Current Events > DeSantis is pushing a fascist takeover of higher education in Florida

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legendary_zell
02/25/23 11:14:29 AM
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After Ron DeSantiss months of attacks on colleges, schools, teachers, librarians, and students, the Florida governor is now pushing a sweeping legislation package that further threatens academic freedom at Florida universities.

House Bill 999 presents radical concentrations of power, taking liberties away from students and teachers and instead subjecting them to constant surveillance and paranoia for simply trying to embrace a fulsome education.

The bill calls for the removal of degrees in gender studies and critical race theory (or any derivative major or minor of these belief systems, perhaps left intentionally ambiguous) and bars anything else that promotes diversity, equity, and inclusion. The bill also prohibits universities from promoting, supporting, or maintaining any program or campus activities that espouse diversity, equity, and inclusion or Critical Race Theory rhetoric.

The bill additionally directs university boards of trustees to be responsible for faculty hiring, and reads that a faculty members tenure could be reviewed at any time. In a vacuum, that may not seem inherently bad; given the chiling nature of the rest of the bill (and the broader Florida academic context), such a note suggests a regime eager to threaten tenure loss for those who step out of bounds.

If that all wasnt enough, the bill also says that general education courses may not suppress or distort significant historical events or include a curriculum that teaches identity politics, such as Critical Race Theory, or defines American history as contrary to the creation of a new nation based on universal principles stated in the Declaration of Independence. And they ought to promote the philosophical underpinnings of Western civilization.

These general education courses further must promote the values necessary to preserve the constitutional republic through traditional, historically accurate, and high-quality coursework, and cannot be based on unproven, theoretical, or exploratory content.

The standards are largely to be overseen by the state Board of Education and Board of Governorsbodies whose members are appointed by the governor. And so determinations of what does and does not constitute diversity, equity, and inclusion, or values necessary to preserve the constitutional republic, or even accurate are all ill-defined, amorphous, and ambiguous enough for Governor DeSantiss authoritarian regime to carry out its desire to carve away any chance for Florida students to maintain a holistic and open-minded education.

House Bill 999 is indeed a focused continuation of DeSantiss assault against academic freedom. But it is also a broader test: about how much power an aspirational fascist state executive can openly accumulate in America.

http://newrepublic.com/post/170770/florida-republicans-new-bill-may-biggest-attack-academic-freedom-yet

Stolen shamelessly from McSame_as_Bush. This has me big big mad. I don't think this article even does justice to just how fascist this is. This is a personal and ideological takeover of higher education in Florida. He and people he hires get to decide who can teach based on their ideology, without the ability of people like professors, other staff, and likely students to provide a check. They get to decide what materials, subject matter, and schools of thought comply with the values they want to promote and what doesn't.

Of course they're going to use this to produce their ideal jingoistic, ahistorical, money grubbing, blinkered citizen. They don't even want society to have the option or space to think of any alternative to what they enforce.


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Lord_Shadow
02/25/23 11:19:38 AM
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Didn't this guy do human Trafficking they need to just arrest this guy


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Rathinor
02/25/23 11:20:16 AM
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I can't see how anyone with at least half a brain can still vote Republican
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Kloe_Rinz
02/25/23 11:23:23 AM
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Why are republicans not even trying to hide how evil they are anymore
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stage4saiyan
02/25/23 11:29:29 AM
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Wrong board, OP.

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ScazarMeltex
02/25/23 11:29:32 AM
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This greatly resembles a specific time period in history but I will get modded if I make that direct comparison.

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Rathinor
02/25/23 11:30:30 AM
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stage4saiyan posted...
Wrong board, OP.
How so? It's a current event
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Biofighter55
02/25/23 11:32:56 AM
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Small government, right, thats what republicans are supposed to be?

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legendary_zell
02/25/23 11:33:03 AM
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Rathinor posted...
How so? It's a current event

That guy doesn't feel like he can defend it currently so he's attempting to deflect by shitting himself publicly. Lets ignore the fool and talk about how DeSantis is doing fascism.

