Current Events > MCU post-Endgame feels completely uninteresting imo

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speaking as a casual fan. it all feels like that 9th season of scrubs.

Its a feast for crows after a storm of swords. Need to rebuild, introduce new players, cant compare to infinity war and endgame which were the mcu peak, need to compare to the mcu average

Endgame brought such a level of finality to the universe that I have almost zero desire to watch any of the movies since.

I feel like Endgame was uninteresting except the very end. A lot of it was guessed after Infinity War which was annoying.

Blue_Popo posted...

Its a feast for crows after a storm of swords. Need to rebuild, introduce new players, cant compare to infinity war and endgame which were the mcu peak, need to compare to the mcu average

Was gonna say this.

We're sort of in a new introductory phase where we're resetting the status quo going forward. It's very similiar to Phase 1. Everybody is kind of doing their own thing in their own pockets of the universe, and there hasn't been a major event yet to bring everybody together. And that's fair because they're still trying to build up Kang the way they did for Thanos.

People forget that Phase 1 and 2 were largely middle-of-the-road MCU films outside of like 4-5 movies.

Spiderman managed to coast on nostalgia and that was pretty awesome, but that's kind of blowing it's load there. Loki was legitimately pretty interesting though.

Its like when a sports team wins a championship and the bandwagon fans think every year following is a championship or bust

YoBlazer posted...

Endgame brought such a level of finality to the universe that I have almost zero desire to watch any of the movies since.

exactly, i didn't see any narrative reason to continue.

Blue_Popo posted...

Its a feast for crows after a storm of swords. Need to rebuild, introduce new players, cant compare to infinity war and endgame which were the mcu peak, need to compare to the mcu average

the new players just aren't as interesting

as someone who reads the comics, I find this hard to understand. There was nothing final about Endgame. Hell, one could argue the entire mcu up to Endgame is just a prologue, to set up the true universe where everyone is all teaming up now

In the comics, they have events like Endgame, like every year. Then it calms down, all the heroes go back to their own business, until the next major threat. Thanos is not the only mega villain out there, and the mcu still have barely scratched the surface of global threats or events from the comics that they can use.

saffronne posted...

exactly, i didn't see any narrative reason to continue.

the new players just aren't as interesting

For some people having non white man mains is tough, I get it (I dont actually). Also there is revisionist history that thor, captain america, hawkeye were good characters in their first outings

Yeah they gotta rebuild and continue. It takes time but itll be worth it. mcu has laid the next movies out already and itll be fantastic by the end of another mcu journey.

Antman quantumania might kickoff the mcu blockbuster movies and the Avengers are returning soon after!

I think hype will rebuild once the trailer for Kang Dynasty drops.

Literally exactly what happened with Infinity War. Casual fans showed up out of nowhere as soon as that trailer dropped.

Probably won't be interested until they introduce the X-Men

Zikten posted...

as someone who reads the comics, I find this hard to understand. There was nothing final about Endgame. Hell, one could argue the entire mcu up to Endgame is just a prologue, to set up the true universe where everyone is all teaming up now

In the comics, they have events like Endgame, like every year. Then it calms down, all the heroes go back to their own business, until the next major threat. Thanos is not the only mega villain out there, and the mcu still have barely scratched the surface of global threats or events from the comics that they can use.

That's why comics aren't popular anymore.

Zikten posted...

as someone who reads the comics, I find this hard to understand. There was nothing final about Endgame. Hell, one could argue the entire mcu up to Endgame is just a prologue, to set up the true universe where everyone is all teaming up now

In the comics, they have events like Endgame, like every year. Then it calms down, all the heroes go back to their own business, until the next major threat. Thanos is not the only mega villain out there, and the mcu still have barely scratched the surface of global threats or events from the comics that they can use.

If someone wants to tap out at endgame because they felt it was a good ending point, thats cool. It wrapped up an arc great

When people say mcu should have ended at mcu, thats dumb. They barely used a fraction of the material and marvel comics never began and ended with iron man and thanos

There is no 9th season of Scrubs.



I repeat, there is no 9th season of Scrubs.

I've enjoyed most of it, especially the shows. I've been heaving into the comic book reading the last few years and burned through hundreds, so seeing some characters pop up here and there is always cool to see and having a general idea of a lot of the stories helps.

Biggest thing is the lack of any kind of glue connecting everything. You could feel things were leading towards something before, but so far the set up is pretty eh and requires keeping up with a bunch of TV shows not everyone is going to want to watch. I was kind of expecting Peter to be the connecting force, but they instead turned him into generic boring Spider-Man.

Smashingpmkns posted...

Probably won't be interested until they introduce the X-Men

This will always be funny to me because dr strange 2, thor love and thunder and black panther wakanda forever made more than any of the xmen movies ever did

Nemu posted...

Biggest thing is the lack of any kind of glue connecting everything. You could feel things were leading towards something before, but so far the set up is pretty eh and requires keeping up with a bunch of TV shows not everyone is going to want to watch. I was kind of expecting Peter to be the connecting force, but they instead turned him into generic boring Spider-Man.

The current era of mcu is setting up the idea of the multiverse. Supposedly the multiverse will be a major part of the next Avengers movie

Irony posted...

