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refmon
01/16/23 4:16:54 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMH1ylxd0dE&t=0s

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lilORANG
01/16/23 4:17:55 PM
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Most online outrage isn't real

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Tyrant442001
01/16/23 4:18:41 PM
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It never was

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FAQ-Checker
01/16/23 4:19:47 PM
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90% of Harry Potter fans have never read a JK Rowling tweet.
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Punished_Blinx
01/16/23 4:20:52 PM
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When it comes to video games online all of the controversies over big games (sometimes not even always big) are treated like they're the biggest thing ever and without fail the game ends up selling gangbusters or succeeding anyway. Despite all of this time people on social media are still overall the vocal minority.

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MetroidGamer666
01/16/23 4:22:06 PM
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FAQ-Checker posted...
90% of Harry Potter fans have never read a JK Rowling tweet.

I still havent because Twitter has a bad format
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UnfairRepresent
01/16/23 4:23:46 PM
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"it goes away if you turn your phone off"

Is such a silly a point. In modern society almost all news and most discourse beyond your immediate surroundings comes via your phone.

The war in Ukraine also "Goes away if you turn your phone off" that doesn't mean the war goes away, it means you're actively ignoring it.

It feels like this criticism was valid in 2004 and it just stuck even as phones and social media developed.

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CyricZ
01/16/23 4:26:32 PM
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Sum up?

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googs19
01/16/23 4:26:48 PM
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As a trans woman I won't personally be buying anything that financially benefits J.K. Rowling.
Though I also understand that just because someone is excited for the game doesn't mean they hate trans people.
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garan
01/16/23 4:27:06 PM
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News flash: the whiners on social media that want to boycott this game are people who would never buy the game in the first place.
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GrandConjuraton
01/16/23 4:27:48 PM
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googs19 posted...
As a trans woman I won't personally be buying anything that financially benefits J.K. Rowling.


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Tyranthraxus
01/16/23 4:27:51 PM
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Okay. I wasn't gonna buy it anyway.

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Gobstoppers12
01/16/23 4:28:31 PM
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CyricZ posted...
Sum up?
It's all just performative outrage that has no meaning in the real world. Which is 100% factual. The whole thing is a social media frenzy.

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ROOTFayth
01/16/23 4:29:25 PM
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friendly reminder that buying hogwarts legacy will guarantee you have a pretty good time
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Smashingpmkns
01/16/23 4:32:25 PM
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The discourse over this game is crazy when you look at the devs track record. This is such an easy game to skip lol

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JuanCarlos1
01/16/23 4:32:32 PM
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googs19 posted...
As a trans woman I won't personally be buying anything that financially benefits J.K. Rowling.
Though I also understand that just because someone is excited for the game doesn't mean they hate trans people.

Im sorry, but also thank you. Do we even know what if she gets a % of sales or just an amount paid up front for use of license?

Still, it will be a drop in the bucket within all that she receives from other HP media, accessories .

Myself Im not crazy about the game, but would like to try it sometime down the road when it goes down to 20 or so.

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Ryzen_9_5950X
01/16/23 4:33:29 PM
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I am actually buying the game because all the people screaming for its cancellation did the complete opposite and got me interested in it.

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HHH_is_the_game
01/16/23 4:34:25 PM
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I was looking at a subreddit where there was an ask trans question about it. One of the users was talking about how JKR has the same stances as hitler, and accusing her of anti-semitism, and asking whether you would support Hitler if he had a game. They said the ONLY difference with Hitler was he was able to act on it.

I didn't object there because it was a trans space and not really the place but I found a real irony in accusing JKR of anti-semitism, and then making the comparison that she is literally equivalent to Hitler.

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ROOTFayth
01/16/23 4:34:31 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
The discourse over this game is crazy when you look at the devs track record. This is such an easy game to skip lol
wait for review I guess is the smart thing to do, buy if good reviews, skip if bad reviews
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Ryzen_9_5950X
01/16/23 4:36:31 PM
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I am also interested in how my rig performs. I expect this game to be quite taxing and it may even be a benchmark for computer hardware reviewers. My PC does meet the recommended specs.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/1/2/AAfUfRAAEFYU.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/1/3/AAfUfRAAEFYV.jpg

System requirements if anyone are interested.

