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Gwynevere
01/23/23 8:48:34 PM
#153:


EmbraceOfDeath posted...
There are no products that you can buy that don't involve people doing much more heinous and relevant things, such as child or slave labor. People against this don't actually care about transphobia, they just want to pretend they're doing something good in the world without having to actually do anything.
This is such a bad argument. Of course I cant boycott/protest every single entity out there, because at that point you're just rallying against a complex chain of oppression that spans centuries and continents. But what I can do is choose a handful of causes that I absolutely won't give money to, and make that an additional form of activism.

"You can't protest this bad thing unless you simultaneously protest all bad things" is a purposely impossible standard to hold people to in order to discredit them. That's all it is.

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Prestoff
01/23/23 8:54:19 PM
#154:


Gwynevere posted...
This is such a bad argument. Of course I cant boycott/protest every single entity out there, because at that point you're just rallying against a complex chain of oppression that spans centuries and continents. But what I can do is choose a handful of causes that I absolutely won't give money to, and make that an additional form of activism.

"You can't protest this bad thing unless you simultaneously protest all bad things" is a purposely impossible standard to hold people to in order to discredit them. That's all it is.

And that's honestly fine, everyone picks and chooses their own battles. The issue is when said people start throwing their houlier than thou attitude and starts shaming and guilting others into boycotting as well. That's when the hypocrisy argument becomes valid imo.

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Baha05
01/23/23 9:50:05 PM
#155:


Prestoff posted...
And that's honestly fine, everyone picks and chooses their own battles. The issue is when said people start throwing their houlier than thou attitude and starts shaming and guilting others into boycotting as well. That's when the hypocrisy argument becomes valid imo.
This

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Gwynevere
01/23/23 10:09:20 PM
#156:


Prestoff posted...
And that's honestly fine, everyone picks and chooses their own battles. The issue is when said people start throwing their houlier than thou attitude and starts shaming and guilting others into boycotting as well. That's when the hypocrisy argument becomes valid imo.
Okay, but the original comment that started that chain simply said they weren't buying the game because Rowling is a transphobe. They didn't ask anyone else to not buy the game, they said they weren't buying it.

Baha05 posted...
This
But then you started the hypocrisy argument. The person you were replying to didn't start in on anyone else, you did. So which is it?

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Baha05
01/23/23 10:12:36 PM
#157:


Gwynevere posted...
Okay, but the original comment that started that chain simply said they weren't buying the game because Rowling is a transphobe. They didn't ask anyone else to not buy the game, they said they weren't buying it.

But then you started the hypocrisy argument. The person you were replying to didn't start in on anyone else, you did. So which is it?
If they started it its on them if not then harder to tell based on comments because we are on public forums someone is bound to reply in certain ways. The fact is the biggest annoyance in terms of this situations are the people that have the holier then thou mentality (and the trolls claiming they will buy several copies)

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Gremlynn
01/23/23 10:17:03 PM
#158:


topic where the only time i even see this game brought up is people whining about other people boycotting it fucking ten thousand.

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dioxxys
01/23/23 10:31:43 PM
#159:


Balnazarr posted...
You are so mad it's hilarious. Reeing about such a small forum. I didn't see nearly this much shit about subreddit's censoring people or alt-right forums. Just admit who you are. Just admit you hate trans people.
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Ryzen_9_5950X
01/24/23 1:21:26 AM
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The people complaining about it for political reasons are advertising the game to me. It actually looks good enough to warrant a buy.

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Revelation34
01/24/23 3:56:25 AM
#162:


Ryzen_9_5950X posted...
The people complaining about it for political reasons are advertising the game to me. It actually looks good enough to warrant a buy.


Yet people will call you a transphobe over it.

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Ryzen_9_5950X
01/24/23 12:33:17 PM
#163:


Revelation34 posted...
Yet people will call you a transphobe over it.

Yeah and I don't give a shit.

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Heavy_D_Forever
01/24/23 12:35:16 PM
#164:


Ryzen_9_5950X posted...
The people complaining about it for political reasons are advertising the game to me. It actually looks good enough to warrant a buy.
Just 2 more weeks! The closer we get to release the more excited I get. I watched a 30 gameplay walk through with the Devs on YT and the Open World looks fucking great. It's giving off Witcher 3 vibes.

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refmon
01/24/23 12:39:43 PM
#165:


Gwynevere posted...
activism.
not buying a game isnt a form of activism lmao

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Prestoff
01/24/23 3:14:21 PM
#166:


Gwynevere posted...
Okay, but the original comment that started that chain simply said they weren't buying the game because Rowling is a transphobe. They didn't ask anyone else to not buy the game, they said they weren't buying it.

I haven't kept up with the thread but I was basically agreeing with you. There's nothing wrong about choosing your own battles. There's just been multiple topics that went to 500 where people were trying to shame and guilt others by calling them "not a true ally" to trans is when I step my foot down on these types of boycotts. To me, it's no different than those Christians casting judgement on other Christians for not being a "true christian".

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TopGoats
01/24/23 4:22:34 PM
#167:


SaintArnold posted...
Just for this I'll buy multiple copies and boast about to them. Pathetic, LOL.

This is some serious bad juju energy you have going on

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mybbqrules
01/24/23 5:35:25 PM
#168:


Slayer_22 posted...
What's the point of having a video game forum if you ban discussion of video games? I know it's just a specific video game, but the game itself isn't offensive in the slightest. Just seems overly reactionary to someone detached from the game.
Yeah, it pretty much is. Rowling probably isn't even connected to the project in any way other than it using her IP.

