Current Events > People who do exercises in front of the dumbbell rack top tier selfish people

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Like too bad anyone wanting to use dumbbells. I need to shrug and do other shoulder exercises that I can do anywhere in the gym. I only think about myself.

If Im shrugging 100+ lbs dumbbells for high reps, Im not moving far away from the dumbbell rack during the set.

Reach around them to give them the hint. No one likes an unsolicited reach around

shrugs is just a goddamn waste of time and most who do them probably follow a tiktok routine(though a clear exception are the builders who want to squeeze out the last ounce of gains).

never once have i done shrugs yet still have well-defined traps just from deadlift, pull ups and facepulls... all exercises that actually give you some worthwhile mileage for your time spent in the gym.

Scarecrow17 posted...

If Im shrugging 100+ lbs dumbbells for high reps, Im not moving far away from the dumbbell rack during the set.

God forbid you have to lift weights and move at the gym lol

AsucaHayashi posted...

shrugs is just a goddamn waste of time and most who do them probably follow a tiktok routine(though a clear exception are the builders who want to squeeze out the last ounce of gains).

never once have i done shrugs yet still have well-defined traps just from deadlift, pull ups and facepulls... all exercises that actually give you some worthwhile mileage for your time spent in the gym.

You have no idea what youre talking about but you do you

Scarecrow17 posted...

You have no idea what youre talking about but you do you

fan of tiktok routines?

CruelBuffalo posted...

God forbid you have to lift weights and move at the gym lol

Or you can wait. Im not doing Farmers Walks with 100 lbs dumbbells because thats not the exercise I want to do at that moment. God forbid you have a little bit of patience. I always step away from the rack when I finish a set in case someone wants to grab a dumbbell and its never been a problem in all my years of lifting.

I bet theyre the same ones wearing "hardest worker in the room" shirts.

AsucaHayashi posted...

fan of tiktok routines?

Post your body, clown. Ive been exercising before TikTok was even a thing but sound off.

Scarecrow17 posted...

Post your body, clown. Ive been exercising before TikTok was even a thing but sound off.

Oh heeeey lets turn this into a post body topic

Scarecrow17 posted...

Or you can wait. Im not doing Farmers Walks with 100 lbs dumbbells because thats not the exercise I want to do at that moment. God forbid you have a little bit of patience. I always step away from the rack when I finish a set in case someone wants to grab a dumbbell and its never been a problem in all my years of lifting.

Well not just me. Everyone at the gym.

Why should I re-rack weights? Its not part of my exercise?
Why should I put weights back in their designated spot? Its not part of my exercise?
Why should I wipe off the bench? I already finished using it.

Scarecrow17 posted...

Post your body, clown.

lol

Ive been exercising before TikTok was even a thing but sound off.

if this were true then you would know shrugs were a waste of time ages ago.

CruelBuffalo posted...

Like too bad anyone wanting to use dumbbells. I need to shrug and do other shoulder exercises that I can do anywhere in the gym. I only think about myself.

Umm, it's really not that big of a deal. Depends how you do it and for how long. The curl racks at my gym are usually very long and there's double weights for every weight. I do it all the time for curls and rows for convenience sake..but I'm quick with my sets and put it back in the rack until the next set (rest for 2 minutes ). If someone wants to use the same weight, I'm okay with it. I do look at others when they are trying to get weights and move out of the way if I'm doing curls.

I think it's a bit different if you are near a rack of 20lb-100lb non Olympic bars and you take up the entire space.

CruelBuffalo posted...

Why should I re-rack weights?

Re-racking the weights is the putting your shopping cart in the corral of lifting.

CruelBuffalo posted...

Oh heeeey lets turn this into a post body topic

Well not just me. Everyone at the gym.

Why should I re-rack weights? Its not part of my exercise?
Why should I put weights back in their designated spot? Its not part of my exercise?
Why should I wipe off the bench? I already finished using it.

None of these arguments make any sense. Just about every gym asks you to re-rack weights, put the weights back in their designated spots, and wipe the equipment before and after use. Youll literally get banned from some gyms if you dont do these things. Its not a bad thing to stand in front of the dumbbell rack to do shrugs for 30 seconds especially when those dumbbells are heavy and dropping them could injure me. Its a safety concern.