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agoat
01/16/23 4:40:34 PM
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https://youtu.be/l482T0yNkeo

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MetroidGamer666
01/16/23 4:42:02 PM
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Ryzen_9_5950X posted...
I am also interested in how my rig performs. I expect this game to be quite taxing and it may even be a benchmark for computer hardware reviewers. My PC does meet the recommended specs.

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System requirements if anyone are interested.

Ill probably be good with the ultra specs.

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CyricZ
01/16/23 4:43:17 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
It's all just performative outrage that has no meaning in the real world. Which is 100% factual. The whole thing is a social media frenzy.
Sum up by someone who isn't Gob?

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ROOTFayth
01/16/23 4:43:30 PM
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man the other guy is right though, track record of the devs is pretty bad, really gonna have to wait for reviews
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Ryzen_9_5950X
01/16/23 4:43:59 PM
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MetroidGamer666 posted...
Ill probably be good with the ultra specs.

I never do things like motion blur though, thats an awful feature

Yeah I am right at the Ultra specs too. I don't have a 1440p monitor, just a 1080p and a 4k. I think 4k is too much for my rig, but I expect a buttery smooth experience at 1080p.

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wackyteen
01/16/23 4:45:03 PM
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Ryzen_9_5950X posted...
I am actually buying the game because all the people screaming for its cancellation did the complete opposite and got me interested in it.
Honestly, kind of this.

I'd have totally missed out on this game if people had just shut the fuck up about it.

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Punished_Blinx
01/16/23 4:45:38 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
The discourse over this game is crazy when you look at the devs track record. This is such an easy game to skip lol

It'll be hilarious if it's just some 75 metacritic game after all of this.

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ROOTFayth
01/16/23 4:45:50 PM
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CyricZ posted...
Sum up by someone who isn't Gob?

he is essentially saying that when you turn off your phone all these social media frenzies do go away and it doesnt matter, says that he has no problem with people choosing not to buy the game because it goes against their values, and he talks about how labeling people in any way shape or form is a bad thing and just an attempt to silence people and essentially prevents open discourse

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ROOTFayth
01/16/23 4:46:58 PM
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Punished_Blinx posted...
It'll be hilarious if it's just some 75 metacritic game after all of this.
honestly nowadays 75 isnt THAT bad lolol
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Ryzen_9_5950X
01/16/23 4:48:44 PM
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wackyteen posted...
Honestly, kind of this.

I'd have totally missed out on this game if people had just shut the fuck up about it.

I haven't decided if it is going to be a day 1 buy, or wait for sale. I rarely buy games on release since there are probably going to be early issues.

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Smashingpmkns
01/16/23 4:50:47 PM
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From the team that brought you hit games like 25 to Life, Hannah Montana: Spotlight World Tour and Cars 3

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GhostFaceLeaks
01/16/23 4:58:41 PM
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ROOTFayth posted...
honestly nowadays 75 isnt THAT bad lolol

This is 2023. A 75 is considered a bad game. We have higher standards on what is a good game now.

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ROOTFayth
01/16/23 4:59:25 PM
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GhostFaceLeaks posted...
This is 2023. A 75 is considered a bad game. We have higher standards on what is a good game now.
thats the thing though, nowadays barely any game scores over 8, at least user score, i dont give much of a crap about critics
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Suolevram
01/16/23 5:00:25 PM
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I wouldn't be surprised if it was just people of CE

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HHH_is_the_game
01/16/23 5:01:04 PM
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the thing is if people played harry potter games back when they came out they were never even close to good - so for Harry Potter fans this game is still a huge deal. Even if it's just average it will still be the best and biggest Harry Potter game ever created, and the only one to try to really immerse you in the world.

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Smashingpmkns
01/16/23 5:03:12 PM
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The only good Harry Potter game is the EA Sports Quidditch game. The rest of them are trash. This game will also be trash.

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Punished_Blinx
01/16/23 5:04:08 PM
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It should probably also be pointed out that WB Games ain't exactly a great publisher either. Gotham Knights was a stinker and I'm not getting my hopes up over Suicide Squad either.

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ROOTFayth
01/16/23 5:04:58 PM
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cmon smashingpmkns, we dont know yet if it will be trash, the trailers dont look too bad so far, lets wait and see
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JuanCarlos1
01/16/23 5:08:16 PM
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GhostFaceLeaks posted...
This is 2023. A 75 is considered a bad game. We have higher standards on what is a good game now.

