Current Events > Should trans women be allowed to compete in female athletic competitions?

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rexcrk
02/03/23 6:12:10 PM
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Yikes at the results.

Too bad we cant see who voted what


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FigureOfSpeech
02/03/23 6:13:23 PM
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MARKINGRAM22
02/03/23 8:08:50 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
70% of CE hating trans people sounds about right
Thinking there is gap biologically between those born as men and women is hating trans peoplethis is so stupid.
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Smackems
02/03/23 8:19:26 PM
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I don't know

Don't really care either

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Lonestar2000
02/03/23 8:23:20 PM
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02/03/23 8:24:00 PM
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gunplagirl
02/03/23 8:24:57 PM
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Yes

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Gwynevere
02/03/23 8:25:21 PM
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MARKINGRAM22 posted...
Thinking there is gap biologically between those born as men and women is hating trans people
Refusing to acknowledge the fact that that gap diminishes through transition and never exists in the first place if they begin transition before puberty and trying to enforce standards around such misinformation could be classified as hate, yes.

You keep using the word "biological" but I think you're a bit confused on what that really means.

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Pogo_Marimo
02/03/23 8:40:31 PM
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As much as I'm intuitively skeptical of it, scientific studies have shown that trans-women on long term hormone treatment plans lose nearly all of their advantages, and are sometimes disadvantaged compared to ciswomen with naturally high testosterone. As long as no in-depth meta-analysises or something show a shocking turn around on this data, then I've no problem with it.

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CommonStar
02/03/23 8:41:40 PM
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Yes.
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KalimariX8
02/03/23 8:49:39 PM
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Etna posted...
Should non binary folx be allowed to compete im both men and women's divisions?
or do they not get to participate in either?

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WizardPowers
02/03/23 9:57:39 PM
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This is absolute delusion. Otherwise trans men would be equally competitive with cis men which they are not even close outside of extreme endurance sports

Gwynevere posted...

Refusing to acknowledge the fact that that gap diminishes through transition


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Gwynevere
02/03/23 11:17:22 PM
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WizardPowers posted...
This is absolute delusion. Otherwise trans men would be equally competitive with cis men which they are not even close outside of extreme endurance sports

Gwynevere posted...

Refusing to acknowledge the fact that that gap diminishes through transition
That's a totally different discussion, since the MtF and FtM transition processes are vastly different. Go make that topic if that's what you want to discuss

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AloneIBreak
02/03/23 11:21:00 PM
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Kind of shocked at the poll results.

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Gobstoppers12
02/03/23 11:24:08 PM
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AloneIBreak posted...
Kind of shocked at the poll results.
Why?

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ArchNemo
02/03/23 11:29:12 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Desegregate sports.

Tbf generally only women's sports leagues are segregated. For example, there's no rule that says that women can't play in the NBA, it just doesn't happen because women can't compete with men in elite level sports.

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Glob
02/03/23 11:29:13 PM
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For a long time I thought the answer should be no, as it seemed intuitive to me that they would have an unfair advantage.

However, Im no longer convinced that its the case. Should it be a situation that is monitored and regulated? Of course, but its not like all the successful female athletes are trans, is it?
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AloneIBreak
02/03/23 11:29:36 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
Why?
The 70-something percent of people voting no must bite their tongues when people make topics like this. They usually skew in favor of trans women in womens sports.

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Questionmarktarius
02/03/23 11:35:46 PM
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ArchNemo posted...
Tbf generally only women's sports leagues are segregated.
Which loops us back to "shock and alarm" about the exclusionary leagues being exclusionary.
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ArchNemo
02/03/23 11:39:00 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Which loops us back to "shock and alarm" about the exclusionary leagues being exclusionary.


Oh. I didn't realize you were being sarcastic

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Questionmarktarius
02/03/23 11:44:36 PM
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ArchNemo posted...
Oh. I didn't realize you were being sarcastic
Cynical, not sarcastic.
...maybe acerbic
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Master_Kazuya
02/03/23 11:51:44 PM
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Let trans women compete and destroy the cis women for thinking they ever had a chance.

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hockeybub89
02/04/23 12:03:24 AM
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Master_Kazuya posted...
Let trans women compete and destroy the cis women for thinking they ever had a chance.
They already compete and aren't destroying their fellow women with any kind of regularity.

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Jennywentnorth8
02/04/23 12:07:30 AM
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AloneIBreak posted...
The 70-something percent of people voting no must bite their tongues when people make topics like this. They usually skew in favor of trans women in womens sports.

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KainWind
02/04/23 12:07:45 AM
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Does anyone let trans women compete without undergoing any HRT or anything?

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hockeybub89
02/04/23 12:11:07 AM
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MARKINGRAM22 posted...
Thinking there is gap biologically between those born as men and women is hating trans peoplethis is so stupid.
Yeah it's pretty stupid that people bring out rudimentary understanding of biology and hide behind the claim that they're just really passionate about protecting the integrity of women's sports.

And no amount of studies or evidence will change your minds because a couple trans MMA fighters beat up randos and you remember from school that chromosomes exist. It really is a shame that the Internet has made people think their opinions matter. It even affects our polticians and it's why they will never shut the fuck up and defer to their betters on any subject.

All you have are feelings and the Republicans are right about one thing in theory, even if they are completely wrong in practice: Facts don't care about your feelings.

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Etna
02/04/23 12:14:00 AM
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KainWind posted...
Does anyone let trans women compete without undergoing any HRT or anything?
If they want it to be fair, they should allow the folx to compete at any level of transition. Some probably can't afford hormones and such.

They shouldn't just be told to sit and spin

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