Current Events > 343 Industries will possibly no longer make Halo games

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Blue_Inigo
01/20/23 2:03:14 PM
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https://www.gamespot.com/amp-articles/343-industries-will-no-longer-make-halo-games-but-will-oversee-outside-development-report/1100-6510721/

Kinda crazy. Theyre not completely separated from it but they are kinda done. End of an era of Halo. Microsoft has really fumbled their mascot and flagship series.

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_MorningStar
01/20/23 2:10:40 PM
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Why have such an ambiguous ending to your own game to then just quit?

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pogo_rabid
01/20/23 2:11:26 PM
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Imagine being handed one of the most desirable and legendary IP's of all time and fucking things up so badly you get to this point.

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agoat
01/20/23 2:11:56 PM
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pogo_rabid posted...
Imagine being handed one of the most desirable and legendary IP's of all time and fucking things up so badly you get to this point.

It's the gamefaqs song

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Ivany2008
01/20/23 2:12:11 PM
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good. Give it to the guys who made Splitgate.
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CADE_FOSTER
01/20/23 2:12:39 PM
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Microshit finally learned there lesson 343 is fucking garbage
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FunkyCat
01/20/23 2:15:12 PM
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A real shame as Infinite could have been great. Had everything there to be great and they fucked it all up.

So only got themselves to blame

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littlebro07
01/20/23 6:58:49 PM
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Infinite has the best gameplay in the series. Its just that almost everything surrounding that foundation is complete shit.

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MJOLNRVII
01/20/23 6:59:40 PM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
End of an era of Halo.
343 sucks so it can only go up from here.

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Kamen_Rider_Blade
01/20/23 7:25:21 PM
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littlebro07 posted...
Infinite has the best gameplay in the series. Its just that almost everything surrounding that foundation is complete shit.

It took "343 Industries" how many Halo games to get to "Halo Infinite" level gameplay?

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AsucaHayashi
01/20/23 7:26:51 PM
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i still don't get the story... is the thing ever gonna end with something that isn't a cliffhanger?

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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy
01/20/23 7:37:37 PM
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I kinda like the idea of Microsoft letting other studios take a Crack at Halo games.

Halo done by id Software? Why not?

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littlebro07
01/20/23 8:51:16 PM
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Kamen_Rider_Blade posted...
It took "343 Industries" how many Halo games to get to "Halo Infinite" level gameplay?

5 was legitimately great too to be honest

4 was trash

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The_X_Dawg
01/20/23 8:55:46 PM
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Damn. It took that many companies to make it?
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Tyranthraxus
01/20/23 8:56:07 PM
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CADE_FOSTER posted...
Microshit finally learned there lesson 343 is fucking garbage

It only took 10 years of mediocre games

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DepreceV2
01/20/23 9:00:03 PM
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Its so strange too. They act like if a story has an ending, time stops moving forward. New things can arise. New stories can be told. You can it up with a bow and begin to start gift wrapping something else.


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Touch
01/20/23 9:03:17 PM
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Coming 2025

Halo Gear Solid

A Kojima Productions Game

Made by Hideo Kojima

Directed by Hideo Kojima

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GeneralKenobi85
01/20/23 9:16:08 PM
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Halo under 343 hasn't had a good launch since Halo 4. There were issues with every single release. Of course the games did eventually turn out very good, but it took an agonizingly long time to get there for both MCC and Halo 5. Infinite would have been the same, but it looks like unfortunately it won't even be getting the chance.

I do think Microsoft probably deserves a large share of the blame, but I don't think the franchise could have been rejuvenated under any developer. Halo had its time and that time is long over. It would have been nice if things worked out better for those who stuck around though.

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ToadallyAwesome
01/20/23 9:21:42 PM
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GeneralKenobi85 posted...
Halo under 343 hasn't had a good launch since Halo 4. There were issues with every single release. Of course the games did eventually turn out very good, but it took an agonizingly long time to get there for both MCC and Halo 5. Infinite would have been the same, but it looks like unfortunately it won't even be getting the chance.

I do think Microsoft probably deserves a large share of the blame, but I don't think the franchise could have been rejuvenated under any developer. Halo had its time and that time is long over. It would have been nice if things worked out better for those who stuck around though.

