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CableZL
02/16/23 1:10:19 PM
#52:


Mr_hulk88 posted...
...i'm saying I don't want Marvel tv and movies. I want other tv and movies.

Are there not plenty of other TV shows and movies?

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OudeGeuze
02/16/23 1:12:32 PM
#53:


Mr_hulk88 posted...
...i'm saying I don't want Marvel tv and movies. I want other tv and movies.
So what should marvel's tv an movie division spend their money on besides marvel tv and movies?
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creativerealms
02/16/23 1:14:00 PM
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Bad movies alone won't destroy the franchise. Some huge franchises have only bad movies.


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creativerealms
02/16/23 1:15:02 PM
#55:


Mr_hulk88 posted...
...i'm saying I don't want Marvel tv and movies. I want other tv and movies.
And the Marvel stuff isn't stopping other things from being made.

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HylianFox
02/16/23 1:19:30 PM
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People always say "zomg MCU is finished" whenever a movie/show doesn't get glowing reviews

They have enough money to keep pumping these out until the end of time....
>_>

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masterpug53
02/16/23 1:20:03 PM
#57:


OudeGeuze posted...
So what should marvel's tv an movie division spend their money on besides marvel tv and movies?

Obviously they should be putting that money into the kind of original big-budget blockbusters we had in a better time, before the MCU's dominance. Like Cutthroat Island. Or Ballistic: Ecks vs Sever. Or Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within. Or Battlefield: Earth. Or Ishtar. Or...

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FortuneCookie
02/16/23 1:21:21 PM
#58:


creativerealms posted...
Bad movies alone won't destroy the franchise. Some huge franchises have only bad movies.

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Smashingpmkns
02/16/23 1:22:25 PM
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Feige just announced they're pushing back the release of a few of the MCU shows. Only 2 shows are airing this year iirc. I'm pretty sure their testing probably indicated some amount of franchise fatigue and they're trying to avoid another Star Wars situation.

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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy
02/16/23 1:24:09 PM
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Also, Thor 2 sucked, Iron Man 2 sucked, I didn't like the original Captain America all that much, Wakanda Forever wasn't great, Eternals was kinda weird.

When we are like 30 movies in, some are not going to be as strong as others.

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Xerun
02/16/23 1:40:51 PM
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Watched it yesterday. Its not in their top tier of movies but its far from the worst

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Mr_hulk88
02/16/23 1:41:33 PM
#62:


OudeGeuze posted...
So what should marvel's tv an movie division spend their money on besides marvel tv and movies?
Lol are you okay? I'm talking about the movie industry not MARVEL. Jesus.

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Mr_hulk88
02/16/23 1:43:17 PM
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The fact that you see it as Hollywood = Marvel is exactly my point. And it's what's sad.
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OudeGeuze
02/16/23 1:44:05 PM
#64:


Mr_hulk88 posted...
Lol are you okay? I'm talking about the movie industry not MARVEL. Jesus.
What you said makes zero sense

"It takes resources away from other things"

Marvel is spending money on Marvel. How is Marvel spending money on their own property taking resources away from other movies?
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Cobra1010
02/16/23 1:44:24 PM
#65:


boxoto posted...
I hope Marvel gets desperate, and releases an X-Men movie sooner rather than later.

I think xmen movies are naturally hard to get right. It's like an avengers movie right off the bat. It'll likely fail like snyder justice league. Do you think they'll need to do some standalone mutant movies before going full xmen?

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lolife67
02/16/23 1:44:37 PM
#66:


Mr_hulk88 posted...
Lol are you okay? I'm talking about the movie industry not MARVEL. Jesus.
But the movie industry does make new movies and tv shows now. So how does Marvel not making shows and movies make other studios make more?
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CableZL
02/16/23 1:45:36 PM
#67:


Cobra1010 posted...
I think xmen movies are naturally hard to get right. It's like an avengers movie right off the bat. It'll likely fail like snyder justice league. Do you think they'll need to do some standalone mutant movies before going full xmen?

They're slowly trickling mutants into the MCU now. They've introduced at least three, with two of them being directly referred to as mutants in one way or another.

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Prestoff
02/16/23 1:48:04 PM
#68:


Cthulhu_Fhtagn posted...
I don't get these people who want it to die. Watch something else. A ton of other movies are still coming out. I'm probably done with MCU too after DS2 but I don't want it to die if people are still entertained by it

On the internet ,it's not "like what you love" but "destroy what you hate".

