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deathproof12 12/30/22 1:30:57 PM #1: |
Basically unkillable. Magic, melee and ranged all do nothing. Damage is a lil low but who cares if the damage isn't the best when you are indestructible, can outlast everything while doing enough damage. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lilORANG 12/30/22 1:40:15 PM #2: |
Yeah. I remember those days. One of the final spells in that line like makes you partially incorporeal so physical attacks just pass through you lol. --- #FeelTheBern http://i.imgur.com/q5z4CUu.jpg http://i.imgur.com/6B9oFXh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/sy42Dlf.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 12/30/22 1:42:05 PM #3: |
Whats cute is that Mages are OP in the lore so it's fitting XD --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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apocalyptic_4 12/30/22 1:44:21 PM #4: |
Yea mage builds are fun and broken in the dragon age series I can't play another role without immediately switching to a mage. On my last origins mage build I was able to completely de buff the final boss and deal enough damage to kill him within a minute almost. --- XBL: Mrpicardbottoms PSN: Bosh369 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ANort175 12/30/22 1:52:33 PM #5: |
Mage in general is just gross in that game, unless you put friendly fire on, since that really limits how much you can spam those huge AoE spells once you've already started a fight. Still doesn't stop you from Inferno'ing a group from the other side of a closed door though, always loved doing that. --- Are we the baddies? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Irony 12/30/22 1:53:29 PM #6: |
Arcane Warrior is the weakest mage build --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Biofighter55 12/30/22 1:53:41 PM #7: |
Combine it with blood mage and it gets fun lol --- This is my sig. Don't like it, then don't look at it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnholyMudcrab 12/30/22 2:11:56 PM #8: |
Now slap blood mage on it. Hell, Blood Wound alone makes blood mage the most OP thing in the game --- http://i.imgur.com/VeNBg.gif http://i.imgur.com/gd5jC8q.gif http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif http://i.imgur.com/3p29JqP.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wackyteen 12/30/22 2:13:58 PM #9: |
If you want sheer damage, Archer in Awakening basically has guaranteed crits (with the right Bow, and I think you can buy it) and one or two shots everything. Combine that with Scattershot and they're dead before they can do much --- The name is wackyteen for a reason. Never doubt. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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whetstone314 12/30/22 2:19:25 PM #10: |
I fooled around with different rogue builds on my one playthrough where I did everything. I remember on the final DLC i decided to respecc into just enough strength to wear the sentinel armor on my rogue, and dumped everything else into dex, I didn't really care if damage potential was higher with stre or cunning. I tell you what, I don't think my rogue got hit my a melee or ranged attack for the entire dlc. It was like I had reached some breaking point where my defense was so high that I became ultra instinct. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 12/30/22 3:10:30 PM #11: |
Biofighter55 posted... Combine it with blood mage and it gets fun lolYou know what pisses me off so much SPOILERS AHEAD FOR THE WHOLE SERIES! --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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garan 12/30/22 3:13:04 PM #12: |
wackyteen posted... If you want sheer damage, Archer in Awakening basically has guaranteed crits (with the right Bow, and I think you can buy it) and one or two shots everything. Combine that with Scattershot and they're dead before they can do much Sure, but that's only in the expansion-- archers aren't that good in the base game. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wackyteen 12/30/22 3:15:23 PM #13: |
garan posted... Sure, but that's only in the expansion-- archers aren't that good in the base game.Archers do what they're supposed to do, crowd control. And if you don't want to use Leliana or Zev, the Warden has to pick up the slack. --- The name is wackyteen for a reason. Never doubt. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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garan 12/30/22 3:22:29 PM #14: |
wackyteen posted... Archers do what they're supposed to do, crowd control. A) Mages do better crowd control. And since when are archers about crowd control anyway? B) Double dagger cunning build rogue for the Warden is the way to go in Origins. So much DPS. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Irony 12/30/22 3:25:30 PM #15: |
The best party you can have is 3 mages and a tank. --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wackyteen 12/30/22 3:25:42 PM #16: |
garan posted...