I feel like Endgame was uninteresting except the very end. A lot of it was guessed after Infinity War which was annoying.

It was. Endgame had so much wasted time and wasn't nearly as good as Infinity War.

Zikten posted...

as someone who reads the comics, I find this hard to understand. There was nothing final about Endgame. Hell, one could argue the entire mcu up to Endgame is just a prologue, to set up the true universe where everyone is all teaming up now

In the comics, they have events like Endgame, like every year. Then it calms down, all the heroes go back to their own business, until the next major threat. Thanos is not the only mega villain out there, and the mcu still have barely scratched the surface of global threats or events from the comics that they can use.

That sounds really cool, but the main problem is that the movies that came after Endgame aren't really good to begin with except for Spiderman.

Blue_Popo posted...

This will always be funny to me because dr strange 2, thor love and thunder and black panther wakanda forever made more than any of the xmen movies ever did

Which has nothing to do with that guy being excited to see MCU X-Men

Cthulhu_Fhtagn posted...

Which has nothing to do with that guy being excited to see MCU X-Men

Well I wonder if that guy watched Doctor Strange 2...

Zikten posted...

Well I wonder if that guy watched Doctor Strange 2...

Yeah because that movie is real great for anyone who's only interested in seeing X-Men. Also nothing to do it being funny that the recent mcu movies made more money than Foxmen.

Blue_Popo posted...

This will always be funny to me because dr strange 2, thor love and thunder and black panther wakanda forever made more than any of the xmen movies ever did

Sad that none of them were as good as X-Men 2

castrejon04 posted...

That sounds really cool, but the main problem is that the movies that came after Endgame aren't really good to begin with except for Spiderman.

Thats your opinion and youre entitled to it but the movies after endgame are no different in quality than the ones before it. If you compare them to infinity war and endgame than sure they are worse but if you compare them to the average of the mcu they are still there

Is thor 4 worse than dark world? Is dr strange 2 worse than doctor strange 1? Shang chi is probably better than most of the origin stories. Wakanda forever is better than most

Cthulhu_Fhtagn posted...

Yeah because that movie is real great for anyone who's only interested in seeing X-Men. Also nothing to do it being funny that the recent mcu movies made more money than Foxmen.

It confirms future plans is my point. But they also confirmed it outside the movies, years ago. We already know the xmen are coming. We just don't know exactly when

Smashingpmkns posted...

Sad that none of them were as good as X-Men 2

Nostalgia, but youre entitled to that opinion

Blue_Popo posted...

Is thor 4 worse than dark world?

Yes. Thor 4 is horrific. It butchered the comic story it is based on.

Zikten posted...

Yes. Thor 4 is horrific. It butchered the comic story it is based on.

Thor 4 is low on my mcu list so I wont argue for it. I do think its better than dark world but dont care enough

In thor 4, Gorr should have attacked that God City. We could have gotten a good mass butchering scene. We only see him kill 1 god in the entire movie. In the comics, he wiped out entire pantheons. Alwo the comic story takes thousands of years. The movie is all set across like a couple days in modern times

In the comic, Gorr starts his mission in the ancient past, he is immortal after he gets that sword. Thor first encounters evidence of Gorr in the viking era on earth when a native American god washes up on a European shore, murdered

another scene they could have taken from the comic

Gorr uses blood from Time Gods, to go back to the dawn of the universe, where he finds one of the first gods to ever exist. A giant baby is sitting on a floating rock in space, making crude creatures out of mud. Gorr kills it. That would have looked cool in the movie

I just look forward to new spidermans now

That's because it was a grand finale of sorts for people following since 2008, it was 11 years in the making and as such obviously they're gonna lose a good chunk of their prior auidence who dipped with that movie and have to build a new one. The same thing happened to Star Wars and in video game world, Kingdom Hearts and Guilty Gear, Sora's story goes on but everything involving the antagonist is over with, Sol's story is over and so for long time Guilty Gear fans there's no reason to care and soon anime wise, Ash, Pikachu, Team Rocket and all their companions will be gone and it'll be on Riko and her friends from now on. Or better yet a more common example, Beyblade and Yugioh, how many people continued to watch those shows after they stopped following Tyson and the bladebreakers and Yugi Muto and his friends?

tremain07 posted...

That's because it was a grand finale of sorts for people following since 2008, it was 11 years in the making and as such obviously they're gonna lose a good chunk of their prior auidence who dipped with that movie and have to build a new one. The same thing happened to Star Wars and in video game world, Kingdom Hearts and Guilty Gear, Sora's story goes on but everything involving the antagonist is over with, Sol's story is over and so for long time Guilty Gear fans there's no reason to care and soon anime wise, Ash, Pikachu, Team Rocket and all their companions will be gone and it'll be on Riko and her friends from now on. Or better yet a more common example, Beyblade and Yugioh, how many people continued to watch those shows after they stopped following Tyson and the bladebreakers and Yugi Muto and his friends?

Yeah once you hit the peak, people expect everything after to be the peak. We're in a valley of sorts (but not the biggest valley in my opinion)

I think phase 4 was mostly used as build-up to phases 5 and 6.