFt3WwT http://error1355.com/ce/gatorsPENSbucs.html https://i.imgur.com/pqMQZyw.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WhisperWolf2005 03/29/23 5:19:03 PM #30: |
What is some examples of this wage theft? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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s0nicfan 03/29/23 5:20:19 PM #31: |
WhisperWolf2005 posted... What is some examples of this wage theft? There's a place around the corner from me where I only tip cash because I discretely asked the waitstaff once if tips placed on a card ever make it back to them and they told me no. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anony1125 03/29/23 5:32:22 PM #32: |
WhisperWolf2005 posted... What is some examples of this wage theft?Well, at the place where I work the owner pockets the tips on online orders rather than giving them to the servers. I'm pretty sure that's wage theft? --- Feeling really good. Faceless goofus in a sea of alts ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AzNDarkSamurai 03/29/23 6:24:32 PM #33: |
That is definitely wage theft because it doesnt go to the person its intended for. --- Pinoy Pride, 1988 - the day I die! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 03/29/23 6:37:40 PM #34: |
WhisperWolf2005 posted... What is some examples of this wage theft? More than two hundred Burger King employees in San Francisco didnt get paid minimum wage or overtime, and sometimes didnt get breaks, according to a citation from the California Labor Commissioners Office. The franchisee sold or closed all the locations they owned, but still owes workers $1.9 million. https://www.forbes.com/advisor/personal-finance/wage-theft-what-to-do/ --- Please don't be weird in my topics ... Copied to Clipboard!
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