Current Events > You gotta respect George R.R. Martin

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MICHALECOLE posted...

And if he finishes the book and you guys dont like it, youll all cry and say you wish he had never finished it in the first place.

lol, no

I just don't understand how Sanderson is able to release the amount of books that he does and Martin just doesn't get shit done.

Euripides posted...

lol, no

Oh yeah youre right because you guys clearly are very level headed. He writes however many books he has written and helped make however much media that you all consume, and that apparently gets him zero respect until he releases his next book. Makes sense.

A_Good_Boy posted...

I just don't understand how Sanderson is able to release the amount of books that he does and Martin just doesn't get shit done.

Because people are different

A_Good_Boy posted...

I just don't understand how Sanderson is able to release the amount of books that he does and Martin just doesn't get shit done.

Because Sanderson is actually writing. Martin isn't.

Oh and I use to Martin breaks for years. I honestly believed book six would be released before the TV series reached that point. Even with the slow pace he was going that seemed believable. Yet now the series is done for years and that book is no where near complete.

I do respect Martin for the books he wrote and TV shows he worked on. I will also make fun of him and joke about his laziness. These are not exclusive.

MICHALECOLE posted...

Youre*

You got me. That hurt a bit. I'll think about it alot

he's like me if i was successful

yeah fuck the "doesn't owe anything" reasoning when he drip feeds his readers status updates on the books every year and refuses to officially retire the series.

pauIie posted...

yeah fuck the "doesn't owe anything" reasoning when he drip feeds his readers status updates on the books every year and refuses to officially retire the series.

yeah people would totally respect him and leave him alone if he just retired the series

A_Good_Boy posted...

I just don't understand how Sanderson is able to release the amount of books that he does and Martin just doesn't get shit done.

Sanderson has time blocks set aside for writing. He treats it like a regular job.

MICHALECOLE posted...

yeah people would totally respect him and leave him alone if he just retired the series

They'd respect him more if he stopped stringing them along.

Why are we talking about Sanderson? What about Pirateaba who writes The Wandering Inn? They write multiple chapters a week, and they're longer than you'd expect.

Like Sanderson since 2005, has written 5 million, 42 thousand, and 82 words.
The Wandering Inn (which has been going since 2016), itself has 11 million, 197 thousand and 590 words, and that grows weekly.

MICHALECOLE posted...

yeah people would totally respect him and leave him alone if he just retired the series

i don't disagree with your implication. but the doesn't owe people reasoning doesn't apply until he stops stringing people along imo.

pauIie posted...

i don't disagree with your implication. but the doesn't owe people reasoning doesn't apply until he stops stringing people along imo.

If he stated it, then the Song of Ice and Fire brand would take a nosedive, and House of Dragons would have never been greenlit, and the various other series would have been cancelled.
If he wishes to keep making money from ASOIAF, he'll need to make sure even if he isn't, that he appears to keep writing.

MICHALECOLE posted...

Everybody is owed respect.

Disagree, but you seem way more invested in this whole thing than I am so have fun lol

"Ask again and I'm taking another nap!" is absolutely the best response here.

Choco posted...

he's like me if i was successful

Hell he's like me now

Gwynevere posted...

Disagree, but you seem way more invested in this whole thing than I am so have fun lol

Surprised somebody with pronouns in their signature doesnt think everybody is owed respect.

I hope he releases Dream of Spring first

coolguyjimmy posted...

If he stated it, then the Song of Ice and Fire brand would take a nosedive, and House of Dragons would have never been greenlit, and the various other series would have been cancelled.
If he wishes to keep making money from ASOIAF, he'll need to make sure even if he isn't, that he appears to keep writing.

if the brand isn't strong enough to get attention without fake hope of GRRM finishing the books, then imo, it should go it's natural course.

but again what i'm focusing on is the whole doesn't owe people anything reasoning. you can not have a problem with people having a problem with GRRM not finishing the books when he's stringing people along like he's still going to finish the books someday.

Imagine thinking that a guy who promised a seven-book series (and signed a publishing deal to write a seven-book series) is in no way obligated to complete said seven-book series

Maybe 2011 was cursed. Patrick Rothfuss released The Wise Man's Fear and we are still waiting for the last book of the trilogy.

I know Brandon Sanderson gets ragged on, but bless him for finishing the Wheel of Time series after Robert Jordan died so fans had closure to the series.

As for Martin, I won't pick up his next book, I'd have to reread the entire series, and too much time has passed for me to care to.

Hornswoggled posted...

I imagine that one could take a certain pleasure in amassing a fanbase, and then systematically torturing and abusing them.

You dont know what the words torture and abuse mean, clearly.

The book will be finished when White Castle goes out of business.

MICHALECOLE posted...

Surprised somebody with pronouns in their signature doesnt think everybody is owed respect.

Well, I live in reality where that doesn't really pan out very often and that tempers my expectations

Alucard188 posted...

The only thing that's done is show me not to buy into book series that isn't completed yet.

This.

Euripides posted...

I hate his stupid smug face

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/8/4/AAcjXVAAEQME.jpg

ASOIAF and a few other books in a similar boat basically killed my desire to ever start an in-progress series of books again. There's no point to it. I'll check an interesting series out if it's ever finished.

He should be sued

DarthAragorn posted...

ASOIAF and a few other books in a similar boat basically killed my desire to ever start an in-progress series of books again. There's no point to it. I'll check an interesting series out if it's ever finished.

Try out the Cosmere! Brandon Sanderson is such a prolific writer that the only way it'll never get finished is if the dude dies.

i'm so glad i stopped giving a shit about anything the dude comes out with

I do think it's unfair to compare every author to each other. People are different.

Stephen King is a workaholic who has been cranking out 2 or 3 books a year for decades. And thats good for him, he will never stop. But not everyone needs to be like that.

Baha05 posted...

https://youtu.be/QpNFqg99dwo

I came here to post this.

DisgracefulSins posted...

I do think it's unfair to compare every author to each other. People are different.

Stephen King is a workaholic who has been cranking out 2 or 3 books a year for decades. And thats good for him, he will never stop. But not everyone needs to be like that.

Speaking of someone who almost quit a seven-book series halfway through...

MICHALECOLE posted...

What? This guy is saying he doesnt respect George r r Martin for not finishing his books.. that he wrote. Theyre his books. He doesnt have to finish them, he doesnt owe anybody anything. And to say that he doesnt deserve respect because of that is absurd.

He DOES have to finish them, he is under contract by a publisher to finish them, he was required to finish them years ago.

Euripides posted...

Speaking of someone who almost quit a seven-book series halfway through...

Did he really want to drop the Dark Tower series? I know he almost died so his priority was to finish them and the last 3 books were pretty rushed but I didnt know he wanted to quit. I also read them after they were finished though so I didnt follow it.

Alteres posted...

I have far more respect for Patrick Rothfuss.

Why? He promised to release two chapters of the third book if charity goals were met and did absolutely nothing once the goals were met. He also charges that charity an exorbitant amount of money to have their charity stream at a building that he owns (or rather, that his LLC Elodin Holdings owns). By all appearances, he's pretty much a con man at this point.

BTW, the wait for Doors of Stone has been longer than the wait for Winds of Winter.

It just feels kinda cowardly at this point lol. He saw how people reacted to the show ending and he doesn't wanna put something out that won't satisfy so he procrastinates.

dummy420 posted...

Did he really want to drop the Dark Tower series? I know he almost died so his priority was to finish them and the last 3 books were pretty rushed but I didnt know he wanted to quit. I also read them after they were finished though so I didnt follow it.

Yeah, he only finished them after his near-death experience.