If someone is in your way at the gym, then you kindly ask them to step aside and they will. Not every gym goer is a muscle headed freak who is going to bite your head off. Contrary to popular belief, a majority of people who go to the gym are super friendly.

AsucaHayashi posted...

lol

if this were true then you would know shrugs were a waste of time ages ago.

Ah, so you wont post bod nor do you have a counter argument beside lol shrugs are a waste of time just trust me bro. Try not to quit the gym before January ends.

CruelBuffalo posted...

Oh heeeey lets turn this into a post body topic

Well not just me. Everyone at the gym.

Why should I re-rack weights? Its not part of my exercise?
Why should I put weights back in their designated spot? Its not part of my exercise?
Why should I wipe off the bench? I already finished using it.

Are you talking about re-racking in general after you are done with an exercise? Cause that's absolute shit if you don't. You are the worst offender at the gym. I see dumbbells in the ground all the fucking time everywhere or added weights still on bars. Not only is it hassle to take out, but it's also a safety concern. It's basic human decency to clean up after yourself when you are done.

Scarecrow17 posted...

nor do you have a counter argument

it's funny because the only counter argument you've literally provided to my claim is the equivalent of a "no u".

here's my counter to match yours: you have no idea what you're talking about.

Arcanine2009 posted...

Are you talking about re-racking in general after you are done with an exercise? Cause that's absolute shit if you don't. You are the worst offender at the gym. I see dumbbells in the ground all the fucking time everywhere or added weights still on bars. Not only is it hassle to take out, but it's also a safety concern. It's basic human decency to clean up after yourself when you are done.

I was trying to prove a point by saying why care about others I only care about me. Lol I correctly put weights away or wipe down my especially when sweaty

AsucaHayashi posted...

it's funny because the only counter argument you've literally provided to my claim is the equivalent of a "no u".

here's my counter to match yours: you have no idea what you're talking about.

I dont have to provide the first counter argument. I challenged your information by calling you out. Therefore, its up to you to defend your stance. Your response wasnt a solid defense. If youre going to say something, then be prepared to defend it when someone attacks.

If you had responded with I think shoulder shrugs are useless because of x reasoning then perhaps I would have actually engaged with you in a conversation but you decided to show your ass instead.

Scarecrow17 posted...

then be prepared to defend it when someone attacks.

here's my defense: you have no idea what you're talking about but you do you.

Scarecrow17 posted...

If you had responded with I think shoulder shrugs are useless because of x reasoning then perhaps I would have actually engaged with you in a conversation but you decided to show your ass instead.

apparently you also lack reading comprehension.

Can yall not fight and post pics . Preferably shirtless? Gracias

Scarecrow17 posted...

Or you can wait. Im not doing Farmers Walks with 100 lbs dumbbells because thats not the exercise I want to do at that moment. God forbid you have a little bit of patience. I always step away from the rack when I finish a set in case someone wants to grab a dumbbell and its never been a problem in all my years of lifting.

Scarecrow17 posted...

Post your body, clown. Ive been exercising before TikTok was even a thing but sound off.

Scarecrow17 posted...

Ah, so you wont post bod nor do you have a counter argument beside lol shrugs are a waste of time just trust me bro. Try not to quit the gym before January ends.

So basically you read this topic and said "you know what, I'm gonna prove the TC right"

AsucaHayashi posted...

here's my defense: you have no idea what you're talking about but you do you.

apparently you also lack reading comprehension.

also, imagine thinking i'm the ass when the first thing you do is to tell somebody they don't know shit.

Because you don't know what you're talking about. It's not even a matter of opinion. It's straight up facts.

One of the best and easiest exercises to perform at home is the shoulder shrug. It improves the strength of the trapezius muscle, which physiotherapists recommend for people with shoulder and neck pain. It is particularly beneficial to those with desk jobs that encourage bad posture with shoulders slumped, neck pitched forward, and eyes on a computer for extended periods.

https://www.webmd.com/fitness-exercise/how-to-do-shoulder-shrugs

The dumbbell shrug is among one of the most popular ways to isolate this trapezius muscle, making it a relatively common exercise to perform both in the gym and in a physical rehabilitation facility under supervision of a professional.

