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bigblu89 03/01/23 11:45:06 AM #103:	Gwynevere posted... Yeah, good luck getting any design jobs within the energy sector without at least a 4 year degree. Thats exactly what I said. A lot of jobs require a degree, but many dont even ask what the degree is in. Yes, theres specialty jobs that require certain degrees, obviously. But do a quick job search and look at how many jobs have a requirement of just Bachelors Degree. --- It takes zero effort to be a good person. <cite>bigblu89 posted [p:971883819] in Republican... [t:80363716]...</cite> <quote>Gwynevere posted... </cite><quote>Yeah, good luck getting any design jobs within the energy sector without at least a 4 year degree.</quote>Thats exactly what I said. A lot of jobs require a degree, but many dont even ask what the degree is in. Yes, theres specialty jobs that require certain degrees, obviously. But do a quick job search and look at how many jobs have a requirement of just Bachelors Degree. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 03/01/23 11:46:08 AM #104:	ToteAll posted... --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:971883836] in Republican... [t:80363716]...</cite> <quote>ToteAll posted... </cite><quote></quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 03/01/23 1:23:33 PM #105:	Prismsblade posted... No, and joining the army today isn't as risky anymore as you seem to believe. A) So if you don't believe this should be a thing, why are you arguing college loans should be abolished in favor of it? B) I'm not sure that "we lowered the risk of injury and death you must endure for two years" is a great argument... <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:971886008] in Republican... [t:80363716]...</cite> <quote>Prismsblade posted... </cite><quote>No, and joining the army today isn't as risky anymore as you seem to believe.</quote>A) So if you don't believe this should be a thing, why are you arguing college loans should be abolished in favor of it?B) I'm not sure that "we lowered the risk of injury and death you must endure for two years" is a great argument...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gwynevere 03/01/23 1:28:51 PM #106:	ToteAll posted... Sounds like an oversaturated market. So you think we should let people with no thermal, electrical, or structrual design experience or education start working on our power generation equipment? What could possibly go wrong? And no, for the record; there's still lots of room for growth and opportunity in that field. One thing we dont need less of in the US is engineers atm --- A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream [She/they] <cite>Gwynevere posted [p:971886126] in Republican... [t:80363716]...</cite> <quote>ToteAll posted... </cite><quote>Sounds like an oversaturated market.</quote>So you think we should let people with no thermal, electrical, or structrual design experience or education start working on our power generation equipment?What could possibly go wrong?And no, for the record; there's still lots of room for growth and opportunity in that field. One thing we dont need less of in the US is engineers atm</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bigblu89 03/01/23 1:47:09 PM #108:	Gwynevere posted... So you think we should let people with no thermal, electrical, or structrual design experience or education start working on our power generation equipment? What could possibly go wrong? And no, for the record; there's still lots of room for growth and opportunity in that field. One thing we dont need less of in the US is engineers atm OK. But thats a very specific field that needs specific training and education. Thats like saying you cant be a doctor on a liberal arts degree. Well, no shit. But for your average sales, QA, or other random jobs, all you need is that piece of paper saying you passed college. A piece of paper thats proves nothing, because you end up getting trained for whatever job you get. --- It takes zero effort to be a good person. <cite>bigblu89 posted [p:971886512] in Republican... [t:80363716]...</cite> <quote>Gwynevere posted... </cite><quote>So you think we should let people with no thermal, electrical, or structrual design experience or education start working on our power generation equipment?What could possibly go wrong?And no, for the record; there's still lots of room for growth and opportunity in that field. One thing we dont need less of in the US is engineers atm</quote>OK. But thats a very specific field that needs specific training and education. Thats like saying you cant be a doctor on a liberal arts degree. Well, no shit. But for your average sales, QA, or other random jobs, all you need is that piece of paper saying you passed college. A piece of paper thats proves nothing, because you end up getting trained for whatever job you get. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gwynevere 03/01/23 2:48:30 PM #109:	ToteAll posted... Thinking engineers are the only ones that should be working on those is a huge part of the problem my dude. I dont consider it a problem that high temperature, high pressure systems are being worked on by people who are trained to work on them. And yes, that training should include education from an ABET accredited program. However, I also believe that people should not be priced out of access to these programs. As a side note, what's your experience in this field, if you feel comfortable making judgements on who should be suitable to do the jobs? --- A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream [She/they] <cite>Gwynevere posted [p:971887705] in Republican... [t:80363716]...</cite> <quote>ToteAll posted... </cite><quote>Thinking engineers are the only ones that should be working on those is a huge part of the problem my dude.</quote>I dont consider it a problem that high temperature, high pressure systems are being worked on by people who are trained to work on them. And yes, that training should include education from an ABET accredited program. However, I also believe that people should not be priced out of access to these programs.As a side note, what's your experience in this field, if you feel comfortable making judgements on who should be suitable to do the jobs?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
