prices aren't keeping up

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Akagami_Shanks 01/14/23 3:37:13 AM #1:	Unless you use a slow HDD, the realm of large capacity SSDs is largely(excuse the pun) too expensive to keep up. Even a 2TB SSD which still costs like $150+ for a name brand one, won't last you too long. If you download GTA V and RDR2 and COD MW2 thats already like a third of the storage taken up lol --- yes <cite>Akagami_Shanks posted [p:970833176] in Modern gam... [t:80311438]...</cite> <quote>Unless you use a slow HDD, the realm of large capacity SSDs is largely(excuse the pun) too expensive to keep up. Even a 2TB SSD which still costs like $150+ for a name brand one, won't last you too long. If you download GTA V and RDR2 and COD MW2 thats already like a third of the storage taken up lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Humble_Novice 01/14/23 3:40:26 AM #2:	I agree that it's becoming too much. If you ask me, players should accept that games don't have to be absolutely realistic or expensive to be of high quality since it's so subjective these days. <cite>Humble_Novice posted [p:970833199] in Modern gam... [t:80311438]...</cite> <quote>I agree that it's becoming too much. If you ask me, players should accept that games don't have to be absolutely realistic or expensive to be of high quality since it's so subjective these days.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Akagami_Shanks 01/14/23 3:44:13 AM #3:	can't believe they gave that pitiful low SSD size in the ps5 lmao, 667 usable gigs and then didn't want to unlock the m.2 drive until later on... that 667 gigs goes in a second I don't think we can take another ballooning game size leap. I saw Mass Effect legendary edition takes up 120 gigs on steam and i removed it from my cart. Don't have that room to spare on steam deck. --- yes <cite>Akagami_Shanks posted [p:970833220] in Modern gam... [t:80311438]...</cite> <quote>can't believe they gave that pitiful low SSD size in the ps5 lmao, 667 usable gigs and then didn't want to unlock the m.2 drive until later on... that 667 gigs goes in a secondI don't think we can take another ballooning game size leap. I saw Mass Effect legendary edition takes up 120 gigs on steam and i removed it from my cart. Don't have that room to spare on steam deck. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ricemills 01/14/23 4:13:34 AM #4:	developers doesn't optimized their game to fit inside a physical media anymore. --- You have the right to remain silent. Anything you posted will be misquoted, then be used against you. http://error1355.com/ce/Ricemills.html <cite>Ricemills posted [p:970833412] in Modern gam... [t:80311438]...</cite> <quote>developers doesn't optimized their game to fit inside a physical media anymore.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GuerrillaSoldier 01/14/23 4:54:13 AM #5:	it would be nice if we were allowed to choose which install we wanted. i don't want to play every game ever on ultra high, my rig can't even run most of them anyway. it would be nice if i could just install low versions, save a lot of space. --- Disclaimer: There's a good chance the above post could be sarcasm. Die-hard Oakland A's fan --- Keep the A's in Oakland! <cite>GuerrillaSoldier posted [p:970833641] in Modern gam... [t:80311438]...</cite> <quote>it would be nice if we were allowed to choose which install we wanted. i don't want to play every game ever on ultra high, my rig can't even run most of them anyway. it would be nice if i could just install low versions, save a lot of space.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prismsblade 01/14/23 5:04:06 AM #6:	Yea, the mass effect trilogy took up the last 100gb of data on my ps5. And I had to delete a few games just for room to download that. If cost cutting was a issue they could have just released more expensive versions with higher storage capacities to offset it. --- 3DS FC:3368-5403-9633 Name: Kaizer PSN: Blackkaizer <cite>Prismsblade posted [p:970833680] in Modern gam... [t:80311438]...</cite> <quote>Yea, the mass effect trilogy took up the last 100gb of data on my ps5. And I had to delete a few games just for room to download that.If cost cutting was a issue they could have just released more expensive versions with higher storage capacities to offset it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Noumas 01/14/23 5:30:44 AM #8:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Wasn't it gold and silver and how that one famous Nintendo dude literally showed them how to add Kanto to the games overnight? <cite>Noumas posted [p:970833841] in Modern gam... [t:80311438]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Wasn't it gold and silver and how that one famous Nintendo dude literally showed them how to add Kanto to the games overnight?