I mostly agree with this. Halo was combat evolved. But I feel like COD has mutated it and if its not that style then your stuck in the past. You gotta innovate which 343 never seemed to do.

Its surprising that id got it so right with the Doom reboots but that took a different route of updating classic gameplay and wasnt focusing on having a huge multiplayer base after launch.

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Tyranthraxus
01/20/23 9:23:41 PM
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GeneralKenobi85 posted...
Halo under 343 hasn't had a good launch since Halo 4. There were issues with every single release. Of course the games did eventually turn out very good, but it took an agonizingly long time to get there for both MCC and Halo 5. Infinite would have been the same, but it looks like unfortunately it won't even be getting the chance.

I do think Microsoft probably deserves a large share of the blame, but I don't think the franchise could have been rejuvenated under any developer. Halo had its time and that time is long over. It would have been nice if things worked out better for those who stuck around though.

Apparently a former employee blamed incompetent leadership at 343. Not sure how seriously anyone can take the word of a disgruntled ex employee at face value but time frame checks out.

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GeneralKenobi85
01/20/23 9:32:28 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Apparently a former employee blamed incompetent leadership at 343. Not sure how seriously anyone can take the word of a disgruntled ex employee at face value but time frame checks out.
Yeah it's been speculated for a long time that is the primary reason. The longtime head of 343, Bonnie Ross, stepped down months ago I think. The Halo fanbase has never been a big fan of her. With Infinite specifically, I remember reading that contractors put a significant amount of work into the game. But they were of course only there temporarily, so things got messy once they left.

Personally, I was satisfied with Halo ending at Reach. But I still enjoyed the series enough to continue on with 4, 5, and Infinite. I think all of 343's games were ultimately good, but they could have never compared to 1-3. I'm not sure if I'll get that rumored Battle Royale game they're doing because I'm not really interested in those. But I'll keep playing any future standard Halo games regardless of who's developing them.

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Tyranthraxus
01/20/23 9:57:31 PM
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Yeah Microsoft has a bad habit of giving their studios too much autonomy and it takes them way too long to realize there's a mess that needs to be cleaned up.

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pogo_rabid
01/20/23 10:12:15 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Yeah Microsoft has a bad habit of giving their studios too much autonomy and it takes them way too long to realize there's a mess that needs to be cleaned up.
Autonomy isn't necessarily a bad thing. You could be like sony or EA who have a tendency to micromanage their studios which can turn out shit products that feel "built by committee"

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iPhone_7
01/21/23 12:26:55 AM
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They finally made the best gameplay with Halo Infinite and its too bad it didnt have the support it needed at launch.

Story-wise these last three games (4, 5, Infinite) seem so disconnected from one another. Infinites campaign is like the start of a new trilogy.

Its good but very different. It feels like they very much want to leave the memory of 4 & 5 in the past, which I dont blame anybody for, its a mess.

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Mew
01/21/23 12:41:38 AM
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pogo_rabid posted...
Imagine being handed one of the most desirable and legendary IP's of all time and fucking things up so badly you get to this point.


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littlebro07
01/21/23 1:21:14 AM
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iPhone_7 posted...
They finally made the best gameplay with Halo Infinite and its too bad it didnt have the support it needed at launch.

Story-wise these last three games (4, 5, Infinite) seem so disconnected from one another. Infinites campaign is like the start of a new trilogy.

Its good but very different. It feels like they very much want to leave the memory of 4 & 5 in the past, which I dont blame anybody for, its a mess.

Yeah iirc they said back when Infinite was announced that it was essentially a spiritual reboot of the series, with a time skip and you starting the game in the middle of an existing conflict just like the original game.

Couldve worked. Still could I suppose, as said before the game has an amazing foundation. Just give the keys to the right team.


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littlebro07
01/21/23 8:07:56 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/halo/comments/10i2xzm/message_from_pierre_hintze/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

alright so I guess its all just rumors and 343s still in charge of Halo

The new studio head was apparently the guy who led the efforts to make MCC the amazing game it now is so thats promising at least

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