meralonne 03/01/23 2:54:23 PM #110:	I took out a student loan to pay for college. I paid my loans in full. I am pro- student loan forgiveness. I can live with not receiving a benefit that someone else does because I'm not a crybaby. --- "Sigs are for dorks."-- my wife <cite>meralonne posted [p:971887799] in Republican... [t:80363716]...</cite> <quote>I took out a student loan to pay for college. I paid my loans in full.I am pro- student loan forgiveness. I can live with not receiving a benefit that someone else does because I'm not a crybaby.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Prismsblade 03/01/23 3:20:14 PM #113:	Ruvan22 posted... A) So if you don't believe this should be a thing, why are you arguing college loans should be abolished in favor of it? B) I'm not sure that "we lowered the risk of injury and death you must endure for two years" is a great argument... I wasn't it's the differance between something being reasonable or stupid even. so yes, it is. --- 3DS FC:3368-5403-9633 Name: Kaizer PSN: Blackkaizer <cite>Prismsblade posted [p:971888355] in Republican... [t:80363716]...</cite> <quote>Ruvan22 posted... </cite><quote>A) So if you don't believe this should be a thing, why are you arguing college loans should be abolished in favor of it?B) I'm not sure that "we lowered the risk of injury and death you must endure for two years" is a great argument...</quote>I wasn'tit's the differance between something being reasonable or stupid even. so yes, it is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gwynevere 03/01/23 3:26:49 PM #114:	ToteAll posted... So, just to be clear, are you doubling down on "only engineers should work on power generation equipment"? Only engineers should be involved in the design of power generation equipment, yes. Not sure why you're acting like that's a controversial take that I'm doubling down on. --- A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream [She/they] <cite>Gwynevere posted [p:971888514] in Republican... [t:80363716]...</cite> <quote>ToteAll posted... </cite><quote>So, just to be clear, are you doubling down on "only engineers should work on power generation equipment"?</quote>Only engineers should be involved in the design of power generation equipment, yes. Not sure why you're acting like that's a controversial take that I'm doubling down on.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bigblu89 03/01/23 3:31:06 PM #115:	Gwynevere posted... Only engineers should be involved in the design of power generation equipment, yes. Not sure why you're acting like that's a controversial take that I'm doubling down on. I think you kinda veered off the path a bit here beyond the original idea of College not really being necessary for most higher end jobs that a majority of people do. --- It takes zero effort to be a good person. <cite>bigblu89 posted [p:971888626] in Republican... [t:80363716]...</cite> <quote>Gwynevere posted... </cite><quote>Only engineers should be involved in the design of power generation equipment, yes. Not sure why you're acting like that's a controversial take that I'm doubling down on.</quote>I think you kinda veered off the path a bit here beyond the original idea of College not really being necessary for most higher end jobs that a majority of people do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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meralonne 03/01/23 3:59:41 PM #117:	Gwynevere posted... As a side note, what's your experience in this field, if you feel comfortable making judgements on who should be suitable to do the jobs? I don't see that this question was addressed? --- "Sigs are for dorks."-- my wife <cite>meralonne posted [p:971889288] in Republican... [t:80363716]...</cite> <quote>Gwynevere posted... </cite><quote>As a side note, what's your experience in this field, if you feel comfortable making judgements on who should be suitable to do the jobs?</quote>I don't see that this question was addressed?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gwynevere 03/01/23 4:43:21 PM #118:	ToteAll posted... Oh so you do agree that operating, managing and mantaining the equipment should not be done exclusively by engineers, great. Weird tangent, since my original post was: Gwynevere posted... Yeah, good luck getting any design jobs within the energy sector without at least a 4 year degree. meralonne posted... I don't see that this question was addressed? It probably won't be. --- A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream [She/they] <cite>Gwynevere posted [p:971890168] in Republican... [t:80363716]...</cite> <quote>ToteAll posted... </cite><quote>Oh so you do agree that operating, managing and mantaining the equipment should not be done exclusively by engineers, great.</quote>Weird tangent, since my original post was:Gwynevere posted... </cite><quote>Yeah, good luck getting any design jobs within the energy sector without at least a 4 year degree.</quote>meralonne posted... </cite><quote>I don't see that this question was addressed?</quote>It probably won't be. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nasty_Nitro 03/01/23 4:45:43 PM #119:	Free college education would be literally be good for everybody. BUT theres always some old head ass republican talking about I suffered so everyone must suffer! republicans like when people go through hard times --- OG status Triple OG Status pipedown yung bol Im Neo Im Leo Im Desiax Clark <cite>Nasty_Nitro posted [p:971890218] in Republican... [t:80363716]...