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kloe_Rinz 01/14/23 5:32:49 AM #9:	Optimisation, among other things including testing, are not focused on as much nowadays. Its cheaper to just not do it and weather the controversy of a shitty release <cite>Kloe_Rinz posted [p:970833847] in Modern gam... [t:80311438]...</cite> <quote>Optimisation, among other things including testing, are not focused on as much nowadays. Its cheaper to just not do it and weather the controversy of a shitty release </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Akagami_Shanks 01/14/23 6:33:13 AM #11:	nice --- yes <cite>Akagami_Shanks posted [p:970834217] in Modern gam... [t:80311438]...</cite> <quote>nice</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DirtyComputer 01/14/23 6:34:29 AM #12:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] [LFAQs-redacted-quote] Yea, they know they can bloat and just say oh you need better specs. --- But I really, really want to thank you for dancing 'til the end They/Them <cite>DirtyComputer posted [p:970834225] in Modern gam... [t:80311438]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> <cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Yea, they know they can bloat and just say oh you need better specs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar_the_1 01/14/23 6:42:18 AM #13:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Not just that. For the better part of a decade at least, games haven't been doing much at all in terms of optimizing rendering. They just throw all the geometry on there and demand players have strong enough GPUs. --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent <cite>scar_the_1 posted [p:970834279] in Modern gam... [t:80311438]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Not just that. For the better part of a decade at least, games haven't been doing much at all in terms of optimizing rendering. They just throw all the geometry on there and demand players have strong enough GPUs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
St0rmFury 01/14/23 6:54:36 AM #14:	I thought most of the storage is for voice acting and other audio related stuff. --- "Average Joe" is a trolling term since it's completely an opinion. "Overachieving" is also an opinion. - SBAllen (Hellhole: 52458377) <cite>St0rmFury posted [p:970834340] in Modern gam... [t:80311438]...</cite> <quote>I thought most of the storage is for voice acting and other audio related stuff.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar_the_1 01/14/23 7:33:38 AM #15:	St0rmFury posted... I thought most of the storage is for voice acting and other audio related stuff. I'd wager that most of it is graphical assets. Audio doesn't take up a lot of space. --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent <cite>scar_the_1 posted [p:970834597] in Modern gam... [t:80311438]...</cite> <quote>St0rmFury posted... </cite><quote>I thought most of the storage is for voice acting and other audio related stuff.</quote>I'd wager that most of it is graphical assets. Audio doesn't take up a lot of space.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scar_the_1 01/14/23 1:18:33 PM #17:	Back at uni a former colleague of mine who taught 3D programming made a nifty little tool that would observe the GPU memory and show what's stored there, as well as what's rendered. He looked at a lot of AAA games and the conclusion was pretty frustrating. All the optimizations and cool tricks we learned about were completely ignored, they just brute force rendered everything. --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent <cite>scar_the_1 posted [p:970839397] in Modern gam... [t:80311438]...</cite> <quote>Back at uni a former colleague of mine who taught 3D programming made a nifty little tool that would observe the GPU memory and show what's stored there, as well as what's rendered. He looked at a lot of AAA games and the conclusion was pretty frustrating. All the optimizations and cool tricks we learned about were completely ignored, they just brute force rendered everything.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 01/14/23 1:22:42 PM #18:	my current laptop actually has half the space my old laptop did. All because the old one had a HDD, amd now I have a SSD. And apparently SSD storage is more expensive so laptop makers cut down on what they give you. I nevervran out of space on my old laptop. But my new one has this problem <cite>Zikten posted [p:970839469] in Modern gam... [t:80311438]...