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TopGoats 01/24/23 11:47:43 AM #1: |
https://www.mysanantonio.com/business/article/california-elon-musk-wealth-tax-17735560.php Silicon Valley billionaires: the grass may not be greener in Texas for much longer. California lawmakers are considering a "wealth tax" that would not only introduce a 1.5% tax on net worth in excess of $1 billion by 2024, but also allow the state to pursue that tax for former residents who flee the state for tax-friendly locations like Florida or Texas. DO IT --- End of passion play, crumbling away I'm your source of self-destruction ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FatAnimeBooty 01/24/23 11:49:04 AM #2: |
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EmbraceOfDeath 01/24/23 11:50:54 AM #3: |
It's a nice sentiment, but 1.5%? Wtf, that's nothing. --- No more shall man have wings to bear him to paradise. Henceforth, he shall walk. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GATTJT 01/24/23 11:52:08 AM #4: |
EmbraceOfDeath posted... It's a nice sentiment, but 1.5%? Wtf, that's nothing.And yet the rich are still whining about it --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/gamerfanfan/wishlist ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PepsiWithCoke 01/24/23 11:52:31 AM #5: |
EmbraceOfDeath posted... It's a nice sentiment, but 1.5%? Wtf, that's nothing.That's $10 Million. --- https://i.imgur.com/fEKRafh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/hgwNfD8.jpg http://i.imgur.com/cgQKJhR.jpg https://i.imgur.com/0CU0ivF.gifv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Master_Bass 01/24/23 11:52:33 AM #6: |
TopGoats posted... DO IT --- Many Bothans died to bring you this post. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Autocraticus 01/24/23 11:52:42 AM #7: |
Even more of a reason for companies to not start their businesses in California. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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meestermj 01/24/23 11:54:08 AM #8: |
EmbraceOfDeath posted... It's a nice sentiment, but 1.5%? Wtf, that's nothing.1.5% of 50 million is 750,000. That's quite a lot of money when it comes to a state budget, and it's not on just one person. GATTJT posted... And yet the rich are still whining about it --- Psn: beastlytoast Left-handed fire-slapsies leave me feeling confused about life. - Merydia ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Heavy_D_Forever 01/24/23 11:55:50 AM #9: |
but also allow the state to pursue that tax for former residents who flee the state for tax-friendly locations like Florida or Texas. That would create soooooo many lawsuits lmao This is just some political BS that will never come to fruition, like 90% of everything that politicians say. --- E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dan_Haren- 01/24/23 11:56:02 AM #10: |
It's dumb. California already has so much money that they are wasting. We need to cut spending. These mega corporations create a shit ton of jobs for Californians. And at least in Cali these companies see a ton of profits but still keep pouring back into investing in growth which means even more jobs. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NoxObscuras 01/24/23 11:57:43 AM #11: |
Do it! Billionaires keep trying to do things that take more money from the working class. Time they give up some of their own money. --- PSN - NoxObscuras Z490 | i9-10900K | EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra | 32GB DDR4 3600 | 4TB SSD ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BignutzisBack 01/24/23 11:58:31 AM #12: |
Autocraticus posted... Even more of a reason for companies to not start their businesses in California. This lol, have they learned nothing from France? --- http://i.imgur.com/plA0Vg9.gif https://media.giphy.com/media/dgK22exekwOLm/giphy.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Slaya4 01/24/23 11:59:26 AM #13: |
California just being a clingy ex at this point. It's dumb, shouldn't be able to pursue taxes after somebody leaves. --- Am I going too hard? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thronedfire2 01/24/23 12:01:03 PM #14: |
Autocraticus posted... Even more of a reason for companies to not start their businesses in California. thats the thing, they start in Cali for the location and employee pool and then once they make their money they bail. If they wanted to start in other states they already would have been doing that anyway since taxes were already lower in other states --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NoxObscuras 01/24/23 12:02:01 PM #15: |
Slaya4 posted... California just being a clingy ex at this point. It's dumb, shouldn't be able to pursue taxes after somebody leaves.They're doing this because people are leaving the state, specifically to avoid being taxed. So this is basically going "dodge this, bitch!" --- PSN - NoxObscuras Z490 | i9-10900K | EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra | 32GB DDR4 3600 | 4TB SSD ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 01/24/23 12:02:23 PM #16: |
Okay, guys, "Hotel California" wasn't meant to be taken literally. ...and this, is why buying twitter and tanking Tesla will turn out to be brilliant. Elon gonna gut his net worth to $999,999,999, then flee to Texas. Or, all the billionaires in California leave right now, because the open dare has been given. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheMikh 01/24/23 12:03:44 PM #17: |
retroactive wealth tax? good luck with that. --- http://i.imgur.com/A0TAfek.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SuperShake666 01/24/23 12:03:51 PM #18: |