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Mr_hulk88
02/16/23 1:51:30 PM
#69:


OudeGeuze posted...
What you said makes zero sense

"It takes resources away from other things"

Marvel is spending money on Marvel. How is Marvel spending money on their own property taking resources away from other movies?

Are you being purposely dense? Marvel taking up 80% of space in the film industry affects the possibilities and standards for other productions.

Of course non Marvel-DC productions are still being made, duh, but the room for experimenting has been absolutely reduced.
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HylianFox
02/16/23 1:54:46 PM
#70:


CableZL posted...
They're slowly trickling mutants into the MCU now. They've introduced at least three, with two of them being directly referred to as mutants in one way or another.

All I want is for Deadpool and Wolverine to bang in DP3

I get wet every time I see Reynolds and Jackman together...

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lolife67
02/16/23 2:09:25 PM
#71:


Mr_hulk88 posted...
Marvel taking up 80% of space in the film industry affects the possibilities and standards for other productions.
I think the issue is that they don't actually take up anywhere near that much space. So complaining about them comes off as kind of dumb.
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--Zero-
02/16/23 2:17:41 PM
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Nah critics are extremely bias so when they get tired of something its pretty obvious. Tons of movies where critics were harsh most of us have fond memories of and enjoy. Let the audience score speak for that.

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--Zero-
02/16/23 2:21:54 PM
#73:


X-men would be better as a TV series to slowly introduce the characters. Then do a movie for a big event when audiences are used to them.

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Mr_hulk88
02/16/23 3:10:58 PM
#75:


lolife67 posted...
I think the issue is that they don't actually take up anywhere near that much space.

Lol.

Unless you were born around 2012 when the MCU mess started and hence don't have a point of comparison, I don't get why you would make this strange statement.

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LightHawKnight
02/16/23 3:14:26 PM
#76:


lolife67 posted...
I think the issue is that they don't actually take up anywhere near that much space. So complaining about them comes off as kind of dumb.

Not to mention, isnt Marvel literally holding up movie theaters or at least did during covid?

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Mr_hulk88
02/16/23 3:17:03 PM
#77:


LightHawKnight posted...
Not to mention, isnt Marvel literally holding up movie theaters or at least did during covid?
No.
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Bigpapaplut
02/16/23 3:17:50 PM
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If only but unfortunately not. Not even close
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Jerry_Hellyeah
02/16/23 3:45:04 PM
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Itt: People with zero taste or artistic sensibilities using Marvel as a scapegoat for their own lack of taste or lack of interest in more thoughtful films.

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Background_Guy
02/16/23 3:50:19 PM
#80:


Mr_hulk88 posted...
Are you being purposely dense? Marvel taking up 80% of space in the film industry affects the possibilities and standards for other productions.

Of course non Marvel-DC productions are still being made, duh, but the room for experimenting has been absolutely reduced.
There are thousands of movies coming out a year, more than ever before due to streaming. Have you even watched all the best picture nominees?
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008Zulu
02/16/23 3:57:25 PM
#81:


Was planning to brave my local cinema to watch this on the big screen, but I think that I will instead just wait for Disney+.

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Supersex420
02/16/23 3:58:13 PM
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I does feel like variety has suffered since the MCU started, but I'm not a huge movie guy

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Jerry_Hellyeah
02/16/23 4:06:49 PM
#83:


Yeah how dare Marvel invent the concept of a film franchise. DESPICABLE.

FATF

LOTR

SW

HP

MI

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GrandConjuraton
02/16/23 4:09:11 PM
#84:


Irony posted...
I wish


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McMarbles
02/16/23 4:10:02 PM
#85:


Irony posted...
No I'm tired of super hero movies
Pssst
You don't actually have to watch them or engage with them in any way.

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Mr_hulk88
02/16/23 4:24:37 PM
#86:


Background_Guy posted...
There are thousands of movies coming out a year, more than ever before due to streaming.
Lool. Quantity isn't = quality. Netflix requiring to release "a movie" every two weeks isn't actually a good thing.

Have you even watched all the best picture nominees?
Yup. So?