</cite> <quote>my current laptop actually has half the space my old laptop did. All because the old one had a HDD, amd now I have a SSD. And apparently SSD storage is more expensive so laptop makers cut down on what they give you. I nevervran out of space on my old laptop. But my new one has this problem </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lebronwon 01/14/23 1:23:43 PM #19:	Ricemills posted... developers doesn't optimized their game to fit inside a physical media anymore. --- Not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6, not 7 <cite>Lebronwon posted [p:970839491] in Modern gam... [t:80311438]...</cite> <quote>Ricemills posted... </cite><quote>developers doesn't optimized their game to fit inside a physical media anymore.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivany2008 01/14/23 1:26:00 PM #20:	It's getting to the point where a NAS isn't out of the realm of possibility in literally every gamers home. <cite>Ivany2008 posted [p:970839544] in Modern gam... [t:80311438]...</cite> <quote>It's getting to the point where a NAS isn't out of the realm of possibility in literally every gamers home.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dakimakura 01/14/23 1:28:49 PM #21:	A lot of the space goes into the audio. Which I would not want to compromise and have compressed audio in my game. --- This is signature Not waste of data at all <cite>Dakimakura posted [p:970839598] in Modern gam... [t:80311438]...</cite> <quote>A lot of the space goes into the audio. Which I would not want to compromise and have compressed audio in my game.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 01/14/23 1:29:26 PM #22:	Ricemills posted... developers doesn't optimized their game to fit inside a physical media anymore. Nintendo, and that's about it. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:970839605] in Modern gam... [t:80311438]...</cite> <quote>Ricemills posted... </cite><quote>developers doesn't optimized their game to fit inside a physical media anymore.</quote>Nintendo, and that's about it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MarthGoomba 01/14/23 1:33:27 PM #23:	I don't have a problem with storage because I don't play bad games. I only have 3TB total but I have 4 RPGs, 3 MMORPGs, and a ton of VNs and platformers installed, and still have plenty of room left. 1.3TB being occupied by my idol video/pic collection I still have no storage issues. --- https://i.imgur.com/m6Rgs8D.jpg https://i.imgur.com/qUMZhdW.jpg https://i.imgur.com/LACtH6q.jpg <cite>MarthGoomba posted [p:970839689] in Modern gam... [t:80311438]...</cite> <quote>I don't have a problem with storage because I don't play bad games. I only have 3TB total but I have 4 RPGs, 3 MMORPGs, and a ton of VNs and platformers installed, and still have plenty of room left. 1.3TB being occupied by my idol video/pic collection I still have no storage issues.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 01/14/23 1:34:22 PM #24:	MarthGoomba posted... I don't have a problem with storage because I don't play bad games. I only have 3TB total but I have 4 RPGs, 3 MMORPGs, and a ton of VNs and platformers installed, and still have plenty of room left. 1.3TB being occupied by my idol video/pic collection I still have no storage issues. 3 TB sounds nice. My laptop has only about 500 something GB <cite>Zikten posted [p:970839702] in Modern gam... [t:80311438]...</cite> <quote>MarthGoomba posted... </cite><quote>I don't have a problem with storage because I don't play bad games. I only have 3TB total but I have 4 RPGs, 3 MMORPGs, and a ton of VNs and platformers installed, and still have plenty of room left. 1.3TB being occupied by my idol video/pic collection I still have no storage issues.</quote>3 TB sounds nice. My laptop has only about 500 something GB</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Payzmaykr 01/14/23 1:36:54 PM #25:	Yeah, I agree. Games are massive and external storage isnt cheap. <cite>Payzmaykr posted [p:970839749] in Modern gam... [t:80311438]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, I agree. Games are massive and external storage isnt cheap. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
a-c-a-b 01/14/23 1:45:52 PM #26:	That reminds me I need to get another external storage device for games. A 2TB one fills up pretty fucking fast these days. --- Save for your doomed future <cite>a-c-a-b posted [p:970839901] in Modern gam... [t:80311438]...</cite> <quote>That reminds me I need to get another external storage device for games.A 2TB one fills up pretty fucking fast these days.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
