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dancing_cactuar
03/06/23 12:20:08 PM
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Next Elden Ring patch to change "plump sort" to "cheerful sort".

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A_Good_Boy
03/06/23 12:25:16 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
At least acknowledge in abstract: is it a good thing or a bad thing that stories are being rewritten and put on the shelf without any kind of indicator to soften the language that's being used? Regardless of whether you think it's a big deal or not, since we're not going to agree, I would ask that you at least give me the courtesy of acknowledging that the thing that you don't think is a big deal is still negative, just a small negative in your mind.
Sure, I'll give it to you that in abstract it's not a positive thing that books are being rewritten to suit modern sensibilities. These works are windows into the past and they're markers that show us how far we've come in regards to how we consider and regard the people around us, and changing them is almost tantamount to acting like these issues never occurred.

I just don't see myself getting worked up over campy children's horror stories. If it were like old cartoons where they're impossible to find anymore, or music from old musicians performing under contracts from companies that no longer exist, or even video games where the publisher has the freedom and the rights to rip their games straight from your digital library without your consent then that would be one thing. But these are mass produced children's books that are scattered all over the country and are easy to find if you wanted to find them. So all in all it's just a resounding "Meh" from me.

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s0nicfan
03/06/23 12:27:18 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
Sure, I'll give it to you that in abstract it's not a positive thing that books are being rewritten to suit modern sensibilities. These works are windows into the past and they're markers that show us how far we've come in regards to how we consider and regard the people around us, and changing them is almost tantamount to acting like these issues never occurred.

I just don't see myself getting worked up over campy children's horror stories. If it were like old cartoons where they're impossible to find anymore, or music from old musicians performing under contracts from companies that no longer exist, or even video games where the publisher has the freedom and the rights to rip their games straight from your digital library without your consent then that would be one thing. But these are mass produced children's books that are scattered all over the country and are easy to find if you wanted to find them. So all in all it's just a resounding "Meh" from me.

Fair enough. I wouldn't exactly call posting on gamefaqs to say that something is bad is getting worked up about it, but I won't disagree with you that there are also bigger problems in the world. Either way, this was a pleasant discussion, so thanks for that.

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Error1355
03/06/23 12:28:51 PM
#54:


Oh is this the next 'I haven't thought or cared about this property for 10/20 years but now society is ruined' fake outrage target?

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Garioshi
03/06/23 12:35:40 PM
#55:


I do not see the harm

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Questionmarktarius
03/06/23 12:36:37 PM
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Error1355 posted...
Oh is this the next 'I haven't thought or cared about this property for 10/20 years but now society is ruined' fake outrage target?
Seems that way.
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BlkSt0rM
03/06/23 12:44:49 PM
#57:


Lmao

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mario2000
03/06/23 1:03:19 PM
#58:


Can they rewrite all the dumb fakeout cliffhangers? I loved Goosebumps as a kid but those got old after a while.

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Shadow_Don
03/06/23 1:10:01 PM
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Literally the author of the series wants to do this and dipshits are screeching censorship.

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Lil_Bit83
03/06/23 1:11:09 PM
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This is lame.

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texanfan27
03/06/23 1:11:29 PM
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Honestly, once a book is written it really shouldnt be edited unless there was an error that slipped by. These things seem pretty harmless overall. so unless something in them came off as insulting unintentionally, then just leave it alone

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Questionmarktarius
03/06/23 1:13:06 PM
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texanfan27 posted...
Honestly, once a book is written it really shouldnt be edited unless there was an error that slipped by.
Books get new revised editions all the damn time. We're only pretending to care because "woke" and "nostalgia" collided.
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--Zero-
03/06/23 1:48:21 PM
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This is a marketing stunt by authors to get more money for reprints from new fans and collectors. Old books will now be worth more too.

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Shadowplay
03/06/23 1:53:32 PM
#64:


PC liberals have become just as bad as bat shit crazy right-wing evangelicals about demanding things be bowdlerized.

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PesticideDream
03/06/23 1:54:01 PM
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Stephen King needs to get on the sensitivity bandwagon. If we took out all the racism and homophobia and fatphobia and domestic violence and sexism and sexuality, we can turn IT from like a 1200 page tome to a 20 page novella.
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garan
03/06/23 2:34:24 PM
#66:


WilliamPorygon posted...
I don't like being scared, can I have a version where everything is all sunshine and rainbows?
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cuttin_in_farm
03/06/23 4:39:15 PM
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I feel like the issue is that the changes alter what is being said outright.

Cheerful is not a synonym for plump.

Being tall isnt the same image as being fat.

Like, I think thats the actual issue here.

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Dat_Cracka_Jax
03/07/23 12:07:56 AM
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Maybe this is the plot for the goosebumps 3 movie

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CADE_FOSTER
03/07/23 12:11:32 AM
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if he doesnt rewrite them republicans might ban his books good call on his part
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HylianFox
03/07/23 12:13:10 AM
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This is a joke, right

Half the listed edits don't even make any sense
"Fat" is now "tall"? "Plump" is now "cheerful"? A "wolf-whistle" is now just a regular whistle that has no sexual harassment connotations at all?