Ron DeSantis and the Florida Republicans are doing fascism and must be stopped. Tennessee Republicans as well. They're implementing a central feature of fascism: when given power, they say that certain types of people (LGBT people, professors, minorities, women) and certain types of thought (anything that does not glorify the nation, whiteness, Christianity, or the market) are the source of bad things in society and that certain types of people are being ideological just by existing in public (LGBT people, women). Their response is to strip rights from these people, surveille them, criminalize them, remove them from public life and public influence. That's exactly what they're doing nationwide, right now.

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stage4saiyan
02/25/23 11:33:57 AM
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legendary_zell posted...
That guy doesn't feel like he can defend it currently so he's attempting to deflect by shitting himself publicly. Lets ignore the fool and talk about how DeSantis is doing fascism.

Ron DeSantis and the Florida Republicans are doing fascism and must be stopped.
Theres a politics board.

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b_nolan
02/25/23 11:35:07 AM
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stage4saiyan posted...
Theres a politics board.
Politics get talked about all the time here....deal with it

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Biofighter55
02/25/23 11:37:21 AM
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stage4saiyan posted...
Theres a politics board.

its also a current event, if you wanna get technical about it

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itachi15243
02/25/23 11:38:49 AM
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stage4saiyan posted...
Theres a politics board.

So you're saying that this isn't a current event? Not like there's an ironclad rule that politics can't be discussed here. Pretty major current events and such

Either way, fuck that facist monster. It's clear that he and all of his followers have chosen fascism and decided not to look back. Anyone who votes republican is decidedly against what this country stands for at this point.

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Jagr_68
02/25/23 11:38:57 AM
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Rathinor posted...
I can't see how anyone with at least half a brain can still vote Republican

Think of it like an old infomercial and you'll understand...

"HI BILLY MAYS HERE! Do you hate black people, latinos, gays, and many many more (non-white, non-traditionalists)?!"

It's that easy

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Gwynevere
02/25/23 11:53:37 AM
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What we're going to start seeing is educated people and professionals heading to blue states in droves as these wannabe dictators encroach more on school systems. I myself got an engineering and physics degree and will be getting the fuck out of MO very shortly.

It's just not going to be worth it for many that have the means to leave.

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Gritty
02/25/23 12:08:32 PM
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Rathinor posted...
I can't see how anyone with at least half a brain can still vote Republican

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Gritty
02/25/23 12:09:22 PM
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stage4saiyan posted...
Theres a politics board.
This is a very obvious deflection
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hockeybub89
02/25/23 12:10:33 PM
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So much for free speech

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Ruvan22
02/25/23 12:17:02 PM
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I am *NOT* trying to minimize or handwave this by asking the following question - how likely is this to pass given the current composition of the FL state congress etc? I ask because I know a lot of bills get put forward by state level officials to create uproar with little chance of passing, but DeSantis is a governor AND has gotten things passed in the past...
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DD_Divine
02/25/23 12:20:17 PM
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Sounds like too much government to me

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legendary_zell
02/25/23 12:21:19 PM
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Ruvan22 posted...
I am *NOT* trying to minimize or handwave this by asking the following question - how likely is this to pass given the current composition of the FL state congress etc? I ask because I know a lot of bills get put forward by state level officials to create uproar with little chance of passing, but DeSantis is a governor AND has gotten things passed in the past...

Republicans have a more than 2 to 1 advantage in both houses of their legislature. The only way this doesn't pass is if Dems are completely unified and a significant number of Republicans recognize that this is too far. And even that doesn't mean that a toned down version won't pass or that the whole thing won't pass later.

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ScazarMeltex
02/25/23 12:26:55 PM
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SaintArnold posted...
Yeah, DeSantis is a bad dude. I kinda agree with his views on trans people.
What views might those be?