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Mr_hulk88
02/16/23 4:25:02 PM
#87:


McMarbles posted...
Pssst
You don't actually have to watch them or engage with them in any way.
Pssst. It's not about not watching them. It's about them blocking the view.
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VeggetaX
02/16/23 4:39:35 PM
#88:


Man comic book movies ruining lives here

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Mr_hulk88
02/16/23 4:55:09 PM
#89:


VeggetaX posted...
Man comic book movies ruining lives here
That's a little extreme bud
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HylianFox
02/16/23 4:58:43 PM
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VeggetaX posted...
Man comic book movies ruining lives here

Batman killed my parents to make up for losing his.

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CableZL
02/16/23 5:00:34 PM
#91:


HylianFox posted...
Batman killed my parents to make up for losing his.
Your mom's name must not have been Martha

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HylianFox
02/16/23 5:05:22 PM
#92:


CableZL posted...
Your mom's name must not have been Martha

It was not, unfortunately

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lolife67
02/16/23 5:47:23 PM
#93:


Mr_hulk88 posted...
Lol.

Unless you were born around 2012 when the MCU mess started and hence don't have a point of comparison, I don't get why you would make this strange statement.
Actual math is strange to you? Lol no wonder you say such ridiculous things.
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vycebrand2
02/16/23 6:26:51 PM
#94:


Prestoff posted...
I can be a start of a downhill trend. The reason the DCEU went out in such a wimper was because they released stinkers after stinkers. If MCU continues this, it could lead to their movies not doing so great in the future. Though with how prevelant the MCU still is in our entertainment, I could totally be wrong as well.

But anyways I think this was a big reason there wasn't that much hype for this movie. It most likely didn't test well with the test audience.
It falled from the start because one of the trinity characters (Superman) is nothing like the character that people have known for 70+ years. When people think movie Superman they imagine Both the Reeves Superman. Batman VS Superman should have been 5 movies down the road. They threw those movies out there with no planning at all. Add in casting people who are horrible people in real life. (Heard and Miller) It was always gonna fail.

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divot1338
02/16/23 6:30:56 PM
#95:


CableZL posted...
Your mom's name must not have been Martha
Mine was.

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HylianFox
02/16/23 6:31:30 PM
#96:


vycebrand2 posted...
It failed from the start because one of the trinity characters (Superman) is nothing like the character that people have known for 70+ years. When people think movie Superman they imagine Both the Reeves Superman. Batman VS Superman should have been 5 movies down the road. They threw those movies out there with no planning at all. Add in casting people who are horrible people in real life. (Heard and Miller) It was always gonna fail.

I was just talking about DC movies with a friend the other day and told him the problem was they tried to make every character into Batman
>_>

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Hinakuluiau
02/16/23 6:32:25 PM
#97:


Cobra1010 posted...
I think xmen movies are naturally hard to get right. It's like an avengers movie right off the bat. It'll likely fail like snyder justice league.
X1 is ok
X2 is great
X3 sucks
FC is ok
Apocalypse sucks
Dark Phoenix sucks

Not the worst odds when you compare to Avengers
1 was ok
AoU sucks
IW is great
Endgame is ok

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Mr_hulk88
02/16/23 6:33:45 PM
#98:


lolife67 posted...
Actual math is strange to you? Lol no wonder you say such ridiculous things.

I have no idea which part of my comment you believe involved math. Odd.
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lolife67
02/16/23 6:35:32 PM
#99:


Mr_hulk88 posted...
I have no idea which part of my comment you believe involved math. Odd.
A percentile doesn't involve math? Odd indeed lol
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Punished_Blinx
02/16/23 6:38:43 PM
#100:


So it's nearly 15 years since Iron Man kicked off the MCU

15 years before that was 1993. A year after Batman Returns came out. Basically right when superhero blockbuster franchises started to become a thing. Even then it was still quite a few years away until things really kicked off.

Batman and Jurassic Park are both often credited as the beginning of the modern blockbuster movie too.

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divot1338
02/16/23 6:40:07 PM
#101:


Punished_Blinx posted...
So it's nearly 15 years since Iron Man kicked off the MCU

15 years before that was 1993. A year after Batman Returns came out. Basically right when superhero blockbuster franchises started to become a thing. Even then it was still quite a few years away until things really kicked off.

Batman and Jurassic Park are both often credited as the beginning of the modern blockbuster movie too.
Superman 2 - 1980

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