Renegade system..

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Lairen 03/09/23 1:41:34 PM #1:	Its very boring cause Paragon is being a good guy and good things happen from essentially every paragon choice while renegade is being bad and bad outcomes. There would be choices that sounded grey or that even the other choice might have good results but if it got you renegade points then bad consequences would happen later. Theres seems to be no good renegade rewards, weapons, powers or characters exclusive to this path. This is my only real gripe with these 2 games. Ill play 3 soon. --- When it rains, it pours. <cite>Lairen posted [p:972061008] in Just finis... [t:80373765]...</cite> <quote>Its very boring cause Paragon is being a good guy and good things happen from essentially every paragon choice while renegade is being bad and bad outcomes.There would be choices that sounded grey or that even the other choice might have good results but if it got you renegade points then bad consequences would happen later.Theres seems to be no good renegade rewards, weapons, powers or characters exclusive to this path.This is my only real gripe with these 2 games. Ill play 3 soon.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FurryPhilosifer 03/09/23 1:42:28 PM #2:	My friend is playing through the series just now too, and he said it's just "choose the blue option every time". --- Ghosts are cool. <cite>FurryPhilosifer posted [p:972061030] in Just finis... [t:80373765]...</cite> <quote>My friend is playing through the series just now too, and he said it's just "choose the blue option every time". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lairen 03/09/23 1:44:14 PM #3:	I was really expecting a lot of: Paragon: You did the morally right thing. Good job. Renegade: You sacrificed many but got this awesome gun! This never happens. --- When it rains, it pours. <cite>Lairen posted [p:972061074] in Just finis... [t:80373765]...</cite> <quote>I was really expecting a lot of:Paragon: You did the morally right thing. Good job.Renegade: You sacrificed many but got this awesome gun!This never happens.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Murphiroth 03/09/23 1:45:47 PM #4:	FurryPhilosifer posted... My friend is playing through the series just now too, and he said it's just "choose the blue option every time". Not quite accurate. It's choose the blue or the red option every time. Pick a lane and stay in it until ME3 where the system is reworked to allow you to play more mixed and still hit dialogue checks. Paragon/Renegade are less about rewards and more about how you flavor your Shep. Are you space cop Superman or space cop Punisher? <cite>Murphiroth posted [p:972061104] in Just finis... [t:80373765]...</cite> <quote>FurryPhilosifer posted... </cite><quote>My friend is playing through the series just now too, and he said it's just "choose the blue option every time".</quote>Not quite accurate. It's choose the blue or the red option every time. Pick a lane and stay in it until ME3 where the system is reworked to allow you to play more mixed and still hit dialogue checks. Paragon/Renegade are less about rewards and more about how you flavor your Shep. Are you space cop Superman or space cop Punisher? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Murphiroth 03/09/23 1:47:38 PM #5:	Lairen posted... Theres seems to be no good renegade rewards, weapons, powers or characters exclusive to this path. Paragon doesn't have stuff like this either though. <cite>Murphiroth posted [p:972061130] in Just finis... [t:80373765]...</cite> <quote>Lairen posted... </cite><quote>Theres seems to be no good renegade rewards, weapons, powers or characters exclusive to this path.</quote>Paragon doesn't have stuff like this either though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lairen 03/09/23 1:50:45 PM #6:	Murphiroth posted... Paragon doesn't have stuff like this either though. But then theres literally no moral dilemma here. A major reason to play evil in other games is for the powers/characters/rewards. If its literally be good and get good results or be bad and get bad results: i dont even understand the choice. --- When it rains, it pours. <cite>Lairen posted [p:972061186] in Just finis... [t:80373765]...</cite> <quote>Murphiroth posted... </cite><quote>Paragon doesn't have stuff like this either though.</quote>But then theres literally no moral dilemma here. A major reason to play evil in other games is for the powers/characters/rewards. If its literally be good and get good results or be bad and get bad results: i dont even understand the choice.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