Dan_Haren- posted... It's dumb. California already has so much money that they are wasting. We need to cut spending. We had a tax surplus you loon. --- "Look, if I was good at math, I wouldn't be on CE at 2:00 the morning clicking on topics about porn stars ****ing horses." - May 2017, Dash_Harber ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TMOG 01/24/23 12:04:38 PM #19: |
Slaya4 posted... California just being a clingy ex at this point. It's dumb, shouldn't be able to pursue taxes after somebody leaves.If Texas can send bounty hunters after people who move out of the state so they can get an abortion or so their kids can be trans, why can't California do this? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Norman_Smiley 01/24/23 12:09:22 PM #20: |
What justification is there for taxing non-residents? --- http://i.imgur.com/BVBQC.jpg The big wiggle equals ratings. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DipDipDiver 01/24/23 12:09:36 PM #21: |
TMOG posted... If Texas can send bounty hunters after people who move out of the state so they can get an abortion or so their kids can be trans, why can't California do this?I think the general consensus is that Texas shouldn't be allowed to do that ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tsup-tsup 01/24/23 12:11:03 PM #22: |
Paying taxes to a state you don't live in is pretty messed up. California having overreach to other states doesn't sound like a good idea. --- (^_^) (^o^) oo00o~ Thomasina ~o00oo ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NoxObscuras 01/24/23 12:11:37 PM #23: |
Norman_Smiley posted... What justification is there for taxing non-residents?Because they're using loop holes for tax evasion --- PSN - NoxObscuras Z490 | i9-10900K | EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra | 32GB DDR4 3600 | 4TB SSD ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Prismsblade 01/24/23 12:18:53 PM #24: |
Why don't they focus more on cutting back spend rather then relying on the income of a very small pool of individuals, and or businesses with brains, money, and connections enough to fight or dodge them enitrely? Thus screwing over the state in the run. The average Cali person is good but they aren't who are paying the bills. --- 3DS FC:3368-5403-9633 Name: Kaizer PSN: Blackkaizer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Heavy_D_Forever 01/24/23 12:19:55 PM #25: |
NoxObscuras posted... Because they're using loop holes for tax evasionLoop holes aren't illegal, but states trying to retroactively tax non citizens would be unconstitutional. Just accept that this is stupid and will never happen. --- E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MedeaLysistrata 01/24/23 12:23:44 PM #26: |
Heavy_D_Forever posted... Loop holes aren't illegal, but states trying to retroactively tax non citizens would be unconstitutional. Just accept that this is stupid and will never happen.They're still part of the state before they move. --- Please join the 100 Presidents community board and contribute to the project! Check back for updates! https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1568-100-presidents ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Compsognathus 01/24/23 12:24:03 PM #27: |
While I absolutely think the wealthy should be taxed more, I have no idea how this law would even remotely work. It would almost certainly collapse at the first push-back. --- *Gheb is my other account* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Baha05 01/24/23 12:24:04 PM #28: |
Heavy_D_Forever posted... Loop holes aren't illegal, but states trying to retroactively tax non citizens would be unconstitutional. Just accept that this is stupid and will never happen.They can be if its an attempt to commit fraud. --- "He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Heavy_D_Forever 01/24/23 12:25:38 PM #29: |
Baha05 posted... They can be if its an attempt to commit fraud.I'm pretty sure Musks legal team that handle his taxes know exactly what they are doing and how to not commit fraud. --- E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Baha05 01/24/23 12:26:39 PM #30: |
Heavy_D_Forever posted... I'm pretty sure Musks legal team that handle his taxes know exactly what they are doing and how to not commit fraud.Bu abusing loopholes which for something like this should be illegal. --- "He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dj1200 01/24/23 12:28:44 PM #31: |
I'm down for it. --- "It was so ridiculous and I have so many feelings about it." -Virtual Energies ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Heavy_D_Forever 01/24/23 12:29:05 PM #32: |
Baha05 posted... Bu abusing loopholes which for something like this should be illegal.But it's NOT illegal and that's the point. Whatever loop holes are being used are part of the system that has legally been put into place. Just because you don't LIKE the way things are doesn't mean you unconstitutionally tax people. --- E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RchHomieQuanChi 01/24/23 12:32:12 PM #33: |
tsup-tsup posted... Paying taxes to a state you don't live in is pretty messed up. California having overreach to other states doesn't sound like a good idea. You know what's more messed up? Utilizing a state's resources and infrastructure (usually paid for by the citizens of said state) to build up your company's workforce and consumer base, then fleeing elsewhere to avoid giving back to those people. --- I have nothing else to say ... Copied to Clipboard!
