Current Events > DO not feed the homeless in America.

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They should ignore the tickets. Unconstitutional and immoral.

Damn and they're doing that here in Houston. I'm familiar with this group they do good work. This is fucked up.

On Wednesday, volunteers still gathered in front of the downtown Houston library

Well that's just being obnoxious.
Was there no church basement nearby?

Questionmarktarius posted...

Well that's just being obnoxious.
Was there no church basement nearby?

No, that's just ignoring an illegitimate law.

Absolutely disgusting what that cop did.

And then cops wonder why people hate them

In America, or in Texas?

LightHawKnight posted...

In America, or in Texas?

Yes

Bet these cops and the politicians who came up with this law call themselves "Christians".

so there was nothing about "dont feed the homeless" just "dont feed the homeless right here" ?

congrats on manufacturing pointless outrage over nothing

Southernfatman posted...

Bet these cops and the politicians who came up with this law call themselves "Christians".

Republican Jesus said its a sin not to participate in the market economy

g980 posted...

so there was nothing about "dont feed the homeless" just "dont feed the homeless right here" ?

congrats on manufacturing pointless outrage over nothing

Every 5 minutes on this board.

Fair, next.
They say location is a mile away. Is it hard to get to or what? seems like itd be a 20min walk if a mile away?

Maybe a bunch of library goers complained?

Southernfatman posted...

Bet these cops and the politicians who came up with this law call themselves "Christians".

If Jesus was actually around today, Republicans would call him a dirty socialist and hate him

Jesus literally said to feed the hungry, and clothe the naked. Fuck off, you sacreligious pieces of shit.

mustachedmystic posted...

Jesus literally said to feed the hungry, and clothe the naked. Fuck off, you sacreligious pieces of shit.

Jimmy Carter said something along those lines, basically accusing the right of being fake Christians.

Solid_Sonic posted...

Jimmy Carter said something along those lines, basically accusing the right of being fake Christians.

And he was 100% right.

g980 posted...

so there was nothing about "dont feed the homeless" just "dont feed the homeless right here" ?

congrats on manufacturing pointless outrage over nothing

Almost 100% of the time a story comes out about feeding the homeless, it's this. Usually it's a town or township banning feeding the homeless in a public park and there's always that one person that just refuses to move somewhere else and then the whole thing gets reported as if the town is banning feeding the homeless.

What's funny is that for every single one of these stories you can look up the food banks and shelters in their area and find that often there's quite a few places where you can still feed the homeless that are actually funded by the town, but that never gets reported on. Either that, or the person refusing to move has their own home where they could feed the homeless on their front lawn but they opt not to do it there either.

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One, because when you set up food stations like that it drives the homeless towards that location and away from the legitimate shelters and food banks the city has set up. Two, those areas tend to start having issues with crime and drugs as the homeless people set up camp to be near to the food. Usually these laws are passed because people start getting attacked in public places by homeless and they need to clean up that public space so other people can use it as well.

But also, the idea that someone who is legitimately interested in feeding the homeless will only do it if they can do it in one very specific spot that happens to have a negative impact on the community isn't a very compelling excuse.

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But here, this article contains a details on the specific negative impacts that driving homelessness towards public parks causes:
https://www.nrpa.org/parks-recreation-magazine/2019/january/addressing-homelessness-in-public-parks/

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food not bombs got in trouble for pulling food out of garbage bins, not for feeding the homeless in a public space. They're a completely different situation and one of the reasons why I said "almost 100%" and not "100% of cases" because I recognize not every situation is the same.

g980 posted...

so there was nothing about "dont feed the homeless" just "dont feed the homeless right here" ?

congrats on manufacturing pointless outrage over nothing

Because homeless people are known for their great mobility right?

"No not here! Oh but there is bad too. Oh and not within 10 miles of a school! How about in the Ghetto by the garbage dump under that condemed bridge where those feral pitbulls hang out? Actually nah how about you go to the next town?"

And the republicans claims to be the party of Jesus/party of Christians, what a fucking joke. They're all bunch of fake Christians.