</cite> <quote>Free college education would be literally be good for everybody. BUT theres always some old head ass republican talking about I suffered so everyone must suffer! republicans like when people go through hard times</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nativengine 03/01/23 4:53:39 PM #120:	The government isnt gonna forgive my auto or house loans. They just take that shit back. Im fortunate enough to have athletic scholarships that paid for most of my college. Sorry not sorry but if you take a loan, you gotta pay that shit back. Even as a Six Nations member I didnt get any hand outs unless I went to school in Canada because my tribe that started in New York and was forced off our lands into Canada. So the US government doesnt recognize our tribe. And in Canada, they pay for our books and nothing else because we arent a natural tribe. So, pay your debts. --- Jive Turkey <cite>nativengine posted [p:971890389] in Republican... [t:80363716]...</cite> <quote>The government isnt gonna forgive my auto or house loans. They just take that shit back. Im fortunate enough to have athletic scholarships that paid for most of my college. Sorry not sorry but if you take a loan, you gotta pay that shit back. Even as a Six Nations member I didnt get any hand outs unless I went to school in Canada because my tribe that started in New York and was forced off our lands into Canada. So the US government doesnt recognize our tribe. And in Canada, they pay for our books and nothing else because we arent a natural tribe. So, pay your debts. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bigblu89 03/01/23 4:58:26 PM #121:	Gwynevere posted... Weird tangent, since my original post was: On your original post, you're speaking about a very specific job that has very specific requirements that need to be taught and certified. But lets talk about things like Sales, Quality Assurance, Billing, etc. As long as there's someone with knowledge of whatever program the company uses that can train new hires, what would a 4 year degree do to help someone in a job like that? Yet SO many times its a prerequisite for application. Like the example I gave. When my wife's job (she works in sample/specimen compliance for a pharma company) looks for new hires for Sales reps, QA Agents, etc., one of the requirements is a Bachelors Degree. Doesn't even matter what it's in. Why do you need one? Nobody knows. As I said, that 6 people she works with all have different degrees, and none of them were in any of the sciences. Make it make sense. --- It takes zero effort to be a good person. <cite>bigblu89 posted [p:971890493] in Republican... [t:80363716]...</cite> <quote>Gwynevere posted... </cite><quote>Weird tangent, since my original post was:</quote>On your original post, you're speaking about a very specific job that has very specific requirements that need to be taught and certified.But lets talk about things like Sales, Quality Assurance, Billing, etc. As long as there's someone with knowledge of whatever program the company uses that can train new hires, what would a 4 year degree do to help someone in a job like that? Yet SO many times its a prerequisite for application.Like the example I gave. When my wife's job (she works in sample/specimen compliance for a pharma company) looks for new hires for Sales reps, QA Agents, etc., one of the requirements is a Bachelors Degree. Doesn't even matter what it's in. Why do you need one? Nobody knows. As I said, that 6 people she works with all have different degrees, and none of them were in any of the sciences.Make it make sense.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gwynevere 03/01/23 4:58:54 PM #122:	nativengine posted... Sorry not sorry but if you take a loan, you gotta pay that shit back. That's up to the supreme court to decide now --- A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream [She/they] <cite>Gwynevere posted [p:971890504] in Republican... [t:80363716]...</cite> <quote>nativengine posted... </cite><quote>Sorry not sorry but if you take a loan, you gotta pay that shit back.</quote>That's up to the supreme court to decide now</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nativengine 03/01/23 5:00:19 PM #123:	Gwynevere posted... That's up to the supreme court to decide now Spoiler alert: theyll rule in favor of money --- Jive Turkey <cite>nativengine posted [p:971890530] in Republican... [t:80363716]...</cite> <quote>Gwynevere posted... </cite><quote>That's up to the supreme court to decide now</quote>Spoiler alert: theyll rule in favor of money</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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meralonne 03/01/23 5:10:12 PM #125:	No, you just didn't answer the question. --- "Sigs are for dorks."-- my wife <cite>meralonne posted [p:971890732] in Republican... [t:80363716]...</cite> <quote>No, you just didn't answer the question.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Spiderman23J 03/01/23 5:32:44 PM #126:	Nasty_Nitro posted... Free college education would be literally be good for everybody. BUT theres always some old head ass republican talking about I suffered so everyone must suffer! republicans like when people go through hard times not to mention college was like 800 a semester during that time lmao --- buss on life <cite>Spiderman23J posted [p:971891195] in Republican... [t:80363716]...</cite> <quote>Nasty_Nitro posted... </cite><quote>Free college education would be literally be good for everybody. BUT theres always some old head ass republican talking about I suffered so everyone must suffer! republicans like when people go through hard times</quote>not to mention college was like 800 a semester during that time lmao </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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