Primarily utilized at the end of a workout in order to maximize training stimuli in the targeted muscles, the dumbbell shrug is relatively easy to perform and only requires a single dumbbell or pair of evenly weighted dumbbells.

https://www.inspireusafoundation.org/dumbbell-shrug/

It is an incredibly dumb thing to say that shoulder shrugs are useless. Not only do dozens of websites prove you wrong. This basic information is covered in exercise physiology courses that I've taken since I study these kinds of topics for my major. I can go into far more detail but you're not going to engage with me on this. I've seen your other posts about fitness on CE. You've given out false and harmful information constantly. Apparently, I'm the ass yet you come into this topic telling others that an exercise they like to do is useless and something they found off of some TikTok video which is insulting. All I've done is return the same energy you've exhibited in your first post.

TMOG posted...

So basically you read this topic and said "you know what, I'm gonna prove the TC right"

I haven't proved him right at all. Doing a 30 second set at the dumbbell rack and then stepping away to rest is and never will be a problem. If someone is in your way at the gym, you ask them nicely to move. Furthermore, it's common practice to ask someone to post what they look like if they're going to give fitness advice online. There's a reason a lot of people say "Post body or shut up".

CruelBuffalo posted...

Can yall not fight and post pics . Preferably shirtless? Gracias

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Here

dam

Damn youre yoked

Goddamn is it hot in here all of a sudden?

jfc how in the fuck u look like that

also, doin shrugs at the rack is fine. get over yourself.

Scarecrow17 posted...

based on your pics you are definitely well-built.

however, no amount of mirror selfies will ever make up for your own apparent insecurity that makes you feel the need to call out others and compare bodies as if a better looking body is somehow proof that your fitness advice is the one to follow.

first we don't know how much time you spend in the gym, you might have too much free time and spend 3 hours and 6 days at the gym with all the time in the world to work on accessory lifts to maximize gains.
on top of that you probably have more time to rigorously work and keeping track of your diet. worst of all you might not even be natty.

all of the above really says nothing about your fitness advice being the one to follow.

Because you don't know what you're talking about. It's not even a matter of opinion. It's straight up facts.

nope but at least you tried to provide an argument this time which i can argue against.

One of the best and easiest exercises to perform at home is the shoulder shrug. It improves the strength of the trapezius muscle, which physiotherapists recommend for people with shoulder and neck pain. It is particularly beneficial to those with desk jobs that encourage bad posture with shoulders slumped, neck pitched forward, and eyes on a computer for extended periods.

first off we're not at home... we're in the gym. most likely with limited days and with limited time which accounts for like 95-99% of all gym goers.

Primarily utilized at the end of a workout in order to maximize training stimuli in the targeted muscles, the dumbbell shrug is relatively easy to perform and only requires a single dumbbell or pair of evenly weighted dumbbells.

this statement even confirms my own that i wrote above:
(though a clear exception are the builders who want to squeeze out the last ounce of gains).

It is an incredibly dumb thing to say that shoulder shrugs are useless. Not only do dozens of websites prove you wrong. This basic information is covered in exercise physiology courses that I've taken since I study these kinds of topics for my major.

i criticized your reading comprehension above and you still have yet to get it. no exercise that builds muscle without causing injury would ever be considered useless.

what you failed to understand and what has been my point the whole time is they were a waste of time in the gym for most people and the articles you posted really do nothing to disprove this.

here are ones that confirm my point:
https://www.cillianoconnor.net/single-post/2020/04/24/shrugs-exercises-you-probably-dont-need

Why You Don't Need Them

Don't get me wrong: I'm all for trap growth, the shrug just isn't a good choice for most people. The vast majority of people I've seen performing this exercise are beginners.

As I've covered dozens of times now, beginners will do best to take advantage of their propensity for rapid gains by prioritising large multi-joint exercises.

