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Ryven 02/10/23 12:57:32 PM #1: |
His first visit with the owl, the owl mentions the monsters have started (keyword) acting crazy since his arrival. If Link awakens the Wind Fish, he eradicates the entire island and everything and everyone in it. I mean he's obviously not trying to be the villain, but he's the antagonist that starts the unbalance in the world of the island. --- 'We're not gonna make it, are we? People i mean.' 'It's in your nature to destroy yourselves.' ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Were_Wyrm 02/10/23 12:58:39 PM #2: |
The hero is the real monster. --- I was a God, Valeria. I found it...beneath me. - Dr. Doom https://i.imgur.com/0EJvC4l.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ellis123 02/10/23 12:58:43 PM #3: |
No, he is not. --- "A shouted order to do something of dubious morality with an unpredictable outcome? Thweeet!" My FC is in my profile. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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K181 02/10/23 12:59:23 PM #4: |
Not really. His adventure was basically the equivilent of a dreamed version of a Holodeck. He's gotta get out, and the figments only existed because he entered that state in the first place. But it is meant to be a very melancholy and somber ending. --- Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Chicken 02/10/23 12:59:48 PM #5: |
I got the impression that the people are stuck on the island and waking the fish released them. Except for Marin... We don't talk about Marin... --- May contain bones https://youtu.be/jGbI0P4hh3o ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cjsdowg 02/10/23 1:01:02 PM #6: |
Yes I have spoken about my dismay about that before. He doesn't even try another way. He just kills everyone. He trusted this assholr that left him to die at see. But link kids all those people. Edit the bosses are begging link not to kill there world. But he does it with a smile. The people in the village have hopes and dreams and is honestly nicer and care more about him then zelda --- To be a poor man is hard, but to be a poor race in a land of dollars is the very bottom of hardships. W.E.B. Du Bois ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EmbraceOfDeath 02/10/23 1:02:08 PM #7: |
So the wind fish should be forced to sleep forever so that the dream inhabitants won't disappear? Even though they only exist due to the wind fish dreaming them? That's pretty messed up. --- No more shall man have wings to bear him to paradise. Henceforth, he shall walk. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Background_Guy 02/10/23 1:02:14 PM #8: |
The Wind Fish is the villain for flying away on his own and leaving Link stranded at sea ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 02/10/23 1:08:07 PM #9: |
It's heavily implied that the island was a stable equilibrium before Link started fucking everything up, yes ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The_Korey 02/10/23 1:09:48 PM #10: |
The nightmares were their own thing. --- https://i.imgur.com/PpxZDof.png | https://i.imgur.com/xMGLcGE.png https://i.imgur.com/nsBw6Sy.png | https://imgtc.com/i/sBYBaew.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SHRlKE 02/10/23 1:10:42 PM #11: |
Ffs spoilers. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ryven 02/10/23 1:11:08 PM #12: |
Questionmarktarius posted... It's heavily implied that the island was a stable equilibrium before Link started fucking everything up, yes Exactly. There's never any mention of the people being in danger, or some malevolent force making life hell for everybody. --- 'We're not gonna make it, are we? People i mean.' 'It's in your nature to destroy yourselves.' ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Reave314 02/10/23 1:11:59 PM #13: |
Presumably, the Wind Fish would eventually just die if it was forced to keep on sleeping, and if it dies then everything in the dream goes poof anyway. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KeeperOfShadows 02/10/23 1:19:25 PM #14: |
How dare he choose to go back to his real life rather than stay in a dream world with people who don't actually exist. --- Currently playing: DFFOO, Priconne ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 02/10/23 1:28:55 PM #15: |
This is like arguing Mario is the villain of Mario 2 --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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viewmaster_pi 02/10/23 1:30:55 PM #16: |
Tyranthraxus posted... This is like arguing Mario is the villain of Mario 2well... he is! --- The stone that fell is still falling, so let that stone be a wondrous thing ... Copied to Clipboard!