modena 01/14/23 2:01:38 PM #27:	Just a racing game like Horizon is over 100GB now --- I'm surrounded <cite>modena posted [p:970840199] in Modern gam... [t:80311438]...</cite> <quote>Just a racing game like Horizon is over 100GB now</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FL81 01/14/23 2:04:05 PM #28:	I bought myself a nice tiny, cheap 5 TB external HDD on Black Friday if I had more desk space, I'd've gotten the 14 TB one --- https://i.imgur.com/TGkNCva.gif <cite>FL81 posted [p:970840257] in Modern gam... [t:80311438]...</cite> <quote>I bought myself a nice tiny, cheap 5 TB external HDD on Black Fridayif I had more desk space, I'd've gotten the 14 TB one </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 01/14/23 9:14:24 PM #29:	Noumas posted... Wasn't it gold and silver and how that one famous Nintendo dude literally showed them how to add Kanto to the games overnight? That was the late, former Nintendo President and Satoru Iwata. He went in and compressed Game Freak's work enough so that they had the space to add Kanto. --- 11/8/2022 - The day the Blue Wall intercepted the Red Wave. <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:970848667] in Modern gam... [t:80311438]...</cite> <quote>Noumas posted... </cite><quote>Wasn't it gold and silver and how that one famous Nintendo dude literally showed them how to add Kanto to the games overnight?</quote>That was the late, former Nintendo President and Satoru Iwata. He went in and compressed Game Freak's work enough so that they had the space to add Kanto.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumpo 01/14/23 9:37:35 PM #30:	Ivany2008 posted... It's getting to the point where a NAS isn't out of the realm of possibility in literally every gamers home. NAS drives are noisy as fuck --- Lancool II \| Z690 Tomahawk \|12700K \| Fuma 2 \| RTX 3070Ti \| 16GB 3600MHz \| FireCuda 530 1TB \| Inland NVMe 1TB \| RM750x <cite>Trumpo posted [p:970849165] in Modern gam... [t:80311438]...</cite> <quote>Ivany2008 posted... </cite><quote>It's getting to the point where a NAS isn't out of the realm of possibility in literally every gamers home.</quote>NAS drives are noisy as fuck</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YoungMutual 01/14/23 9:41:09 PM #31:	Akagami_Shanks posted... If you download GTA V and RDR2 and COD MW2 See, that's the problem, don't play garbage games and problem solved --- YoungMutual <cite>YoungMutual posted [p:970849241] in Modern gam... [t:80311438]...</cite> <quote>Akagami_Shanks posted... </cite><quote>If you download GTA V and RDR2 and COD MW2</quote>See, that's the problem, don't play garbage games and problem solved</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WilliamPorygon 01/14/23 9:48:26 PM #32:	Back in my day we had 64K of ram and games came on 1.44M floppy disks and we were happy with it, dammit! --- Dolphins are people too! https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1404-cetacea-cove <cite>WilliamPorygon posted [p:970849379] in Modern gam... [t:80311438]...</cite> <quote>Back in my day we had 64K of ram and games came on 1.44M floppy disks and we were happy with it, dammit!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gasgpmo 01/14/23 9:54:27 PM #33:	MarthGoomba posted... I don't have a problem with storage because I don't play bad games. MarthGoomba posted... I have 4 RPGs, 3 MMORPGs, and a ton of VNs and platformers installed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8QRExBfQhs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR4P8o95WPA <cite>gasgpmo posted [p:970849500] in Modern gam... [t:80311438]...</cite> <quote>MarthGoomba posted... </cite><quote>I don't have a problem with storage because I don't play bad games.</quote>MarthGoomba posted... </cite><quote>I have 4 RPGs, 3 MMORPGs, and a ton of VNs and platformers installed</quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8QRExBfQhshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR4P8o95WPA</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kirbymuncher 01/14/23 9:55:38 PM #34:	scar_the_1 posted... I'd wager that most of it is graphical assets. Audio doesn't take up a lot of space. audio can add up to a fair bit if you compress it poorly (or not at all) and you're a game with a a lot of total audio length having just a variety of voice quips, for an entire cast of characters, can add up fast --- THIS IS WHAT I HATE A BOUT EVREY WEBSITE!! THERES SO MUCH PEOPLE READING AND POSTING STUIPED STUFF <cite>kirbymuncher posted [p:970849524] in Modern gam... [t:80311438]...</cite> <quote>scar_the_1 posted... </cite><quote>I'd wager that most of it is graphical assets. Audio doesn't take up a lot of space.</quote>audio can add up to a fair bit if you compress it poorly (or not at all) and you're a game with a a lot of total audio lengthhaving just a variety of voice quips, for an entire cast of characters, can add up fast</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar_the_1 01/15/23 3:29:16 AM #35:	kirbymuncher posted... audio can add up to a fair bit if you compress it poorly (or not at all) and you're a game with a a lot of total audio length having just a variety of voice quips, for an entire cast of characters, can add up fast Oh yeah, if it's entirely uncompressed it can be pretty big. --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent <cite>scar_the_1 posted [p:970854889] in Modern gam... [t:80311438]...