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Scotty_Rogers
01/31/23 2:48:26 PM
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Then it wasn't important.

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MedeaLysistrata
01/31/23 2:51:41 PM
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can you give an antithetical example to this?

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Lost_All_Senses
01/31/23 2:53:19 PM
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This is an anti-fun argument. Sometimes stuff can just be there to be fun and entertaining. It's literally why we started indulging in the media in the first place. People just get less fun as they age and then they get irritable instead of give in. I'm not immune to this myself.

Also, thanks for unblocking me.

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Solid_Seb
01/31/23 2:57:42 PM
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There is more to a story than just the ending, and it's the creators' choice how to tell it.
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Scotty_Rogers
01/31/23 2:58:10 PM
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Even the ending can be changed without changing much of the story.

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roos1046_Reborn
01/31/23 3:00:12 PM
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This sums up every topic by the TC

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famfam
01/31/23 3:00:28 PM
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not everything has to be important
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Aridi
01/31/23 3:00:54 PM
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Sounds like Hemingway's Iceberg theory. Except the stuff you omit certainly is important in that its effect is still felt, if the writing is good.

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Scotty_Rogers
01/31/23 3:01:24 PM
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Aridi posted...
Sounds like Hemingway's Iceberg theory. Except the stuff you omit certainly is important in that its effect is still felt, if the writing is good.

Can't be good writing if it's pointless

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EmbraceOfDeath
01/31/23 3:01:36 PM
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Bulma must be incredibly important since replacing her would change the whole story.

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Scotty_Rogers
01/31/23 3:03:22 PM
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EmbraceOfDeath posted...
Bulma must be incredibly important since replacing her would change the whole story.

It wouldn't at all


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MedeaLysistrata
01/31/23 3:04:51 PM
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
It wouldn't at all
you can replace anything but you can't take stuff out. don't be silly.

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Scotty_Rogers
01/31/23 3:05:51 PM
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You can actually take Bulma out entirely and lose nothing

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MedeaLysistrata
01/31/23 3:07:27 PM
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You can also lose nothing by making stupid arguments and not explaining them

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Scotty_Rogers
01/31/23 3:50:21 PM
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Just admit you're wrong and call it a day

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A_Good_Boy
01/31/23 3:53:56 PM
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If you removed Bulma from the dragonbalk franchise then you'd have a fundamentally different story. So according to TC's logic she must be important. If Goku didn't exist then his family would have just sent Raditz and he would have hit his head instead. So therefore Goku is a superfluous (useless) character.

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s0nicfan
01/31/23 3:55:11 PM
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Scotty could be replaced without CE changing much.

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Scotty_Rogers
01/31/23 3:55:20 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
If you removed Bulma from the dragonbalk franchise

You would change nothing, aside from improving the story as she's an all around useless character.

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ElleRagu
01/31/23 3:57:05 PM
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how would nothing change if bulma didn't exist lol

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MedeaLysistrata
01/31/23 3:57:19 PM
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
You would change nothing, aside from improving the story as she's an all around useless character.
Obviously I would change nothing because you've already decided that Dr Gero can make a Dragon Radar that gets stolen by Yamcha

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A_Good_Boy
01/31/23 4:00:53 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
Obviously I would change nothing because you've already decided that Dr Gero can make a Dragon Radar that gets stolen by Yamcha
Through Dr. Gero the story would then introduce his rival Dr. Brief and then through Dr. Brief the story would introduce his far more talented, capable, and useful daughter that had just built a newly improved fancy dragon radar before she embarks on a trip during her summer vacation.

All roads eventually circle back to Bulma, cause she's far too important to the story.

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Scotty_Rogers
01/31/23 4:01:02 PM
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ElleRagu posted...
how would nothing change if bulma didn't exist lol

Nothing would change if Bulma didn't exist, because she is a useless character.

You see, when someone is useless, them not existing changes nothing.

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ElleRagu
01/31/23 4:06:52 PM
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how is she a useless character

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A_Good_Boy
01/31/23 4:07:35 PM
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She's not.

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Scotty_Rogers
01/31/23 4:08:52 PM
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ElleRagu posted...
how is she a useless character

She's a useless character because she does nothing useful.

You see, when you do nothing useful, then you're objectively useless.

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A_Good_Boy
01/31/23 4:10:14 PM
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Scotty is projecting some childhood trauma.

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ROBANN_88
01/31/23 4:11:11 PM
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oh, so The One Ring could be changed into The One Toothbrush, Saurons favorite tootbrush.

that means the Ring was complete non-important to the story?

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Heartomaton
01/31/23 4:12:32 PM
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
You see, when you do nothing useful, then you're objectively useless.

Spoken like a true pot.

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MedeaLysistrata
01/31/23 4:13:12 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
Scotty is projecting some childhood trauma.
Bulma is basically Mrs Frizzle

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Scotty_Rogers
01/31/23 4:14:00 PM
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Name all the "useful things" Bulma did, chop chop

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MedeaLysistrata
01/31/23 4:14:52 PM
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
Name all the "useful things" Bulma did, chop chop
Chaperoned a 6 year old kid who didn't know anything about the world around

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Scotty_Rogers
01/31/23 4:16:55 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
Chaperoned a 6 year old kid

Goku wasn't even 6 LOL

There goes all your credibility. Next.

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A_Good_Boy
01/31/23 4:18:09 PM
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
Name all the "useful things" Bulma did, chop chop
Stopped Yamcha from killing Goku and getting his only dub in the whole series.

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Heartomaton
01/31/23 4:21:26 PM
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What's something objectively useful that you do?

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LightningAce11
01/31/23 4:23:39 PM
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Scotty hows Mitch?

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NoxObscuras
01/31/23 4:24:39 PM
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
Name all the "useful things" Bulma did, chop chop
How about you go first Scotty

Scotty_Rogers posted...
Nothing would change if Bulma didn't exist, because she is a useless character.

You see, when someone is useless, them not existing changes nothing.
Explain how the story doesn't change if you remove Bulma. Chop chop

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Scotty_Rogers
01/31/23 4:30:00 PM
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
Name all the "useful things" Bulma did, chop chop


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Jerry_Hellyeah
01/31/23 4:36:39 PM
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
Can't be good writing if it's pointless

Says who?

It always cracks me up to see people like Scotty bringing up these 2nd grade writing tips as unbreakable bylaws of literature.

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Scotty_Rogers
01/31/23 4:42:03 PM
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So no one can name anything useful she did.

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A_Good_Boy
01/31/23 4:46:43 PM
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She invented a time machine.

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Scotty_Rogers
01/31/23 4:47:55 PM
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That's not important. I'm taking this victory.

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