Current Events > Why don't you like Jordan Peterson?

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His politics are terrible.

The thing that gets me with Jordan Peterson is that if he didn't go into politics or crazy ideas he could have been remembered as the guy who helped lonely, depressed, and suicidal men when nobody else would.

Remember that Hey Arnold episode where the city councilman used a lot of big phrases and charisma to make himself sound smarter and more beneficial to society than he actually was, and then once they actually digested what he was saying and put him on the spot, they realized he didn't know what the fuck he was talking about?

That.

Isnt he outspoken against trans people?

• Vaccine conspiracy theorist
• Denies climate change
• Wants to ban ALL gender affirming healthcare
• Thinks women don't belong in the workplace

He once went on joe rogan and talked about how drinking an apple juice put him into a near coma. No, I'm not joking.

Its not even that I disagree with all of his politics, its that he is a total clown and I'm embarrassed for anyone who listens to him seriously.

Do not take advice on how to be masculine from a man who couldn't handle the contents of a kindergartener's lunchbox.

I got a weird question that might not make some sense but do you use the word ideology often??

he also has this weird cult around him

I also think that applies to both his fans and his critics to be fair.

Yeah I completely accept that. I also think that applies to both his fans and his critics to be fair.

I don't trust anyone that films themselves crying as much as Peterson has. Dude cries on camera every other day. Literal tears.

Ive just watched the clip. It was about cider, not kids apple juice so if you are going to bring up evidence then at least be factually correct.

it very much does not apply to his critics.

Id say this topic is a prime example of his critics being that way. Despite me asking for reasons why people dislike him without resorting to personal attacks, a good proportion of the posts do just that.

My bad.

He almost went into a coma from sipping an apple cider, not an apple juice.

Lmfao

Id say this topic is a prime example of his critics being that way. Despite me asking for reasons why people dislike him without resorting to personal attacks, a good proportion of the posts do just that.

Id say this topic is a prime example of his critics being that way. Despite me asking for reasons why people dislike him without resorting to personal attacks, a good proportion of the posts do just that.

Id say this topic is a prime example of his critics being that way. Despite me asking for reasons why people dislike him without resorting to personal attacks, a good proportion of the posts do just that.

You unironically used the word "detox" so I don't think you have any standing here.
CE is full of degenerates, but at least most of us agree that Peterson is unworthy of respect.

without resorting to personal attacks

Isnt he very open about his mental health issues? I personally dont think crying is something to be ashamed of not being open about your own struggles. I actually find it pretty refreshing personally but I might be biased as Ive struggled with depression in the past and opening up about my issues.

I dont see the issue with using the word detox. Would you have preferred it if I said cutting out crappy food / drugs instead?

Again this just feels like cheap point scoring and doesnt answer my original post at all.

the personal attacks have merit though. they're perfectly valid reasons not to like him. he is very much an idiot, a liar, an awful therapist, a grifter, and a transphobic fear-mongerer.

Here is a prime example right here. I posted a fair bit of text which I felt like gave his comments a lot more context but people just want to go with the cheap point scoring.

you completely ignored 4 of my 5 initial points against him, none of which are personal attacks.

I dont see the issue with using the word detox. Would you have preferred it if I said cutting out crappy food / drugs instead?

Again this just feels like cheap point scoring and doesnt answer my original post at all.

Food detoxing is not a real thing.
Changing your diet is valid, dependent on personal health.
Buzzwords like "detox" are actively harmful and misleading.
You can't "detox" foods because your body already naturally does that.
You honestly aren't presenting any valid points for him, and that's because there aren't any.
He isnt a good therapist, factually.
He is frequently wrong about lgbt issues.
He is wrong (re current societal norms) regarding gender roles, and often ascribes to toxic Masculinity.
He is anti vaccine, which should tell you everything you need to know.

He is a grifter, a conman, and harmful to a rational society.