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K181 02/10/23 1:31:27 PM #18: |
Questionmarktarius posted... It's heavily implied that the island was a stable equilibrium before Link started fucking everything up, yes And, as far as hologram programs know in Star Trek, they all lived full lives prior to real people entering their scenarios. --- Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FL81 02/10/23 1:57:54 PM #19: |
This is like arguing Marche is the villain of FFTA --- https://i.imgur.com/TGkNCva.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 02/10/23 2:00:21 PM #20: |
FL81 posted... This is like arguing Marche is the villain of FFTAWell... yeah. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GrandConjuraton 02/10/23 2:01:35 PM #21: |
FL81 posted... This is like arguing Marche is the villain of FFTAHe is. --- You shouldn't have taken the apple down from the tree. https://imgur.com/o21DN7r ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cjsdowg 02/10/23 3:38:04 PM #22: |
Tyranthraxus posted... This is like arguing Mario is the villain of Mario 2 That dream world still exist even when Mario. Since we see people from that world in other places. --- To be a poor man is hard, but to be a poor race in a land of dollars is the very bottom of hardships. W.E.B. Du Bois ... Copied to Clipboard!
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32Legend 02/10/23 3:42:34 PM #23: |
Tyranthraxus posted... This is like arguing Mario is the villain of Mario 2 cjsdowg posted... That dream world still exist even when Mario. Since we see people from that world in other places. Yeah, the Link thing is more complicated but I was under the impression Mario was just visting a world of dreams by dreaming himself into it, and helping the people who lived there by defeating an evil king, then he would wake up and the dream world would still exist to be dreamed back into any time, except without a tyrant. It wasn't Mario's dream, it was some kind of ongoing dream kingdom he just got to enter for a while. --- Alt of 31Veteran CYOA - You'e a Potato https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1039-cyoas/80167251 197/334 - past users/current total karma ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 02/10/23 3:54:40 PM #24: |
32Legend posted... Yeah, the Link thing is more complicated but I was under the impression Mario was just visting a world of dreams by dreaming himself into it, and helping the people who lived there by defeating an evil king, then he would wake up and the dream world would still exist to be dreamed back into any time, except without a tyrant. It wasn't Mario's dream, it was some kind of ongoing dream kingdom he just got to enter for a while. Okay then so we confirmed Link did absolutely nothing wrong since Wart shows up in both and he seems to be perfectly fine. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 02/10/23 4:00:38 PM #25: |
Tyranthraxus posted... Okay then so we confirmed Link did absolutely nothing wrong since Wart shows up in both and he seems to be perfectly fine.No, that's Mamu, who totally isn't Wart hiding out in a swamp. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 02/10/23 4:01:29 PM #26: |
Questionmarktarius posted... No, that's Mamu, who totally isn't Wart hiding out in a swamp.Mamu is literally just the Japanese name for Wart. Like other things it was a pointless name change by NoA. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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voldothegr8 02/10/23 4:10:53 PM #27: |
Questionmarktarius posted... It's heavily implied that the island was a stable equilibrium before Link started fucking everything up, yesStable, but still just a dream. --- Oda break tracker 2022- 13 (3) | THE Ohio State:11-1 | Las Vegas Raiders: 6-9 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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32Legend 02/11/23 2:35:00 PM #28: |
Tyranthraxus posted... Okay then so we confirmed Link did absolutely nothing wrong since Wart shows up in both and he seems to be perfectly fine.You're just starting to make me wonder if Link also killed Subcon. --- Alt of 31Veteran CYOA - You'e a Potato https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1039-cyoas/80167251 197/334 - past users/current total karma ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kamil 02/11/23 2:43:05 PM #29: |
I remember when I used to not over think everything, I was just like cool Zelda is on the Gameboy and there are goombas in it for some reason. Also when I say the internet, I am not being critical to anyone here unless I straight up say, hey you! Or something. It is more what the internet became because of social media, but I digress. I over think way too much these days. Things were simpler. I read some of this even the spoilers but heh Link should visit Subcon someday. 5 cherries gets him a heart piece ;P --- "A lesser talent couldn't have pulled it off. But I'm willing to bet on BoJack Horseman. Are you?" ~~Cuddlywhiskers on the new show ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 02/11/23 3:03:13 PM #30: |