Its always been like this. A 5 has never meant okay or even worth to play. But 70 and up is where a game is usually worth playing and mileage may vary, but its usually not a great game and not worth to spend 60-70 on it.

But 70-75 for such a hyped game is usually a critical failure

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Smashingpmkns
01/16/23 5:10:25 PM
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I feel like I'm watching different gameplay footage than everyone else cuz the combat looks so unengaging. You basically walk into different combat "arenas" and stand still while hitting various face buttons. I'm actually not sure what people think looks good about this game other than the IP.

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ROOTFayth
01/16/23 5:11:12 PM
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yeah I pretty much never play games below 8 but I played Star Ocean 6 and finished it and it ended up being rated 6.3 which I feel is probably a little too low, it really wasnt that bad
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NoxObscuras
01/16/23 5:16:14 PM
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Listened to a bit of it and I get the gist of it. I disagree with him for the most part. Yes, social media allows for one person to gain a huge platform and appear to be speaking for a larger group than they really are. But there are actually a sizeable amount of LGBTQ+ individuals and supporters that have completely stopped purchasing anything related to JK Rowling. And that includes this game.

I especially disagree with his statement that the drama goes away when you turn off your phone. That's basically sticking your fingers in your ears and trying to pretend the problems no longer exist. It doesn't erase the drama, you're just ignoring it.

I will say though, that not everyone that's boycotting the game, is angry at people that are buying the game. So that part has some truth to it. People shouldn't assume that everyone holds those extreme views, just because they see a tweet.

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Zikten
01/16/23 5:22:00 PM
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Why was there never an attempt to boycott Star Wars? Lucas was anti gay when he owned it. There used to be a rule that nobody in the galaxy was gay. Lucas stated that gay people just do not exist in the star wars galaxy

The rule was kept from the release of A New Hope all the way til he sold Star Wars. The first gay people to exist in star wars were characters in an expansion for The Old Republic mmo. Even the initial launch of that game originally denied gay people

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GrandConjuraton
01/16/23 5:22:06 PM
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HHH_is_the_game posted...
the thing is if people played harry potter games back when they came out they were never even close to good - so for Harry Potter fans this game is still a huge deal. Even if it's just average it will still be the best and biggest Harry Potter game ever created, and the only one to try to really immerse you in the world.
I loved most of the games when I was little and have played Sorcerer's Stone/Chamber of Secrets PS1 multitudes of times over the years. No, they're not masterpieces, but I always found them charming and enjoyed them every time.

If it means denying JK Bigot even just a little bit of further profit, I'll gladly skip Legacy.

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Smashingpmkns
01/16/23 5:29:33 PM
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Zikten posted...
Why was there never an attempt to boycott Star Wars? Lucas was anti gay when he owned it. There used to be a rule that nobody in the galaxy was gay. Lucas stated that gay people just do not exist in the star wars galaxy

The rule was kept from the release of A New Hope all the way til he sold Star Wars. The first gay people to exist in star wars were characters in an expansion for The Old Republic mmo. Even the initial launch of that game originally denied gay people

But I never heard of anyone trying to start a boycott.
I don't think this is true.

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Doom_Art
01/16/23 5:30:58 PM
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ROOTFayth posted...
cmon smashingpmkns, we dont know yet if it will be trash, the trailers dont look too bad so far, lets wait and see
Smash has been weirdly invested in hating this game lol

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Zikten
01/16/23 5:31:47 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
I don't think this is true.
I used to play The Old Republic, and everyone was talking about this. It was a big deal when they added in gay romances. Lucas forbid them. He just never went on Twitter about it like Rowling
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FaultyCircuitry
01/16/23 5:35:50 PM
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ROOTFayth posted...
he talks about how labeling people in any way shape or form is a bad thing and just an attempt to silence people and essentially prevents open discourse

this is some dumb af peak liberal nonsense

if someone is aligning themselves with terf ideologies, they are a terf. end of.

no need to have open discourse with people that want us dead

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Smashingpmkns
01/16/23 5:37:37 PM
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I feel like I've justified my criticism of this game pretty well over the last few topics tbh

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