Current Events > Dying women went to hospital to save her life, they called the cops instead

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She ended up dying in police custody

Ugh, why the fuck can't I look at 18+ shit on reddit without an account!?

tl;dr on the article please

Okay, so the article says they thought she was just acting? But some of the comments are saying it's because she couldn't afford to pay the hospital...

NeonTentacles posted...

Ugh, why the fuck can't I look at 18+ shit on reddit without an account!?

tl;dr on the article please

Here you go. I'm not sure why TC linked to reddit instead of the article that's in the reddit post.

https://www.13abc.com/2023/02/27/graphic-i-am-going-die-body-camera-footage-released-womans-in-custody-death/

God damn it America. Modernize

lifespeedrunner posted...

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She ended up dying in police custody

i fucking hate hospitals.

she was having a stroke and they told her she was constipated and told her to fuck off and they went the extra mile by calling the cops on her in order to ruin her life.

then she died because of her stroke.

fuck these people, they had ONE JOB

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The conversation of the police on this one is truly horrific.

I'm not going to mince words. Those cops who were so convinced that the stroke victim was "faking it", and callously let her die, ought to just kill themselves.

They won't, because they're not capable of feeling shame or guilt, but they really ought to.

Mearcstapa posted...

I'm not going to mince words. Those cops who were so convinced that the stroke victim was "faking it", and callously let her die, ought to just kill themselves.

They won't, because they're not capable of feeling shame or guilt, but they really ought to.

and they got paid vacations for it :(

someone needs to make a study to find out if they do this sort of shut so they can get extra vacations

The entire police approach was based on the assumption that she was faking it. I see a lot of people in the reddit comments absolving the police because this was the hospital's fuck up, but both fucked up massively here

Don't know the full details of what happened in the hospital.

To play devil's advocate it happens all the time where a patient comes in with one complaint and that's all they talk about, then the next day they bring up something new and say that the new complaint is actually what's been going on for a while and their stories switch up all the time. I will also say that the only reason to be discharged when ur not stable is if someone is completely refusing care. We had a lady like that last week, she obviously needed to be in the hospital, she was in the ICU, but she refused everything, including vital signs checks, cardiac monitor, checking her oxygen, medications, imaging. There's literally nothing we can do for you if you simply refuse everything even though we've clearly explained why we're doing everything and risks and benefits of alternatives of her decisions. She was with it too, just being an asshole. So she got discharged. That's usually the most common scenario where someone who is not medically cleared for discharge ends up getting discharged and they end up making excuses and blaming the hospital.

Not saying that's what happened but giving you examples of where similar things have happened where I'd say the hospital is not at fault

NoxObscuras posted...

Okay, so the article says they thought she was just acting? But some of the comments are saying it's because she couldn't afford to pay the hospital...

Do they stop people from entering if they cant pay or acting? I mean I rarely ever go to the hospital and the last time I went, I was taking my mother to the ER due to a fall and while there was a long ass wait due to covid, they took her in without complaint.

Dan_Haren- posted...

Don't know the full details of what happened in the hospital.

Dan_Haren- posted...

Not saying that's what happened but giving you examples of where similar things have happened where I'd say the hospital is not at fault

I understand where you're coming from, but you really should at least read the article before playing devils advocate.
She was in for constipation which was previously treated. She presented with trouble breathing and had a broken ankle.
She was discharged on the assumption of "oh she's just constipated, maybe even drug seeking".
She refused to leave the hospital because she knew something was seriously wrong, and she was ignored.
The cops treated her from the get go as if she were faking, including thinking she was faking her broken fucking ankle.

Both the cops and the hospital are horribly horribly at fault here. I know strokes can be hard to identify, but she was in an entire building full of trained professionals.

Hospitals aren't allowed to turn people away because of lack of payment. It seems like they thought they treated her and wanted her discharged, but she refused to leave so they had her removed with police. It looks like malpractice more than anything.

NeonTentacles posted...

It looks like malpractice more than anything.

the death could've been prevented. somebody on either the hospital side or police deserve to pay somehow.

meestermj posted...

I understand where you're coming from, but you really should at least read the article before playing devils advocate.
She was in for constipation which was previously treated. She presented with trouble breathing and had a broken ankle.
She was discharged on the assumption of "oh she's just constipated, maybe even drug seeking".
She refused to leave the hospital because she knew something was seriously wrong, and she was ignored.
The cops treated her from the get go as if she were faking, including thinking she was faking her broken fucking ankle.

