Poll of the Day > My boyfriend's job made him go in office all last week

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He got an email today that he was exposed to covid.

god i just love that ya know

I have your boyfriend a job that made him feel exposed

Got em

Blightzkrieg posted...

I have your boyfriend a job that made him feel exposed

Got em

he does feel very exposed!

Was he actually doing work that required a physical presence, or was he just demanded in there by managers whose sense of self-worth depends on staring at their subordinates?

I just got COVID last week from being in the office, and I'm just finished getting over it now.

adjl posted...

Was he actually doing work that required a physical presence, or was he just demanded in there by managers whose sense of self-worth depends on staring at their subordinates?

it's even worse. it's just because the company invested in a huge office complex with a 99 year lease and don't want to lose money on that lease. it's just property driven!

shadowsword87 posted...

I just got COVID last week from being in the office, and I'm just finished getting over it now.
It's just a fun time all around.

ugh i hate that for you. glad you're over it tho

Jen0125 posted...

it's even worse. it's just because the company invested in a huge office complex with a 99 year lease and don't want to lose money on that lease. it's just property driven!

It's quite remarkable how many companies have zero comprehension of the sunk cost fallacy as it pertains to remote work. That 99-year lease is going to cost them exactly the same amount regardless of how many people are sitting in the offices.

adjl posted...

It's quite remarkable how many companies have zero comprehension of the sunk cost fallacy as it pertains to remote work. That 99-year lease is going to cost them exactly the same amount regardless of how many people are sitting in the offices.

This company signed a 99-year lease. Don't expect them to be sensible.

That sounds almost like irony.

jsb0714 posted...

This company signed a 99-year lease. Don't expect them to be sensible.

That is indeed pretty questionable, unless they got an insanely good deal on it. I can't fault anyone too much for failing to predict the pandemic and the shift to WFH it would force, but it takes a pretty spectacular amount of arrogance to assume that your company will not only still be around in 99 years, but that the area will develop in a way that that will still be a reasonable location to have an office in 99 years. Unless there are numerous clauses in there that let them break the lease under any of the myriad circumstances that would make them unable to use the space, that's pretty dumb.

EclairReturns posted...

That sounds almost like irony.

Not really. Irony (specifically situational irony, which is what's relevant here) refers to an unexpected outcome. There's a lot of subjectivity in what is/isn't expected, which people trying to sound smart by being pedantic about irony's definition often ignore, but being exposed to Covid after the company forces everybody to ignore Covid precautions and come in is entirely the opposite of unexpected. The term you're looking for is "poetic justice," though even that's debatable because that concept relies on people "getting what they deserve" and not just things working out in a way that perfectly makes the point you want to make.

Act like youve had covid before. We're 3 years into the bit. Most people have had it by now

Idk if it's arrogance because the company HAS been around for 99 years already but it might be considering their choice in CEO and business decisions being made right now

But a 99 year lease in Arizona might actually be dumb because we may have no water by then

My company makes me go in office 1 day a week, which I still feel is stupid because all we do is chat with the ladies, but word on the street is that we arent going to keep our lease there much longer.

Jen0125 posted...

Idk if it's arrogance because the company HAS been around for 99 years already but it might be considering their choice in CEO and business decisions being made right now

I'd say it is. If the company's been around for 99 years, that's because it was managed well by those who ran and worked for it throughout those years. Most of those people, however, don't work there anymore because they've either retired or died. To assume another 99 years assumes not only that the current management will be able to keep it thriving for their entire tenure in a world and market that they can do very little to control, but also that whoever they bring in to replace them will also be able to do so, as well as whoever replaces them, and whoever replaces those replacements. At minimum, another 99 years is at least three new generations and most likely four, and you just can't plan for things you have so little control over.

Maybe I'm just being pessimistic and/or underestimating the options available to get out of trying to make decades of lease payments if the company goes under, but it seems like a really bad idea.

Of course, Guinness signed a 9000 year lease for their brewery in Dublin in 1759 at just 45 pounds a year, and that worked out pretty well for them, so who knows?

PK_Spam posted...

My company makes me go in office 1 day a week, which I still feel is stupid because all we do is chat with the ladies, but word on the street is that we arent going to keep our lease there much longer.

Most of the Canadian federal government is officially back to requiring everyone to be in the office 1 day a week, but they're going to be escalating that to either 2 or 3 days in the coming months. The messaging around it is particularly infuriating, since it's a lot of talk of "teambuilding" and "workplace culture" from folks at the top who will never know me as anything more than another name on a long list of employees they don't know, and even though the directive is that everyone has to come in regardless of whether or not their work requires it, everyone has been instructed to ensure that they make good use of their in-office time so it's not just a matter of making a token trip in. The whole thing is nothing more than a bloated executive suite trying to micromanage their way back into relevance after they spent two years being shown just how unnecessary they are.