Since Scattershot, Pinning Shot, Crippling Shot, the shot that can knock down enemies. --- The name is wackyteen for a reason. Never doubt. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Biofighter55 12/30/22 3:32:20 PM #17: |
UnfairRepresent posted... You know what pisses me off so much holy shit that never occurred to me until now!! youre right, its basically blood magic than again lore wise, lyrium basically augments their powers, but yes I see your point I wonder if thats why its easier to do spells with your own blood --- This is my sig. Don't like it, then don't look at it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrizztLink 12/30/22 3:32:36 PM #18: |
garan posted... B) Double dagger cunning build rogue for the Warden is the way to go in Origins. So much DPS.My first time playing through the whole series was an unbroken string of dagger Assassins. It ain't flashy but it's great. At least it isn't flashy until you get the "backstab Fireball" in Awakening. --- http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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garan 12/30/22 3:32:40 PM #19: |
wackyteen posted... Since Scattershot, Pinning Shot, Crippling Shot, the shot that can knock down enemies. Yes, I'm aware they have some crowd control powers in the game-- but archers are typically about ranged DPS, which they fail at in DAO. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 12/30/22 3:40:44 PM #20: |
Biofighter55 posted...
--- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Irony 12/30/22 3:41:40 PM #21: |
The thing about archer crowd control is that it's massively inferior to blood magic crowd control --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Biofighter55 12/30/22 3:43:10 PM #22: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
still I wonder if BioWare will realized that --- This is my sig. Don't like it, then don't look at it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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garan 12/30/22 3:43:40 PM #23: |
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Biofighter55 12/30/22 3:44:46 PM #24: |
garan posted...
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UnfairRepresent 12/30/22 3:53:42 PM #25: |
garan posted...
Sort of like if in Harry Potter they have the 3 "forbidden curses" and Hogwarts called them "Blood Magic." Actually any fucker can do it, it's just frowned upon. Also not sure if it's "canon" or not but you can flat out buy a blood magic manual in a pub in Awakening. Basically blood for mages it's like Kaioken in DBZ. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DoesntMatter 12/30/22 3:57:26 PM #26: |
good. now combine it with Blood Mage and be double OP. then play Awakening and combine those with Battlemage and be TRIPLE OP. --- It don't matter. None of this matters. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ParanoidObsessive 12/30/22 4:27:10 PM #27: |
UnfairRepresent posted... Whats cute is that Mages are OP in the lore so it's fitting XD Even more so when you realize you are effectively wielding magical arts lost to time, learned from the ghost of a long dead ancient elf, from an era when magic was supreme in the world. It should be badass - you're canonically the only person in the world who can do it (unless you teach it to your allies), and you had to do some crazy stuff to learn it. You are the snowiest of OC Donut Steel snowflakes. At least until Inquisition went and ruined it by making it (sort of) one of the Mage specializations (Knight-Enchanter is basically supposed to be a modern version of the Arcane Warrior). UnfairRepresent posted... It's the same thing! The entire cycle is blood mages! The Stigma against it is bullshit. To be fair, the stigma against it is mostly rooted in the idea that blood mages tend to be more vulnerable to demonic influence and possession, so blood mages have a radically higher chance of turning into Abominations, which pretty much everyone has a vested interest in preventing. But if anything DA2 kind of presents the idea (in multiple ways at multiple times) that it's entirely possible that blood mages are only more inclined to turn demonic because they're hunted for being blood mages, thus turning the whole thing into a Catch-22 loop. ie, if you didn't oppress them, they wouldn't be as much of a threat in the first place. They turn to demons because they're hunted. The other reason for the stigma is because blood mages who get into the habit of sacrificing tend to lose any sanctity of life, even if just through simple desensitization (ie, Tevinter mages who sacrifice slaves on the regular, mages like Avernus starting out justifying his sacrifices as "necessary"). Which in turn simultaneously makes blood mages MORE likely to sacrifice people, and powerful enough so that no one else can stop them from doing so. So people who don't want to get blood sacrificed are going to have a really strong bias against it right from the start. Keep in mind, though - Dragon Age is a deeply cynical and flawed setting based on the popularity of "A Song of Ice and Fire". The entire point is that pretty much everyone is wrong about everything nearly all of the time, and the great tragedy is that most of the suffering in the world stems from that fact. And yeah, Thedas is built on hypocrisy. Hence why the Grey Wardens are literally created via blood magic, but everyone is mostly cool with it because it's preferable to dying to a Blight. UnfairRepresent posted...