To put it in lay terms: getting your deadlift up to 200kg is going to do far more for your traps than spending valuable training time doing shrugs.
Anecdotally, I've been told I have big traps, and I've never done a set of shrugs in my life. And my traps weren't big before starting deadlifts.

Are They Useless?
Definitely not. If you're an advanced lifter, training the traps directly may be necessary if you want to get those last few percent of trap growth. Remember: I said advanced. That means it doesn't apply to me or probably anyone reading this.

i can guarantee you the vast majority of people you see doing shrugs in the gym are tik tokkers not even doing them at the end of the workout as your very own article recommends but smack dab in the middle of them, literally wasting time when they should be doing any of the exercises i mentioned instead.

other articles:
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/stop-doing-shrugs-train-traps-193600632.html

Why You Should Stop Doing Shrugs
First, heres why you should stop doing shrugs.
The Shrug Hurts Your Posture
Most people often find themselves in a bad position all day, with squeezed and hunched over shoulders and tech neck. Instead, you should be aiming to squeeze and drop our shoulderscalled scapular depression. The continuous upward driving and squeezing motion of the shrug is the opposite. Not only can that lead to shoulder issues, it also adds a lot of unnecessary tension in your neck. The minimal gains are just not worth the risks.

The Shrug Allows You to Slip Into Dangerous Positions
Shrugging heavy weights usually forces us into an uncomfortable forward (or anterior) position. Your focus should instead be retracting your shoulder blades in order to elevate the shoulders. Spinal flexion becomes more of a concern than it should be as we may not be able to stabilize the spine correctly.

You Target Your Traps Enough Already
Not only are shrugs overrated, it become trap overkill when youre already working the muscle each time you do sets of military presses, lateral raises, and especially deadlifts. Thats more than enough heavy work your traps are receiving. Its time to skip the shrug.

https://www.healthguidance.org/entry/17637/1/stop-doing-these-things-that-waste-time-in-the-gym.html

Shrugs: Okay so shrugs arent a complete waste of time. But actually you dont really need to spend any time doing them.

post limit.

to conclude the post, you claim my fitness advice is harmful but based on your mirror selfie/calling out to compare bodies and your idiotic insistence on crowding the dumbbell rack(thinking the only other alternative is a lengthy farmer's walk) you definitely seem narcissistic enough to think that beginners/intermediate should spend valuable time doing shrugs when they're the ones most likely to fall off the fitness wagon due to severe lack of overall noticeable body gains for their time spent in the gym, which is far more harmful.

If their hands are tied up with the dumbbells then their groin is unguarded, make it count.

It is inconsiderate.
Ask them to step aside for a minute so you can grab your dumbells. Maybe if people did that enough they would get the hint from constantly being interrupted and stop doing it

Maybe open your beta mouth and ask them to move

sorry a little off-topic, but what about people in grocery stores who block the aisle and are just completely oblivious to the fact that someone might want to get by them?

Anony1125 posted...

sorry a little off-topic, but what about people in grocery stores who block the aisle and are just completely oblivious to the fact that someone might want to get by them?

And then stare daggers at you when you move their cart out of the way for them

Scarecrow has shared his fitness journey over the years. He's progressed at a very reasonable pace. I'd very much doubt he's using peds if that's the rate he's growing. Dude has posted years of selfies to show how long it took and what areas he's concentrated on.

Anony1125 posted...

sorry a little off-topic, but what about people in grocery stores who block the aisle and are just completely oblivious to the fact that someone might want to get by them?

DipDipDiver posted...

And then stare daggers at you when you move their cart out of the way for them

Mensis posted...

Maybe open your beta mouth and ask them to move

jfc guys

Why should I have to do that, they're the ones who suck

DipDipDiver posted...

Why should I have to do that, they're the ones who suck

They may not be paying attention but you're the one intentionally being rude by pushing their cart out of the way.