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Zikten
03/07/23 12:38:25 AM
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African American is bad now?
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BTH_Phoenix
03/07/23 11:16:51 AM
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Definitely sounds like an attention thing. Last time I watched Stine as part of a Q&A he was complaining that they wouldn't let him write a book called Morons from Mars and he asked "who's that offensive to? Morons?" I doubt he did a 180 unless someone cut him a big check.

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FortuneCookie
03/07/23 11:37:13 AM
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This is silly, but at least it's the original author doing it.

Although I detest the removal of references to villains making slaves of people. Slavery does not automatically mean a White person putting a Black person to forced labor. It's kind of like if we suddenly decided to reserve the term assassination for when a Civil Rights leader is killed.
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FortuneCookie
03/07/23 11:44:20 AM
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Zikten posted...
African American is bad now?

It was only a matter of time. When there are two terms which mean the same thing, one becomes accepted and the other becomes taboo. And African American was never the preferred terminology among Black communities.

I will admit that it's come about a lot sooner than I expected. I was thinking it would be at least 2040 before African-American became taboo.
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ArsGoetia
03/07/23 11:45:50 AM
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creativerealms posted...
I think the creator is allowed to change his work if he wants. So this isn't exactly the same thing as the other cases.

pretty sure what he wants is money
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FortuneCookie
03/07/23 11:51:19 AM
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TMOG posted...
I'm so outraged about this change to a children's book series that I haven't read in over 20 years

That's a bit like saying, "I don't care if the house across the street gets robbed. I don't know them anyway."

I don't care about children's books that I'll never revisit. I care about an ever-narrowing window of acceptability, the normalization of censorship, and what the next target of this trend may be.

For what it's worth, as stated in a previous post, I believe the author is allowed to change his own work for the sake of sensitivity (or marketability). It doesn't mean that I have to applaud them for it.
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Reave314
03/07/23 12:00:03 PM
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https://twitter.com/RL_Stine/status/1632817346803904513
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FortuneCookie
03/07/23 12:03:46 PM
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Reave314 posted...
https://twitter.com/RL_Stine/status/1632817346803904513

Oh, that's sad.

They straight up said that he authorized it. What, was it in his original contract that they had the right to make revisions? That's pretty lousy to go behind his back and still claim that he authorized the changes. Did they think he would just remain quiet without compensation?

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s0nicfan
03/07/23 12:20:17 PM
#82:


FortuneCookie posted...
That's a bit like saying, "I don't care if the house across the street gets robbed. I don't know them anyway."

I don't care about children's books that I'll never revisit. I care about an ever-narrowing window of acceptability, the normalization of censorship, and what the next target of this trend may be.

For what it's worth, as stated in a previous post, I believe the author is allowed to change his own work for the sake of sensitivity (or marketability). It doesn't mean that I have to applaud them for it.

It's okay. Eventually a publisher in a state like Texas will strip content from a children's books to "sanitize" it, specifically pointing towards these sorts of cases as precedent to justify their decision, and then suddenly "children's books I'll never read" will be back on the table for topics we should all be concerned about even though up until literally that moment it was considered laughable to care at all.

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Questionmarktarius
03/07/23 12:33:28 PM
#83:


s0nicfan posted...
It's okay. Eventually a publisher in a state like Texas will strip content from a children's books to "sanitize" it, specifically pointing towards these sorts of cases as precedent to justify their decision, and then suddenly "children's books I'll never read" will be back on the table for topics we should all be concerned about even though up until literally that moment it was considered laughable to care at all.
aka "censorship is fine when I do it!"
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BlockAddition
03/07/23 12:50:14 PM
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s0nicfan
03/07/23 1:12:48 PM
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I haven't called it censorship here, nor in the Dahl topic. To me it's a simple question: is it okay for a publisher to alter a writer's works without their permission to change the content to remove something they find objectionable and then publish those modified works as if they are unaltered. I say no. What do you think?

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Questionmarktarius
03/07/23 1:20:23 PM
#87:


s0nicfan posted...
and then publish those modified works as if they are unaltered
I don't think that part is actually happening.
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Hornswoggled
03/07/23 1:21:12 PM
#88:


All books will only be so much tinder to fuel our fires and keep us warm after the upcoming great reckoning anyway.
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TMOG
03/07/23 2:43:44 PM
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Zikten posted...
African American is bad now?
I know plenty of black people who don't like the term because they're not from Africa and they feel like it implies they're inherently different from other Americans. Especially when somebody from, for example, Jamaica is referred to as "African American", which isn't even the right hemisphere.

Which, you know, makes perfect sense. Nobody defaults to "European American" when referring to a white person.
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GrandConjuraton
03/07/23 2:48:21 PM
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Reave314 posted...
https://twitter.com/RL_Stine/status/1632817346803904513
Wow, that's honestly pretty low, :/

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The-Apostle
03/07/23 2:48:56 PM
#92:


creativerealms posted...
I think the creator is allowed to change his work if he wants. So this isn't exactly the same thing as the other cases.
Just because he can does not mean he should.

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TMOG
03/07/23 2:49:33 PM
#93:


The-Apostle posted...
Just because he can does not mean he should.
Why
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HudGard
03/07/23 2:51:00 PM
#94:


Have you reviewed and rewritten your Game FAQs yet?

Joking aside theres probably dated cringe in my couple somewhere.

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Robot2600
03/07/23 4:55:11 PM
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i just wanna say u guys are doin a good job having a debate

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