</cite> <quote>kirbymuncher posted... </cite><quote>audio can add up to a fair bit if you compress it poorly (or not at all) and you're a game with a a lot of total audio lengthhaving just a variety of voice quips, for an entire cast of characters, can add up fast</quote>Oh yeah, if it's entirely uncompressed it can be pretty big.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KobeSystem 01/15/23 3:42:03 AM #36:	Gamers! --- http://www.last.fm/user/KobeSystem92 \| https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1350834593843314690/EnpFvstZ_400x400.jpg WIN SEXANGELS GREATKERZ <cite>KobeSystem posted [p:970854987] in Modern gam... [t:80311438]...</cite> <quote>Gamers!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Akagami_Shanks 01/15/23 8:53:19 AM #37:	YoungMutual posted... See, that's the problem, don't play garbage games and problem solved the only one thats garbage is Mw2 --- yes <cite>Akagami_Shanks posted [p:970856989] in Modern gam... [t:80311438]...</cite> <quote>YoungMutual posted... </cite><quote>See, that's the problem, don't play garbage games and problem solved</quote>the only one thats garbage is Mw2 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
omniryu 01/15/23 8:59:04 AM #38:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Sony's Spiderman did some ram bandwidth techniques --- PSN/XBL: OMNIRYU; Rooting for Zio to find love and Switch FC: 5419 6809 0486 friendship <cite>omniryu posted [p:970857070] in Modern gam... [t:80311438]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Sony's Spiderman did some ram bandwidth techniques </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZevLoveDOOM 01/15/23 9:00:58 AM #39:	SSDs need to lower their price more for real. like cm'on, how am i still paying 100 bucks for a 1TB SSD when i can get 4tb HDD at the same price? lol <cite>ZevLoveDOOM posted [p:970857098] in Modern gam... [t:80311438]...</cite> <quote>SSDs need to lower their price more for real.like cm'on, how am i still paying 100 bucks for a 1TB SSD when i can get 4tb HDD at the same price? lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kloe_Rinz 01/15/23 9:14:59 AM #40:	ZevLoveDOOM posted... SSDs need to lower their price more for real. like cm'on, how am i still paying 100 bucks for a 1TB SSD when i can get 4tb HDD at the same price? lol cause the speed is more valuable <cite>Kloe_Rinz posted [p:970857259] in Modern gam... [t:80311438]...</cite> <quote>ZevLoveDOOM posted... </cite><quote>SSDs need to lower their price more for real.like cm'on, how am i still paying 100 bucks for a 1TB SSD when i can get 4tb HDD at the same price? lol</quote>cause the speed is more valuable </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
loafy013 01/15/23 9:38:53 AM #41:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] One of the most important things I remember learning in school is that having limits can really boost creative thinking. That was more in regards to writing, but I've heard the stories of programmers who came up with some really nice solutions to work around memory limitations. There is no real incentive now with everything being saved to a drive. Don't even need to fit it on a disc, just enough information to start downloading the rest. --- The ball is round, the game lasts 90 minutes. That's fact. Everything else, is theory. <cite>loafy013 posted [p:970857531] in Modern gam... [t:80311438]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> One of the most important things I remember learning in school is that having limits can really boost creative thinking. That was more in regards to writing, but I've heard the stories of programmers who came up with some really nice solutions to work around memory limitations. There is no real incentive now with everything being saved to a drive. Don't even need to fit it on a disc, just enough information to start downloading the rest.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Akagami_Shanks 01/15/23 9:45:09 AM #42:	i feel like in general devs have moved away from cool easter eggs and stuff in favor of pumping out the latest derivative drivel that their publisher is forcing them to do. Like you can go back to an old game and theres just a certain charm it has, and then you go to a modern game and it just feels like everything else that comes out. --- yes <cite>Akagami_Shanks posted [p:970857608] in Modern gam... [t:80311438]...