Did everyone here miss the day in kindergarten when they taught "excuse me"?

you know what really bugs the heck out of me when i go to the gym at the rec center?

its when other people there especially the younger folk college students even high schoolers that come around the rec center during the late afternoon. they never bother putting the weights away where they just leave the 45 pounders to 80 pound weights on the arm pulling machines.

i swear i get more of a sweaty work out trying to remove the damn weights than i try to get my regular exercise at the rec center.

People need to learn to put their crap away. Not everyone can lift up to 310 pounds. we aint all like Superman or Incredible Hulk for cripes sake

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/9/2/AAW5a5AAEDi0.jpg

A_Good_Boy posted...

They may not be paying attention but you're the one intentionally being rude by pushing their cart out of the way.

I don't actually care that much

AsucaHayashi posted...

bleep

I'm guessing you can't tell if someone is on PEDS, SARMS, etc. because if you could, then you would have never made that comment in the first place. I actually have a progress pic from 2018 up until now showing the slow and steady progression over the years. I've posted and shared this picture on CE not to pump myself up but to show the rest of the guys and girls here that if I can turn my life around and get in shape, then many of them can too. Every fitness topic I made was nothing but positivity from all sides. It's not about insecurity or comparing bodies. If you were well-built, I'd actually compliment you and if you were better built compared to myself then that'd be awesome. It's about proving you know what you're talking about. Anyone can go online and claim to lift weights. Nobody in this topic knows if you're telling the truth. You could be larping for all we know and that's not a stretch considering the lengths some users here have went to play pretend. Asking someone to "Post bod" is not something I came up with. It's a common thing to ask in online fitness communities. I'm a full time college student working two jobs in addition to volunteering. I only go to the gym three days a week. No, I do not have all of the free time in the world. For you to try and come up with reasons why I look the way I do says a lot about your character.

Are there other exercises that target your traps? Absolutely. I don't think I ever argued against that but what you fail to comprehend is that not everyone can do a pull-up. Face pulls and deadlifts aren't always going to be available especially in my gym where deadlifting is very popular and you have to wait extremely long times just for a spot to open up. I can post a dozen more articles proving my point but you're just going to post a dozen more in counter so what's really the point of this. I understood what you said before which is why I didn't bother to address it in my response.

The problem is you've only thought of yourself in your initial post. "I can get good traps from these exercises. Therefore, shrugs are useless!". That's not how it works. My gym, for example, sees plenty of people with disabilities who can't do pull-ups, deadlift, or face pulls. You say I'm narcissistic yet you never bothered to think about the limitations of others. Hence, why I called you a clown multiple posts ago. Most beginners can't do pull-ups or can't deadlift with proper form. I don't even recommend to deadlift until they've built a solid strength foundation since it's very easy to injure yourself permanently on a deadlift but that's for another topic.

If you do lift weights, then you're the worst kind of lifter. You should not be telling others that an exercise they like to perform is useless unless they specifically ask you for your opinion on said exercise. Furthermore, instead of leaving it at that, you decided to go on to say that anyone who does this exercise follows some TikTok routine, Why do you even care? I don't use TikTok but if someone wants to follow some routine from there, then more power to them. I'm not going to shit on them for trying to improve themselves which is ultimately what you did intentionally or not.

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It's usually much faster for me to do dumbbell shrugs since it takes time to load up the barbell and then deload it when I'm finished. If I'm good on time, then yeah I'll use the barbell or trap bar assuming they're available for use.

Scarecrow17 posted...

It's usually much faster for me to do dumbbell shrugs since it takes time to load up the barbell and then deload it when I'm finished. If I'm good on time, then yeah I'll use the barbell or trap bar assuming they're available for use.

DB is also better for range of motion and to specifically hit your traps. Barbell incorporates more back muscles

Scarecrow17 posted...

bleep
"I can get good traps from these exercises. Therefore, shrugs are useless!".

if you're gonna keep misrepresenting my posts then we're done here. keep up with your insecurities and keep asking strangers to post their bods as a substitute to making you feel better about yours.

Despite the animosity, I actually learned a bit from both Asuca and Scarecrow.

I appreciate it when posters do elaborate their points. Because honestly, its more about helping bystanders than convincing the other person.

Dumbbell rows at a higher weight are far easier to do right there at the rack