apocalyptic_4 03/09/23 2:02:34 PM #7:	I've been itching to replay these games cause I had ablast playing the remasters last year but I can't get over playing renegade. I feel like the choices just limit your rewards and kills off team mates. Is it worth it to play through the trilogy as a renegade shep? I'd start it up right now if so. --- XBL: Mrpicardbottoms PSN: Bosh369 <cite>apocalyptic_4 posted [p:972061410] in Just finis... [t:80373765]...</cite> <quote>I've been itching to replay these games cause I had ablast playing the remasters last year but I can't get over playing renegade. I feel like the choices just limit your rewards and kills off team mates. Is it worth it to play through the trilogy as a renegade shep? I'd start it up right now if so.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lairen 03/09/23 2:09:41 PM #8:	apocalyptic_4 posted... I've been itching to replay these games cause I had ablast playing the remasters last year but I can't get over playing renegade. I feel like the choices just limit your rewards and kills off team mates. Is it worth it to play through the trilogy as a renegade shep? I'd start it up right now if so. After ME2 i cant think of any renegade options i wish i took..... --- When it rains, it pours. <cite>Lairen posted [p:972061577] in Just finis... [t:80373765]...</cite> <quote>apocalyptic_4 posted... </cite><quote>I've been itching to replay these games cause I had ablast playing the remasters last year but I can't get over playing renegade. I feel like the choices just limit your rewards and kills off team mates. Is it worth it to play through the trilogy as a renegade shep? I'd start it up right now if so.</quote>After ME2 i cant think of any renegade options i wish i took.....</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smiffwilm 03/09/23 2:12:42 PM #9:	Lairen posted... After ME2 i cant think of any renegade options i wish i took..... Surely you took the "you talk too much" one though, right? --- My Mario Maker 2 ID is 6RG-5XK-JCG <cite>Smiffwilm posted [p:972061625] in Just finis... [t:80373765]...</cite> <quote>Lairen posted... </cite><quote>After ME2 i cant think of any renegade options i wish i took.....</quote>Surely you took the "you talk too much" one though, right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lairen 03/09/23 2:17:45 PM #10:	What kills me is all the options of Cerberus being like "Save that thing and dont destroy it so we can gain info on fighting the enemy!" This is always the bad choice and you should always say the "This is wrong and bad so im destroying it!" Thats always right. --- When it rains, it pours. <cite>Lairen posted [p:972061733] in Just finis... [t:80373765]...</cite> <quote>What kills me is all the options of Cerberus being like "Save that thing and dont destroy it so we can gain info on fighting the enemy!"This is always the bad choice and you should always say the "This is wrong and bad so im destroying it!"Thats always right.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Murphiroth 03/09/23 2:19:41 PM #11:	Lairen posted... But then theres literally no moral dilemma here. A major reason to play evil in other games is for the powers/characters/rewards. If its literally be good and get good results or be bad and get bad results: i dont even understand the choice. Renegade isn't evil though, there's not meant to be a moral dilemma. Renegade doesn't even get "bad results" just different results. <cite>Murphiroth posted [p:972061767] in Just finis... [t:80373765]...</cite> <quote>Lairen posted... </cite><quote>But then theres literally no moral dilemma here. A major reason to play evil in other games is for the powers/characters/rewards. If its literally be good and get good results or be bad and get bad results: i dont even understand the choice.</quote>Renegade isn't evil though, there's not meant to be a moral dilemma. Renegade doesn't even get "bad results" just different results.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Murphiroth 03/09/23 2:20:24 PM #12:	apocalyptic_4 posted... I feel like the choices just limit your rewards and kills off team mates. It doesn't do this in any way, shape, or form. <cite>Murphiroth posted [p:972061788] in Just finis... [t:80373765]...</cite> <quote>apocalyptic_4 posted... </cite><quote> I feel like the choices just limit your rewards and kills off team mates. </quote>It doesn't do this in any way, shape, or form. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kage_53 03/09/23 2:44:58 PM #13:	Thats pretty much every modern rpg. If you want choices that actually matter play pc rpgs from 1997 up until 2004ish. <cite>kage_53 posted [p:972062329] in Just finis... [t:80373765]...</cite> <quote>Thats pretty much every modern rpg. If you want choices that actually matter play pc rpgs from 1997 up until 2004ish.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yusiko 03/09/23 3:01:09 PM #14:	Murphiroth posted... Renegade isn't evil though, there's not meant to be a moral dilemma. Renegade doesn't even get "bad results" just different results. True until the third game The renegade path ends up with fewer war assets than the paragon path Which makes sense an unlikable jerk isn't someone who is gonna be able to rally the galaxy --- yusketeer <cite>yusiko posted [p:972062637] in Just finis... [t:80373765]...</cite> <quote>Murphiroth posted... </cite><quote>Renegade isn't evil though, there's not meant to be a moral dilemma. Renegade doesn't even get "bad results" just different results.</quote>True until the third game The renegade path ends up with fewer war assets than the paragon path Which makes sense an unlikable jerk isn't someone who is gonna be able to rally the galaxy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lairen 03/09/23 3:02:19 PM #15:	I disagree with those saying renegade doesnt affect things too badly. It distinctly has some pretty bad results all throughout. --- When it rains, it pours. <cite>Lairen posted [p:972062662] in Just finis... [t:80373765]...</cite> <quote>I disagree with those saying renegade doesnt affect things too badly. It distinctly has some pretty bad results all throughout.