</cite> <quote>i feel like in general devs have moved away from cool easter eggs and stuff in favor of pumping out the latest derivative drivel that their publisher is forcing them to do. Like you can go back to an old game and theres just a certain charm it has, and then you go to a modern game and it just feels like everything else that comes out. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kirbymuncher 01/15/23 9:53:08 AM #43:	Akagami_Shanks posted... i feel like in general devs have moved away from cool easter eggs and stuff in favor of pumping out the latest derivative drivel that their publisher is forcing them to do. I'd attribute this to how much more effort any given thing in a game takes to make nowadays. A silly joke mode/sprite change that takes someone a day to make is one thing, but a silly joke model change that takes artists and programmers and designers multiple days working together to ensure it doesn't break anything else in the extremely complex system games have become... suddenly starts feeling a lot less worthwhile for something 95% of players will never experience --- THIS IS WHAT I HATE A BOUT EVREY WEBSITE!! THERES SO MUCH PEOPLE READING AND POSTING STUIPED STUFF <cite>kirbymuncher posted [p:970857686] in Modern gam... [t:80311438]...</cite> <quote>Akagami_Shanks posted... </cite><quote>i feel like in general devs have moved away from cool easter eggs and stuff in favor of pumping out the latest derivative drivel that their publisher is forcing them to do.</quote>I'd attribute this to how much more effort any given thing in a game takes to make nowadays. A silly joke mode/sprite change that takes someone a day to make is one thing, but a silly joke model change that takes artists and programmers and designers multiple days working together to ensure it doesn't break anything else in the extremely complex system games have become... suddenly starts feeling a lot less worthwhile for something 95% of players will never experience</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1337toothbrush 01/15/23 10:02:58 AM #44:	A big part of the problem is that memory prices are fixed by a cartel. They also need to justify selling HDDs, so they keep SSDs in their own category by leaving the price high. Really, HDDs should be completely obsoleted by now. SSDs are cheaper to manufacture in raw terms, they don't have complicated mechanical components, and it should be simpler to add more space. Unfortunately it looks like HDDs are going to stick around as companies are still investing in new techniques for squeezing more space into them like HAMR/MAMR and it wasn't even that long ago when HDDs with SMR tech entered the market. [LFAQs-redacted-quote] It's a lot easier to hand-tweak such small games with tender love and care, but to do the same with the massive epics of today would take forever. If you're counting bytes or even megabytes now then you're setting yourself up for a lot of wasted dev cycles. --- https://imgur.com/a/FU9H8 - https://i.imgur.com/ZkQRDsR.png - https://i.imgur.com/2x2gtgP.jpg <cite>1337toothbrush posted [p:970857788] in Modern gam... [t:80311438]...</cite> <quote>A big part of the problem is that memory prices are fixed by a cartel. They also need to justify selling HDDs, so they keep SSDs in their own category by leaving the price high. Really, HDDs should be completely obsoleted by now. SSDs are cheaper to manufacture in raw terms, they don't have complicated mechanical components, and it should be simpler to add more space. Unfortunately it looks like HDDs are going to stick around as companies are still investing in new techniques for squeezing more space into them like HAMR/MAMR and it wasn't even that long ago when HDDs with SMR tech entered the market.<cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> It's a lot easier to hand-tweak such small games with tender love and care, but to do the same with the massive epics of today would take forever. If you're counting bytes or even megabytes now then you're setting yourself up for a lot of wasted dev cycles. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar_the_1 01/15/23 10:12:33 AM #45:	1337toothbrush posted... Really, HDDs should be completely obsoleted by now. They absolutely should not, not yet. When a HDD crashes, chances of recovery are very high. Until SSD drives have similar recovery rates, there's a very good argument for using HDDs for secure storage. --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent <cite>scar_the_1 posted [p:970857903] in Modern gam... [t:80311438]...</cite> <quote>1337toothbrush posted... </cite><quote>Really, HDDs should be completely obsoleted by now.</quote>They absolutely should not, not yet. When a HDD crashes, chances of recovery are very high. Until SSD drives have similar recovery rates, there's a very good argument for using HDDs for secure storage.