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Rathinor
02/25/23 12:30:19 PM
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SaintArnold posted...
I kinda agree with his views on trans people
You believe they shouldn't have rights?
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Jagr_68
02/25/23 12:38:16 PM
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SaintArnold posted...
Yeah, DeSantis is a bad dude. I kinda agree with his views on trans people. But, it does go a step too far and onto big government.

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Gamespoht
02/25/23 12:40:11 PM
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This fucking scumbag is trying to set my state back 50 years as of there wasn't already issues to begin with

Can't focus on real shit like homelessness, gun control and healthcare, but making things worse for people of color and the lgbtq? That's where the monies at

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Doom_Art
02/25/23 12:46:43 PM
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stage4saiyan posted...
Theres a politics board.
Go back to /pol/

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Gremlynn
02/25/23 12:49:17 PM
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Wow. Not sure anybody can say did not see thiscoming tho.

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hockeybub89
02/25/23 12:50:08 PM
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SaintArnold posted...
Yeah, DeSantis is a bad dude. I kinda agree with his views on trans people. But, it does go a step too far and onto big government.
Show me the small government way to do anything about trans people besides shutting the fuck up

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famfam
02/25/23 1:08:47 PM
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Rathinor posted...
I can't see how anyone with at least half a brain can still vote Republican

they don't
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andel
02/25/23 1:20:58 PM
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desantis is trying to get his scumbag bonafides as quickly as possible to run for potus. personally i can't wait until him and trump tear each other a part so biden can annihilate whoever survives the gop primary.

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WalkingLobsters
02/25/23 1:23:36 PM
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newrepublic.com


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the_pika
02/25/23 1:23:44 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


the handmaids tale was supposed to be fiction, not a documentary
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Rathinor
02/25/23 1:24:54 PM
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WalkingLobsters posted...
newrepublic.com
You were (are?) a Trump slurper, why should anyone take you seriously? Especially when you do nothing to argue the content of the bill itself, just the site the article came from
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the_pika
02/25/23 1:26:19 PM
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stage4saiyan posted...
Theres a politics board.

this is also a current event

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CADE_FOSTER
02/25/23 1:28:42 PM
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Biden is meh but if this dude wins in 2024 we all lose fascism will take over
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the_pika
02/25/23 2:38:59 PM
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CADE_FOSTER posted...
Biden is meh but if this dude wins in 2024 we all lose fascism will take over

that wont stop the enlightened centrists, moderates, non-political voters, bear mommas and true progressives who either wont vote for Biden or who will vote for trump/desantis.
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Zikten
02/25/23 2:43:55 PM
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How is this even legal? This seems like something that goes against federal laws
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hockeybub89
02/25/23 2:47:21 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

It's a bold move, Cotton

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Shadow_Don
02/25/23 2:49:06 PM
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Zikten posted...
How is this even legal? This seems like something that goes against federal laws

Doesn't matter to them.

They are just flinging shit at the wall to bend and break our institutions and see what sticks.

Thats what happens when your DOJ sits on its hands and let's these ghouls get away with everything.

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nurleschka
02/25/23 2:49:48 PM
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Tenure existing is a joke but the rest of that can fuck itself with a rusty soup can
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CADE_FOSTER
02/25/23 2:57:32 PM
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Garland is a clown glad he isnt a supreme court justice he has done nothing
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the_pika
02/25/23 2:59:15 PM
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Shadow_Don posted...


Thats what happens when your DOJ sits on its hands and let's these ghouls get away with everything.

Garland, the Republican MVP, leader of the MAGA resistance.

I hope that Biden appoints someone else if he gets re-elected
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the_pika
02/25/23 3:03:13 PM
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CADE_FOSTER posted...
Garland is a clown glad he isnt a supreme court justice he has done nothing


Garland reminds me a lot of Reinfeld from Dracula.

he was a loyal servant to his master Dracula (trump/MAGA) and even when said master fucked him over real bad (reinfeld ended in an asylum, garland didnt get his scotus seat) he remained loyal and pathetically subservient to the bitter end
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