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g980 01/24/23 12:32:36 PM #34: |
wealth taxes are hecka dumb "hey if your business is too successful we are going to require you slowly relinquish ownership" great idea --- These old bones live to learn her wanton ways: (I measure time by how a body sways). ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Baha05 01/24/23 12:33:01 PM #35: |
Heavy_D_Forever posted... But it's NOT illegal and that's the point. Whatever loop holes are being used are part of the system that has legally been put into place.Whatever defend the dickhead nature if bailing from a state to avoid taxes. --- "He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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g980 01/24/23 12:33:13 PM #36: |
"also dont ask too many questions about how we assess the value of your business" --- These old bones live to learn her wanton ways: (I measure time by how a body sways). ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RchHomieQuanChi 01/24/23 12:35:32 PM #37: |
g980 posted... wealth taxes are hecka dumb What --- I have nothing else to say ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheHoldSteady 01/24/23 12:38:34 PM #38: |
g980 posted... wealth taxes are hecka dumb chemotherapy is hecka dumb "hey if your cancer is too successful we are going to require you slowly relinquish control of its vital organs" great idea --- Don't ask about Charlemagne. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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s0nicfan 01/24/23 12:38:43 PM #39: |
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/3/9/AABJX0AAEHof.jpg --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 01/24/23 12:40:55 PM #40: |
RchHomieQuanChi posted... WhatWhen you punish success and reward failure, take a guess which one you get more of. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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meestermj 01/24/23 12:41:55 PM #41: |
Questionmarktarius posted... When you punish success and reward failure, take a guess which one you get more of.I think he's more confused at the "relinquish ownership" part. Which is not happening whatsoever in any way. --- Psn: beastlytoast Left-handed fire-slapsies leave me feeling confused about life. - Merydia ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeeak4444 01/24/23 12:42:12 PM #42: |
s0nicfan posted... https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/3/9/AABJX0AAEHof.jpg anyone suggesting a race to the bottom probably should be thrown out of the window --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 01/24/23 12:43:11 PM #43: |
Heavy_D_Forever posted... Loop holes aren't illegal, but states trying to retroactively tax non citizens would be unconstitutional. Just accept that this is stupid and will never happen. States rights bro ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thronedfire2 01/24/23 12:43:54 PM #44: |
Heavy_D_Forever posted... But it's NOT illegal and that's the point. Whatever loop holes are being used are part of the system that has legally been put into place. so youre complaining about them implementing a law to make it illegal, because its not illegal now? yeah, thats how making new laws works --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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s0nicfan 01/24/23 12:44:07 PM #45: |
Zeeak4444 posted... anyone suggesting a race to the bottom probably should be thrown out of the window They're leaving for other states. That's called competition. It turns out when you can't force businesses to stay in one place they find better places for their business. That's not something you can regulate away. At some point, you have to acknowledge creating an environment hostile enough for companies to go elsewhere. That isn't something to double down on. It's a sign that you need to re-evaluate your policies. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Baha05 01/24/23 12:46:36 PM #46: |
s0nicfan posted... They're leaving for other states. That's called competition. It turns out when you can't force businesses to stay in one place they find better places for their business. That's not something you can regulate away. At some point, you have to acknowledge creating an environment hostile enough for companies to go elsewhere. That isn't something to double down on. It's a sign that you need to re-evaluate your policies.Right but the problem would still be the fact that if companies are coming to a state they know is like CA is and booking it before they can be taxed its a dick move. --- "He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeeak4444 01/24/23 12:46:50 PM #47: |
s0nicfan posted... They're leaving for other states. That's called competition. It turns out when you can't force businesses to stay in one place they find better places for their business. That's not something you can regulate away. At some point, you have to acknowledge creating an environment hostile enough for companies to go elsewhere. That isn't something to double down on. It's a sign that you need to re-evaluate your policies. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/race-bottom.asp what youre suggesting is a race to the bottom --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NoxObscuras 01/24/23 12:47:18 PM #48: |
s0nicfan posted... They're leaving for other states. That's called competition. It turns out when you can't force businesses to stay in one place they find better places for their business. That's not something you can regulate away.They're leaving for other states because of "maximizing profits" It's the same reason big corporations outsource work to other countries. Not because they are better places for business, but because it allows them to cut costs as much as possible. --- PSN - NoxObscuras Z490 | i9-10900K | EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra | 32GB DDR4 3600 | 4TB SSD ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Norman_Smiley 01/24/23 12:49:57 PM #49: |
Baha05 posted... Bu abusing loopholes which for something like this should be illegal. Loopholes exist because they were written into the laws. It is certainly within the right of legislature to close loopholes. But they don't. Using the tax code as written is not abusing it, even if you don't like the end results. --- http://i.imgur.com/BVBQC.jpg The big wiggle equals ratings. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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theAteam 01/24/23 12:50:09 PM #50: |
Fairly sure this would violate the commerce clause --- Buffalo Bills ... Copied to Clipboard!
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