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Sad_Face
12/26/22 1:18:43 PM
#51:


JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...
lol


You laugh but we have a massive issue of unwed mothers suffering from men who knock them up and go about their business. The effects of all these guys failing to uphold their responsibility is currently snowballing and causing more and more societal problems than people realize.

It's a guarantee that the government is going to step in and start holding people accountable and it won't be pretty.

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David1988
12/26/22 1:19:03 PM
#52:


Doom_Art posted...
My friend actually has a family friend who specializes in this field so he'll try to meet with them this coming week.

Wait are you supposed to be the friend or the family friend, or are you just a friend of the friend?

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masticatingman
12/26/22 1:26:14 PM
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This is weird logic. Having a kid is a much bigger choice than that or should be. This is why we cant have nice things.

Not knocking her but it seems really utilitarian of Well this works out well on my spreadsheet instead of actually wanting a child.

I say this mostly cause in this situation it was a fluke happenstance and just going O well, lets do this is weird to me.
Its the biological clock logic.

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Doom_Art
12/26/22 2:09:17 PM
#55:


David1988 posted...
Wait are you supposed to be the friend or the family friend, or are you just a friend of the friend?


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Blue_Inigo
12/26/22 7:51:14 PM
#57:


A CEman gets laid but gets her pregnant

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Antifar
12/26/22 7:57:16 PM
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I have that guy tagged as "internet poisoned"

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LinkPizza
12/26/22 8:04:05 PM
#59:


AbdulCarter posted...
Both parents in the childs life, maximizing the kids ability to thrive and grow with peace of mind.

You can do that without marriage Or even living together

AbdulCarter posted...
Why are you having unprotected sex someone you couldnt possibly stand being with?

Feels good Ive only use a condom twice

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KogaSteelfang
12/26/22 8:19:23 PM
#60:


Tell your friend congrats on becoming a father, and that I hope it works out very well as a pleasant co-parenting situation.

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mybbqrules
12/26/22 8:49:09 PM
#62:


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Who was #16?
Well, since I can't see it either and the only people who block me are butthurt MAGA types, I'm guessing a butthurt MAGA type.

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ToadallyAwesome
12/26/22 8:56:28 PM
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Well, since I can't see it either and the only people who block me are butthurt MAGA types, I'm guessing a butthurt MAGA type.

Its some alt called Abdul Carter. They have the worst takes and was an account made this month (Dec 2022). Im leaning towards SMAL but Im not quite sure.

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Revelation34
12/26/22 11:04:13 PM
#64:


Sad_Face posted...


You laugh but we have a massive issue of unwed mothers suffering from men who knock them up and go about their business. The effects of all these guys failing to uphold their responsibility is currently snowballing and causing more and more societal problems than people realize.

It's a guarantee that the government is going to step in and start holding people accountable and it won't be pretty.


Lol.

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emblem-man
12/26/22 11:10:00 PM
#65:


ToadallyAwesome posted...
This is weird logic. Having a kid is a much bigger choice than that or should be. This is why we cant have nice things.

Not knocking her but it seems really utilitarian of Well this works out well on my spreadsheet instead of actually wanting a child.

I say this mostly cause in this situation it was a fluke happenstance and just going O well, lets do this is weird to me.

Not sure why it's weird. She seems to have thought out the stability and sacrifices about having a kid. She feels comfortable financially, and she said she would have wanted a child at some point. This...this is more thought than many put into having a child.

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Doom_Art
12/27/22 12:09:52 AM
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dude shut up no one's getting married lol

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LinkPizza
12/27/22 12:41:07 AM
#69:


AbdulCarter posted...
Thats really the problem.

People whine about having a loveless marriage but they have no complaints about being careless about the needs of their children.

People care more about themselves than they care about making sacrifices to make their childrens life better.

The problem is that a loveless marriage ISNT a good home for the child When they is no love between the parents, the child can feel it. And apparently, no matter how often you tell them its not their fault, they still feel like it is. Its not a home filled with love. Its not actually a good environment. Its not about the whether the adults want to make the sacrifice. Youd be sacrificing having a good life to out a child in a shitty situation

Not being in the same house could open the possibility of having two parents who are still on very friendly terms. And open the possibility of the child having two homes that are both filled with love. Having two love-filled homes is better than having one home thats only filled with resentment I feel that should be obvious

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Doom_Art
12/27/22 12:42:57 AM
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why is this in quotes lol

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Doom_Art
12/27/22 12:44:38 AM
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well this is just not true lol

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Doom_Art
12/27/22 12:46:02 AM
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My kids?

We're talking about a friend of mine here, pal.

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Doom_Art
12/27/22 12:59:19 AM
#76:


There's no relationship between this woman and my friend. They're friends, sure but there's not like a former romantic partnership that they could rekindle or whatever. Nor is there any desire to do so by either party.

So I don't know where you get this "any relationship can survive" thing. Two people were attracted to each other and boinked. There's no romantic interest, no feelings of love or affection.


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LinkPizza
12/27/22 1:02:23 AM
#77:


AbdulCarter posted...
Sounds like you are describing a child with divorced parents.

No child is worried about their parents relationship when they are still together.

I would know.

My parents got divorced with I was 7.