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 03/09/23 3:04:17 PM #16:	Lairen posted... After ME2 i cant think of any renegade options i wish i took..... Does that count renegade interrupts? Because several of those are really good --- http://i.imgur.com/VeNBg.gif http://i.imgur.com/gd5jC8q.gif http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif http://i.imgur.com/3p29JqP.gif <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:972062693] in Just finis... [t:80373765]...</cite> <quote>Lairen posted... </cite><quote>After ME2 i cant think of any renegade options i wish i took.....</quote>Does that count renegade interrupts? Because several of those are really good</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xlr_big-coop 03/09/23 3:09:57 PM #17:	I remember there's a renegade option on the garrus mission, you can kill the mechanic working on this assault bot that shows up towards the end of the mission and if you do, it will have less health. Not all renegade options are useless but I will say MOST are so laughably edgy or even evil. There's definitely no grey in mass effect. --- :) <cite>xlr_big-coop posted [p:972062824] in Just finis... [t:80373765]...</cite> <quote>I remember there's a renegade option on the garrus mission, you can kill the mechanic working on this assault bot that shows up towards the end of the mission and if you do, it will have less health.Not all renegade options are useless but I will say MOST are so laughably edgy or even evil. There's definitely no grey in mass effect.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kage_53 03/09/23 3:41:52 PM #18:	https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9TgTLJXoD_o&t=105s The only renegade option I disagreed with was telling Jack to kill that one guy instead of Jack making the choice. <cite>kage_53 posted [p:972063573] in Just finis... [t:80373765]...</cite> <quote>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9TgTLJXoD_o&t=105sThe only renegade option I disagreed with was telling Jack to kill that one guy instead of Jack making the choice. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Murphiroth 03/09/23 4:27:17 PM #19:	Lairen posted... I disagree with those saying renegade doesnt affect things too badly. It distinctly has some pretty bad results all throughout. Like what? <cite>Murphiroth posted [p:972064567] in Just finis... [t:80373765]...</cite> <quote>Lairen posted... </cite><quote>I disagree with those saying renegade doesnt affect things too badly. It distinctly has some pretty bad results all throughout.</quote>Like what?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Makeveli_lives 03/09/23 4:30:29 PM #20:	Lairen posted... I was really expecting a lot of: Paragon: You did the morally right thing. Good job. Renegade: You sacrificed many but got this awesome gun! This never happens. Theres more of that in 3 that worked better. They introduced a new way to measure influence, but options and responses werent locked out just because you were paragon or renegade. so if you had 50/100 points in influence, you could choose either the paragon or the renegade option. But in 2 it would work like you need 50/100 in paragon to be able to choose the paragon option and 50/100 to be able to choose the renegade option. --- Switch FC: SW-3917-4425-6106 PSN: PiKappaPhi769 <cite>Makeveli_lives posted [p:972064627] in Just finis... [t:80373765]...</cite> <quote>Lairen posted... </cite><quote>I was really expecting a lot of:Paragon: You did the morally right thing. Good job.Renegade: You sacrificed many but got this awesome gun!This never happens.</quote>Theres more of that in 3 that worked better. They introduced a new way to measure influence, but options and responses werent locked out just because you were paragon or renegade. so if you had 50/100 points in influence, you could choose either the paragon or the renegade option. But in 2 it would work like you need 50/100 in paragon to be able to choose the paragon option and 50/100 to be able to choose the renegade option. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Flauros 03/09/23 4:31:09 PM #21:	Lairen posted... After ME2 i cant think of any renegade options i wish i took..... ~~In 3, i like to shoot the salamander guy trying to fuck up my plans to keep the Krogans down.~~ --- https://i.imgur.com/EX6Md7k.gif https://i.imgur.com/ygAzHKB.mp4 https://i.imgur.com/c84omp7.gif https://i.imgur.com/Hj9RrC6.mp4 <cite>Flauros posted [p:972064642] in Just finis... [t:80373765]...</cite> <quote>Lairen posted... </cite><quote>After ME2 i cant think of any renegade options i wish i took.....</quote>In 3, i like to shoot the salamander guy trying to fuck up my plans to keep the Krogans down.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 03/09/23 4:32:48 PM #22:	Flauros posted... ~~In 3, i like to shoot the salamander guy trying to fuck up my plans to keep the Krogans down.~~ This is the worst post I've ever seen --- http://i.imgur.com/VeNBg.gif http://i.imgur.com/gd5jC8q.gif http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif http://i.imgur.com/3p29JqP.gif <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:972064684] in Just finis... [t:80373765]...</cite> <quote>Flauros posted... </cite><quote>In 3, i like to shoot the salamander guy trying to fuck up my plans to keep the Krogans down.</quote>This is the worst post I've ever seen</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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