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All the things you're suggesting we should fix have nothing to do with whether you feed the homeless at a church vs a park. You haven't said anything that justifies why it has to be THERE and not somewhere nearby.

And what's being said ISN'T "if you feed them they won't go away"... what's being said is "If you feed them HERE is creates problems but if you feed them THERE it doesn't" and your argument against that is "well maybe they should just eliminate homelessness if they don't want needles in playgrounds and late night assaults". You're the kind of person who responds to "the city has a half dozen shelters" with "well but the rules are too strict" like you're helping somehow.

oi you gotta loicense to feed the homeless?

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

If Jesus was actually around today, Republicans would call him a dirty socialist and hate him

You don't know jack shit about Christianity. Socialists take money through force. Christians are to voluntarily give their money out of love for God and for their neighbors.

Questionmarktarius posted...

Well that's just being obnoxious.
Was there no church basement nearby?

Feeding people in a central location(making it easier for people in need) in front of a building most people consider obsolete due to the internet is obnoxious to you?

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See, here's where I get frustrated whenever the topic of homelessness comes up because critical thought stops the second it comes to something inconvenient.

Like, the solution to having a deal with feeding homeless people somewhere else was "fix the problem of homelessness in general", but your solution to shelters being too dangerous is... nothing and effectively concedes that they're not useful enough so homeless should just go wherever they want. Put the same level of effort you put into being angry at towns making homeless get fed in other places towards actually improving the conditions of homeless shelters and we wouldn't even need to be having this argument.

And the argument around people freely being able to eat at the park isn't the same as freely being able to feed other people. Normally you need a business license to serve food at all, so setting up a feeding station is already a violation that people are turning a blind eye towards. Then you talk about the park being a public place that homeless people have every right to be there, but nobody's legally allowed to live in the park, nor are they legally allowed to do illegal substances in the park, so your entire argument that they have a right to be there only works if you quietly acknowledge that you're allowing them to do all the things that are illegal for everyone in the park. So you simultaneously want to argue that they should be allowed in the park because other people can eat in the park, while also conceding that we should ignore the laws that are being violated at the park that other people aren't violating simply because they're already there. It's a double standard setup to ensure that homeless people can go and do whatever they want independent of what other people can do, but the moment you restrict that to be in line with what other people aren't allowed to do suddenly it's a violation of their freedom.

I'm not saying homeless people don't have it bad, and I'm not saying we shouldn't continue to address the problem. What I am saying, and will continue to say, is that not allowing them to be fed in public parks isn't the giant violation of their freedoms that it's being framed as, and is it itself a convenient excuse to completely ignore the fact that time and money and resources are being dedicated towards actual shelters and actual food banks that we should be driving these people towards rather than just turning a blind eye towards the damage they're doing and letting them do whatever they want.

"Shelters aren't safe enough, so rather than focus on improving shelter conditions we should just allow homeless people to set up camp wherever they want" is not and will never be an actual compelling argument.

I dont think homeless are banned from parks? Like, they arent locked to shelters. They just cant obviously linger on property just for sanctuary.

Like, I work at a bank downtown. We have homeless who come by a lot. Theyd sleep outside our entrance overnight because we have an awning protecting from weather.

We didnt care, but they like wont move when we ask. So we have to call authorities.

I think a similar thing happens elsewhere. Like I dunno what folks are sposed to do if when they allow the homeless to do something, they unfortunately take advantage of it.

Homelessness isn't the same as ethnicity, and if the angle you're trying to take is "you're basically the same as a racist for wanting homeless in shelters and not in parks" then you can just fuck right off and we're done here.

You can't force a group to stay in one place, but that doesn't mean you have to take all the free resources that place offers and just spread it out all over the place because its too restricting to the person getting free food and shelter by making them go to one place. Shelters ARE a choice, and if a homeless person chooses cold and starvation over warmth and food that doesn't mean we're depriving them of anything other than the consequences of their own decisions.

Paragon21XX posted...

You don't know jack shit about Christianity. Socialists take money through force. Christians are to voluntarily give their money out of love for God and for their neighbors.

Jesus said "Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's"
In case it isnt painfully obvious, it means pay your taxes.