Both the cops and the hospital are horribly horribly at fault here. I know strokes can be hard to identify, but she was in an entire building full of trained professionals.

Who should the cops believe, the medical professionals they interact with on a near constant basis or the patient?

The cops aren't doctors, they're only acting based off the best information they have. Blame the medical professionals that failed to do their jobs, not the cops for merely doing their jobs.

kingdrake2 posted...

the death could've been prevented. somebody on either the hospital side or police deserve to pay somehow.

Legally the cops are probably in the clear because a higher medical authority cleared her condition when they transferred her over to them, since cops only have CPR and basic first aid training iirc.

A_Good_Boy posted...

Who should the cops believe, the medical professionals they interact with on a near constant basis or the patient?

The cops aren't doctors, they're only acting based off the best information they have. Blame the medical professionals that failed to do their jobs, not the cops for merely doing their jobs.

She was physically unable to stand, and they accused her of faking it.
She audibly has labored breathing and simply asked to be sat up because she couldn't.
They again accused her of faking and ignored her.

The cops made a huge mistake here in their treatment of her. Human compassion costs nothing. They can do their jobs without being heartless abusive fucks.
Although I'm honestly starting to question if being heartless is something the police check for in interviews.

kingdrake2 posted...

the death could've been prevented. somebody on either the hospital side or police deserve to pay somehow.

Malpractice insurance will probably pay it out and the doctor might be disciplined >_> That's probably what will happen

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What do you expect from CEs resident fake doctor?

NeonTentacles posted...

Ugh, why the fuck can't I look at 18+ shit on reddit without an account!?

old.reddit.com doesn't have the login wall, just a "are you 18?" button.

Man, I get that homeless people fake it, I once had to call 911 for a homeless guy and the emt told me they knew him and a few other homeless people in the area by name.

but if you want to be a condescending dick then be a dick and do your fucking job. At least attempt to help the woman like it wont hurt you. You have to do your job regardless

Questionmarktarius posted...

old.reddit.com doesn't have the login wall, just a "are you 18?" button.

Nice! That's how it should be. Only adults and kids who have half a brain to lie should be able to read this stuff

meestermj posted...

She was physically unable to stand, and they accused her of faking it.
She audibly has labored breathing and simply asked to be sat up because she couldn't.
They again accused her of faking and ignored her.

The cops made a huge mistake here in their treatment of her. Human compassion costs nothing. They can do their jobs without being heartless abusive fucks.

I can only imagine that cops deal with people pretending they can't move when they're being taken into custody on a near constant basis. If the doctors say she's fine then why would they assume she was being serious and actually couldn't stand instead of assume she was faking like all of the others? And when they reached in her purse to help her out because she couldn't breathe they found cigarettes in there instead of the inhaler she said she'd have. When doctors and the patients own physical affects are in disagreement with the symptoms she's presenting then why would the cops take her at face value?

A_Good_Boy posted...

When doctors and the patients own physical affects are in disagreement with the symptoms she's presenting then why would the cops take her at face value?

Because human compassion is free.
It would take them less effort to not have said the spiteful things they did.
It would have been less effort for them to simply help her sit up than to keep berating her.
It would have been less effort to simply get a different vehicle than to repeatedly try and lift her in, and bodily drop her.

At every opportunity they took the spiteful route of most resistance.

To be clear I'm not saying they should be legally liable. Only that they're terrible people with no compassion.

Why do you keep wording your posts with a bunch of 1 line paragraphs and then a line break before a final 1 line paragraph? >_>

meestermj posted...

Because human compassion is free.
It would take them less effort to not have said the spiteful things they did.
It would have been less effort for them to simply help her sit up than to keep berating her.
It would have been less effort to simply get a different vehicle than to repeatedly try and lift her in, and bodily drop her.

At every opportunity they took the spiteful route of most resistance.

They did help her sit up and they did get her a different vehicle... They're not saints, so of course they're going to complain, but they did at least do the bare minimum when they tried to take her into custody. You're expecting more out of the cops than you are out of the lying doctors that failed to do their jobs and lied to the cops about her in the first place.

A_Good_Boy posted...

They did help her sit up and they did get her a different vehicle... They're not saints, so of course they're going to complain, but they did at least do the bare minimum when they tried to take her into custody. You're expecting more out of the cops than you are out of the lying doctors that failed to do their jobs and lied to the cops about her in the first place.