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar_the_1 01/15/23 10:15:35 AM #46:	1337toothbrush posted... It's a lot easier to hand-tweak such small games with tender love and care, but to do the same with the massive epics of today would take forever. If you're counting bytes or even megabytes now then you're setting yourself up for a lot of wasted dev cycles. This is definitely part of it, but another part is just the insane pace that publishers demand. There's just no budget, either timewise or moneywise, to do meaningful optimizations. Heck, we see it regularly these days where games on release are a total mess. If they don't have time to even release a product that isn't broken, optimization is way down on the list of priorities. --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent <cite>scar_the_1 posted [p:970857946] in Modern gam... [t:80311438]...</cite> <quote>1337toothbrush posted... </cite><quote>It's a lot easier to hand-tweak such small games with tender love and care, but to do the same with the massive epics of today would take forever. If you're counting bytes or even megabytes now then you're setting yourself up for a lot of wasted dev cycles.</quote>This is definitely part of it, but another part is just the insane pace that publishers demand. There's just no budget, either timewise or moneywise, to do meaningful optimizations. Heck, we see it regularly these days where games on release are a total mess. If they don't have time to even release a product that isn't broken, optimization is way down on the list of priorities.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivynn 01/15/23 10:19:08 AM #47:	Zikten posted... my current laptop actually has half the space my old laptop did. All because the old one had a HDD, amd now I have a SSD. And apparently SSD storage is more expensive so laptop makers cut down on what they give you. I nevervran out of space on my old laptop. But my new one has this problem This is exactly me. My laptop's HDD crapped out on me and I had to install a SSD. Yeah, I'm caught up and now it's much faster but it's not nearly enough space. --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif <cite>Ivynn posted [p:970857997] in Modern gam... [t:80311438]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite><quote>my current laptop actually has half the space my old laptop did. All because the old one had a HDD, amd now I have a SSD. And apparently SSD storage is more expensive so laptop makers cut down on what they give you. I nevervran out of space on my old laptop. But my new one has this problem</quote>This is exactly me. My laptop's HDD crapped out on me and I had to install a SSD. Yeah, I'm caught up and now it's much faster but it's not nearly enough space. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1337toothbrush 01/15/23 11:06:17 AM #48:	scar_the_1 posted... They absolutely should not, not yet. When a HDD crashes, chances of recovery are very high. Until SSD drives have similar recovery rates, there's a very good argument for using HDDs for secure storage. Secure systems should be using redundancy anyway. --- https://imgur.com/a/FU9H8 - https://i.imgur.com/ZkQRDsR.png - https://i.imgur.com/2x2gtgP.jpg <cite>1337toothbrush posted [p:970858710] in Modern gam... [t:80311438]...</cite> <quote>scar_the_1 posted... </cite><quote>They absolutely should not, not yet. When a HDD crashes, chances of recovery are very high. Until SSD drives have similar recovery rates, there's a very good argument for using HDDs for secure storage.</quote>Secure systems should be using redundancy anyway. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Breaker 01/15/23 11:10:16 AM #49:	I just use an external HDD. Move a game to the internal when I want to play it and move it back when I'm done. --- So says Mr. Stewart. <cite>Breaker posted [p:970858755] in Modern gam... [t:80311438]...</cite> <quote>I just use an external HDD. Move a game to the internal when I want to play it and move it back when I'm done.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar_the_1 01/15/23 12:37:29 PM #50:	1337toothbrush posted... Secure systems should be using redundancy anyway. Yeah! But as a regular Joe Schmoe it sucks to have my data gone from some storage because the technology to rescue data from SSDs just isn't there. --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent <cite>scar_the_1 posted [p:970860210] in Modern gam... [t:80311438]...</cite> <quote>1337toothbrush posted... </cite><quote>Secure systems should be using redundancy anyway.</quote>Yeah! But as a regular Joe Schmoe it sucks to have my data gone from some storage because the technology to rescue data from SSDs just isn't there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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