32Legend posted... You're just starting to make me wonder if Link also killed Subcon.Mamu/Wart is basically a mostly-benign frog version of Freddy Krueger. Dude just goes where the dream's at. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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s0nicfan 02/11/23 3:08:33 PM #31: |
Tyranthraxus posted... This is like arguing Mario is the villain of Mario 2 It's more like arguing that Marche is the villain of final fantasy tactics advance. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kamil 02/11/23 3:11:43 PM #32: |
I never played much of the remake but this game was so cool. Thanks for reading my fanboi post. --- "A lesser talent couldn't have pulled it off. But I'm willing to bet on BoJack Horseman. Are you?" ~~Cuddlywhiskers on the new show ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 02/11/23 5:24:33 PM #33: |
s0nicfan posted... It's more like arguing that Marche is the villain of final fantasy tactics advance. Nah. In final fantasy tactics advance the whole world was forcibly transformed into monsters or other shit without their consent. There's some parallels here but Marche was overall still in the right. FFTA wasn't just not real it was also morally abhorrent to persist in it just because you don't want to be in a wheelchair anymore. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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s0nicfan 02/11/23 5:29:35 PM #34: |
Tyranthraxus posted... Nah. In final fantasy tactics advance the whole world was forcibly transformed into monsters or other shit without their consent. There's some parallels here but Marche was overall still in the right. FFTA wasn't just not real it was also morally abhorrent to persist in it just because you don't want to be in a wheelchair anymore. I agree, I just wanted to point out how the debate in this topic mirrors the ones I tend to see in FFTA topics. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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32Legend 02/11/23 5:34:55 PM #35: |
Questionmarktarius posted... Mamu/Wart is basically a mostly-benign frog version of Freddy Krueger. Dude just goes where the dream's at.Is that so? I never heard that one. That doesn't explain how all the Mario enemies like Shyguys and Pokeys and Goomba got there. Ones from both Subcon and the Mushroom Kingdom. --- Alt of 31Veteran CYOA - You'e a Potato https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1039-cyoas/80167251 197/334 - past users/current total karma ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChocoboMog123 02/11/23 5:55:22 PM #36: |
Koholint is stable before Link, but it also prevents the Wind Fish from living his fishy life. --- "You're sorely underestimating the power of nostalgia goggles." - adjl http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20110218.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pegusus123456 02/11/23 5:59:41 PM #37: |
ChocoboMog123 posted... So what you're saying is that --- http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur ... Copied to Clipboard!
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32Legend 02/11/23 6:00:35 PM #38: |
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TomClark 02/11/23 6:02:29 PM #39: |
32Legend posted... You're just starting to make me wonder if Link also killed Subcon. Link finished what Mario started. --- http://i.imgur.com/6eF0W.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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32Legend 02/11/23 6:05:58 PM #40: |
Mario still didn't kill Subcon, he was requested by the inhabitants to kick out wart geez man you're so stubborn with this incorrect lore --- Alt of 31Veteran CYOA - You'e a Potato https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1039-cyoas/80167251 197/334 - past users/current total karma ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BTH_Phoenix 02/13/23 10:38:55 AM #41: |
That just proves Mario's a narcissist who likes dreaming he's a hero --- *whoosh* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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32Legend 02/13/23 11:27:46 PM #42: |
BTH_Phoenix posted... That just proves Mario's a narcissist who likes dreaming he's a heroIf Mario was just dreaming and not in a real place than you just absolved Link of all responsibility of anything other than a weird dream since his isn't real either. --- Alt of 31Veteran CYOA - You'e a Potato https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1039-cyoas/80167251 197/334 - past users/current total karma ... Copied to Clipboard!
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