They helped her once, and didn't secure her. She fell a second time, which they ignored, and she died soon after.
They only got the second vehicle after several attempts to physically lift her in, and repeatedly dropping her on the concrete.
And the shit they said was out of pocket.

If you look at my original post, I blamed the hospital just ad much. You simply focused on me calling out the horrendous treatment she got by police.

There's a reason they're currently on leave. If the department felt they had handled everything just fine they would have stated as much and just moved on.

Obviously I want the family to sue the hospital and the cops, I'm talking millions

meestermj posted...

They helped her once, and didn't secure her. She fell a second time, which they ignored, and she died soon after.
They only got the second vehicle after several attempts to physically lift her in, and repeatedly dropping her on the concrete.
And the shit they said was out of pocket.

If you look at my original post, I blamed the hospital just ad much. You simply focused on me calling out the horrendous treatment she got by police.

There's a reason they're currently on leave. If the department felt they had handled everything just fine they would have stated as much and just moved on.

You're placing way too much significance on the cops being placed on leave. Cops literally break into people's homes and shoot them and get placed on leave. Plus, this is Tennessee. It's probably nothing more than a procedural formality where they're still getting full pay.

A_Good_Boy posted...

You're placing way too much significance on the cops being placed on leave. Cops literally break into people's homes and shoot them and get placed on leave. Plus, this is Tennessee. It's probably nothing more than a procedural formality where they're still getting full pay.

And if that's the case, it's gross.
They could have done better. I'm not saying they're to blame for her death, but they are to blame for treating her like trash.
I hope the family pursues malpractice against the hospital, and I hope the officers take their time off to evaluate how they treat people.

meestermj posted...

And if that's the case, it's gross.
They could have done better. I'm not saying they're to blame for her death, but they are to blame for treating her like trash.
I hope the family pursues malpractice against the hospital, and I hope the officers take their time off to evaluate how they treat people.

I can agree with that.

NeonTentacles posted...

Nice! That's how it should be. Only adults and kids who have half a brain to lie should be able to read this stuff

Also, its only reddit on mobile, if you request the desktop site on mobile there is an 'I am 18 or older' option to get past the wall.

meestermj posted...

I understand where you're coming from, but you really should at least read the article before playing devils advocate.
She was in for constipation which was previously treated. She presented with trouble breathing and had a broken ankle.
She was discharged on the assumption of "oh she's just constipated, maybe even drug seeking".
She refused to leave the hospital because she knew something was seriously wrong, and she was ignored.
The cops treated her from the get go as if she were faking, including thinking she was faking her broken fucking ankle.

Both the cops and the hospital are horribly horribly at fault here. I know strokes can be hard to identify, but she was in an entire building full of trained professionals.

That's what she tells you but it's also entirely possible that she told them in the ED that she was constipated and never complained of breathing problems or any other problems while she was there, until she got discharged.

That's what I'm saying,this happens all the time and anyone who works in a hospital knows this.

Eramir posted...

Obviously I want the family to sue the hospital and the cops, I'm talking millions

They'll sue, malpractice will offer to settle for what is a "reasonable amount" (which in this case will largely depend on the woman's age an quality of life, IE how long she had left to live and how much money she might earn in that time frame) and if the family doesn't take it they will get buried in lawyers. Even if they win it will take years and the end result probably won't be very high unless its in a state with uncapped punitive damages.

Police will not be held liable here at all. As fucked up as it is, the hospital told them nothing was wrong with her and that they weren't treating her further. I sincerely hope none of them get a peaceful night's sleep again because her dying sounds haunt them but legally? Nothing will happen

Great healthcare

Just a few bad apples, amirite?

While I'm sure emergency response people have to deal with nonsense and drama queens all the time, every single case should be treated with seriousness unless they get an absolute admission of it being nonsense. That isn't the kind of job where you half ass shit because you're annoyed.

ACAB and the medical system is complete shitshow.

SquantoZ posted...

ACAB and the medical system is complete shitshow.

every single time I have been in the ER there is always a cop inside (where the beds are), sitting on his ass, sometimes pointing the phone at the people on the beds (patients), maybe filming them, being unprofessional, etc.

it makes me feel unsafe as fuck. The ER is supposed to be a health area, a place to recover. You dont want to worry about some man on a power trying trying to find an excuse to fuck up your life