Rowling is a transphobic bigot for sure, but jeez, allow the discussion with a disclaimer at the top of the thread.

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tsup-tsup
01/24/23 10:31:29 PM
#169:


Really lame that the PS4 version has a delayed release.

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Revelation34
01/24/23 11:21:19 PM
#170:


mybbqrules posted...

Yeah, it pretty much is. Rowling probably isn't even connected to the project in any way other than it using her IP.

Rowling is a transphobic bigot for sure, but jeez, allow the discussion with a disclaimer at the top of the thread.


I don't get the argument anyway. Why not boycott Warner Brothers for making the game too? Literally nobody in any of these threads has said they would do that. It has only ever been about Rowling.

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hockeybub89
01/25/23 9:37:11 AM
#172:


I know Rowling said she feels vindicated by people buying HP shit, but I have 100% confidence that she isn't going to feel bad about her shitty opinions and stop spending her billions if a game she has no involvement in flops financially. She is unfortunately set for life.

The developers are literally making the game in spite of her, flipping her the bird with their trans options and several trans employees, but JK is too morally void to give a damn.

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Slayer_22
01/25/23 8:12:03 PM
#173:


I am gonna be honest I don't think the 3 bucks she, maximum, from each Hogwarts Legacy sale, is going to affect much of anything.

It could even be lower. I'm not entirely sure. Does anyone know?

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Kim_Seong-a
01/25/23 8:15:54 PM
#174:


hockeybub89 posted...
I know Rowling said she feels vindicated by people buying HP shit, but I have 100% confidence that she isn't going to feel bad about her shitty opinions and stop spending her billions if a game she has no involvement in flops financially.

Yeah, "fuck the haters I got money" is always a worthless response. Anyone who says it is already so self-absorbed that the amount of money they make would have no affect on their beliefs in either direction. It's just an excuse to deflect criticism.

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Revelation34
01/25/23 11:03:40 PM
#175:


hockeybub89 posted...
I know Rowling said she feels vindicated by people buying HP shit, but I have 100% confidence that she isn't going to feel bad about her shitty opinions and stop spending her billions if a game she has no involvement in flops financially. She is unfortunately set for life.

The developers are literally making the game in spite of her, flipping her the bird with their trans options and several trans employees, but JK is too morally void to give a damn.


Somebody asked for proof she actually said that and that post was ignored in another thread. So I'll ask for it again.

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Bass_X0
01/27/23 8:51:17 AM
#177:


https://twitter.com/Kneon/status/1618661902233780224?s=20&t=o2h68rV4-rSAorU-fOVV5g

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Gwynevere
01/27/23 9:00:01 AM
#178:


refmon posted...
not buying a game isnt a form of activism lmao
Literally the only form of capitalist approved activism

You vote with your wallet, or you're not voting

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comicfire
01/27/23 9:00:36 AM
#179:


Revelation34 posted...
Yet people will call you a transphobe over it.

Gleefully advertising that you'll buy a game to spite people asking not to give money to people who want us dead leaves me thinking you're a transphobe, yes

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Revelation34
01/27/23 10:59:43 AM
#180:


Bass_X0 posted...
https://twitter.com/Kneon/status/1618661902233780224?s=20&t=o2h68rV4-rSAorU-fOVV5g


No source posted for the July thing.

comicfire posted...


Gleefully advertising that you'll buy a game to spite people asking not to give money to people who want us dead leaves me thinking you're a transphobe, yes


That's not what that post said.

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Bass_X0
01/27/23 1:17:14 PM
#181:


Revelation34 posted...
No source posted for the July thing.

That's not what that post said.

I dont know about it being July but I can believe that JK Rowling gets a cut of every ticket sold at Universal even if you only visit Nintendo World and not Harry Potter World. They come under the same ticket, right?

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EyeWontBeFooled
01/27/23 1:22:42 PM
#182:


Goddamn, just buy the damn game used/wait for a massive sale. Problem minimized.

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Prestoff
01/27/23 1:25:57 PM
#183:


Bass_X0 posted...
https://twitter.com/Kneon/status/1618661902233780224?s=20&t=o2h68rV4-rSAorU-fOVV5g

#cancelmario

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Heavy_D_Forever
01/27/23 1:30:12 PM
#184:


EyeWontBeFooled posted...
Goddamn, just buy the damn game used/wait for a massive sale. Problem minimized.
Nah, I'm excited for the game and pre-ordered the version that gets you the game 3 days early.

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Baha05
01/27/23 1:35:01 PM
#185:


EyeWontBeFooled posted...
Goddamn, just buy the damn game used/wait for a massive sale. Problem minimized.
But then you are putting money into some corporations if you are buying from a company or someone who bought the game and supported it. Lose lose either way

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EyeWontBeFooled
01/27/23 5:43:19 PM
#186:


Baha05 posted...
But then you are putting money into some corporations if you are buying from a company or someone who bought the game and supported it. Lose lose either way
My city still has local video game stores.

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Revelation34
01/28/23 1:17:22 AM
#187:


EyeWontBeFooled posted...
Goddamn, just buy the damn game used/wait for a massive sale. Problem minimized.


There's no problem regardless.

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MegamanX299
01/28/23 3:13:35 AM
#188:


EyeWontBeFooled posted...
My city still has local video game stores.
Stores that sell hate filled and bigoted products... and they want to kill trans people

If you give them money then you are funding the genocide of trans people.

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Revelation34
01/28/23 5:00:06 AM
#189:


MegamanX299 posted...

Stores that sell hate filled and bigoted products... and they want to kill trans people

If you give them money then you are funding the genocide of trans people.


Stop with the troll posts like this. It makes nobody look good.

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