Actually, that can get really interesting if you think about it. UnfairRepresent posted... Also not sure if it's "canon" or not but you can flat out buy a blood magic manual in a pub in Awakening. That's mostly a game mechanic to help keep specializations available to players who didn't unlock them in the main game. Same reason why you can buy a ton of rare or unique artifacts in random shops in town. It's mostly just to keep them available to the player even if you didn't manage to pick them up in the main game. It's worth noting that, in the main game, the only way to learn blood magic is to essentially sacrifice the soul of an innocent boy to a demon to teach it to you (or to metagame and save-scum so you can get the power without the sacrifice). So that actually justifies the lore. Meanwhile, the other blood-related unlock (Reaver) also requires some heinous actions to acquire. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ivynn 12/30/22 4:29:55 PM #28: |
Most broken and fun class. Glad they never nerfed it like Knight Enchanter in DAI. --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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whetstone314 12/30/22 4:50:16 PM #29: |
garan posted... B) Double dagger cunning build rogue for the Warden is the way to go in Origins. So much DPS. I still never understood why people say this. I found that many bosses were immune to the backstab, and I found that any enemies that aren't will turn their attention to the damaging rogue pretty quickly. I don't recall regaining aggro with the warrior being very easy in that game, but I also would say I wasn't always very good at video games back at the time that I played this game. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 12/30/22 4:59:53 PM #30: |
ParanoidObsessive posted... Bruh ParanoidObsessive posted... I'd say it's more LOTR inspired. Dragon Age is pretty clean and traditional despite touching on some dark aspects here and there. ParanoidObsessive posted... Sure I can see that either way But I'd argue that "only demons can teach blood magic, now drink your lyrium" is a an in universe myth and the "blood magic" demons teach you is just non circle spells. For example the Circle can't teach you Morrigan's shapeshifting and I bet they would call it "Blood Magic" if asked. It doesn't make sense to me that --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrizztLink 12/30/22 5:04:27 PM #31: |
whetstone314 posted... any enemies that aren't will turn their attention to the damaging rogue pretty quickly.If they're living long enough to react you're not backstabbing correctly. --- http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ivynn 12/30/22 5:05:50 PM #32: |
Remember that special move you can unlock for Assassin that was basically Flash Step? That was crazy fun. --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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garan 12/30/22 5:11:47 PM #33: |
whetstone314 posted... I still never understood why people say this. I found that many bosses were immune to the backstab, and I found that any enemies that aren't will turn their attention to the damaging rogue pretty quickly. I don't recall regaining aggro with the warrior being very easy in that game, but I also would say I wasn't always very good at video games back at the time that I played this game. Even if something is immune to backstab-- your cunning is so high that you're penetrating all of their armor, meaning you're doing that much more damage. And double daggers attack faster than other weapons, meaning even more DPS. Not to mention the assassin abilities that allow you to to crank DPS up to insane levels. And with cunning, you take Bard to kick on a song with enormous buffs to make your DPS even better. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ParanoidObsessive 12/30/22 5:36:40 PM #34: |
UnfairRepresent posted... I'd say it's more LOTR inspired. Dragon Age is pretty clean and traditional despite touching on some dark aspects here and there. It's not. The devs have literally said ASoIaF was the main influence. It's a very dark and cynical universe. It's why so many of the origins pretty much consist of introducing you to your life and a bunch of people, and then murdering the fuck out of most of them (or worse). It's also why even the "happy" endings tend to not be all that happy. The massive success of ASoIaF (long before the Game of Thrones TV show) led to a HUGE boost in "dark fantasy" imitators and influences, and Dragon Age was absolutely riding that wave (as it was BioWare's attempt to craft an original setting to replace their lost D&D rights, in the same way that Mass Effect basically happened because they wanted their own version of KotOR). If you're seeing LotR influences, it's mostly because those are just standard fantasy tropes at this point. And possibly because ASoIaF was itself influenced by LotR in a lot of ways (as George RR Martin has mentioned multiple times). UnfairRepresent posted... It doesn't make sense to me that They absolutely can. Because they're two different types of blood. It's like the difference between ordinary dragons and Old Gods/Archdemons. Archdemons aren't just powerful dragons. They're a higher order of entity entirely, with unique aspects to their nature. Even if, at face value, they seem like pretty much the same thing, they're not. It's sort of similar to how many vampire stories imply there's a significant difference between human blood and animal blood. Lyrium is the "blood" of ancient, primordial beings. It's not really on the same level with the blood you get from stabbing a peasant farmer or Tevinter slave. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 12/30/22 5:40:51 PM #35: |
ParanoidObsessive posted...
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deathproof12 12/30/22 7:23:41 PM #36: |
Irony posted... Arcane Warrior is the weakest mage buildyeah we all know shapeshifter is the strongest mage build ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Irony 12/30/22 9:19:14 PM #37: |
2nd weakest --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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