The same does happen in divorce. It doesnt mean it doesnt happen when you try to force to people who dont love each other to be together. That breeds resentment, which could eventually turn to hate. Some people just arent meant to be together. So, they should try to force themselves to be together for no reason Especially since its already a fact that many kids can grow up fine in multi-home families

And many children still worry about their parents relationship while they are still together. For many families with married parents, when the parents argue, some get worried that they might get a divorce With dating parents, it can be worse because they could break up and leave out of no where. There have been many kids that worry about their parents splitting up while they are still together. To think otherwise means you just havent met kids in certain situations

I would also know, so dont try to act like your experience beats mine. Everyone has different experiences. Just because you had one experience doesnt mean the other things havent happened My parents werent together, and I was fine. They are still friends to this day. And help each other and everything. They were already best friends when they were younger. He even comes to family stuff on my moms side to this day. They knew they werent right for each other and didnt force themselves to stay together. My mom tried to stay together with her ex (my siblings parents) for the kids. And it just made things worse. I would know because I had to comfort my siblings. And I know why they werent happy. So, Ive seen both sides of this

AbdulCarter posted...
Your kids are also going to learn from you that its normal to have babies with someone and not have any sort of relationship with them.

Imagine the message of love youre teaching a child with those actions.

Its better than teaching them loveless relationships are fine

AbdulCarter posted...
But going further, of course, kids will always see their parents fight and have arguments. Even perfect marriages have these things.

When I saw my grandparents fight as a kid and yell at each other, it scared the hell out of me, but they are still married to this day, and are an inspiration to me of how a relationship can survive even through hard times

Kids seeing their parents fight is fine. Kids seeing their parents fight all the time is not. They start to think that having arguments all the time is fine. Having some arguments is normal. Fighting all the time isnt good, though

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Doom_Art
12/27/22 1:06:23 AM
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They will be raising the child together, they just won't be married to each other.

I don't know why this is so hard to wrap your head around

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LinkPizza
12/27/22 1:08:50 AM
#80:


AbdulCarter posted...
You (Im using this generally, not literally YOU) liked someone enough to fuck them.

But being together to raise a child that you (again, general pronoun) made TOGETHER is just an impossible request that you couldnt possibly even entertain.

The way people think is wild.

You seem to think liking someone enough to duck means liking them. Which is not true. Tbh, I dont know much about a person I fuck in some cases. They are things call ONSs Some people just think someones hot. And some people dont really know people until they date So, maybe they initially liked them. But then realized a relationship wouldnt work Just like how people break up wishbone they dont have kids. Some people try to force it, and those usually turn out bad You dont see everyone trying to force a shitty relationship that wont work because its not healthy. Adding a kid rarely (if ever) makes that bad relationship any better

Its wild you think the way you do, tbh

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Revelation34
12/27/22 1:11:12 AM
#81:


AbdulCarter posted...


Thats really the problem.

People whine about having a loveless marriage but they have no complaints about being careless about the needs of their children.

People care more about themselves than they care about making sacrifices to make their childrens life better.


Seeing parents argue and fight is definitely healthy for children.

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Heartomaton
12/27/22 1:13:17 AM
#82:


I think this AbdulCarter guy is LL, in which case, someone who has done what he has done shouldn't be telling others that what they're doing is wrong.

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Revelation34
12/27/22 1:16:44 AM
#84:


AbdulCarter posted...


That sounds like a problem


Normality is never a problem.

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Dakimakura
12/27/22 1:21:19 AM
#86:


Tell your friend to use a condom

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LinkPizza
12/27/22 1:21:30 AM
#87:


AbdulCarter posted...
That sounds like a problem

Its really not Something that many people do Not to mention, you cant really know how much you are going to really like a person until you are with them for a while

AbdulCarter posted...
you might wanna think about that statement

Nothing to rethink about. He is correct

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LinkPizza
12/27/22 1:31:37 AM
#89:


AbdulCarter posted...
Many people are alcoholics.

Doesnt mean being drunk 24/7 is no problem.

What does that have to do with what I said? What Im saying it different. Even when people are dating, they dont know everything about someone So, even if you initially liked them, that doesnt mean you always will. Even if you think you know everything about a person, that doesnt mean you really do It changes nothing I said Nor does it make me wrong If you have any actual evidence Im wrong or that its bad, post it

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LinkPizza
12/27/22 2:08:01 AM
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AbdulCarter posted...
Because you said,

Its really not [a problem] Something that many people do

Just because many people are having sex without knowing much about that person, doesnt make it a NOT a problem.

Many people do many bad things.

Being drunk 24/7 isnt a problem in most cases. If youre home and not out doing stuff, who cares if youre drunk? As long as you arent breaking any laws like public intoxication or DWI/DUI, then being drunk 24/7 is also fine The only problems youll have are probably liver problems So, this isnt even a good analogy. If anything, its for my point Just because you dont like that people have sex without knowing much about the person doesnt mean its a problem. Its just something YOU dont like and thats fine. You dont have to like it. Bit its also not a problem

AbdulCarter posted...
Marriage is a sacrifice.

You do this for the benefit of your children.

The issue is that people do not want to put the needs of their children over their own desires.

Having both parents in the same house raising a child gets rid of every problem mentioned ITT (going to court, worrying about who legally has the right to the child on certain holidays, etc.)

You are putting enormous amounts of stress on a child when you could make a sacrifice to make their lives easier.

People are just inherently selfish.

Thats probably part of the problem. Marriage shouldnt be a sacrifice. Marriage should be something both parties in a relationship should want. Thinking of it as a sacrifice already shows you thinking on it is wrong. Many people in lifelong relationships dont want to get married, and thats fine. They shouldnt have to. But if a couple does want to get married, they should both want it. When one person doesnt want to, that can start to breed resentment. Thats something that can make a marriage bad. And that can also make a home a bad home for a child If you want to do whats good for the child, learn when its time to end a relationship. Thats what good for the child. Teach the child they dont have to stay in a toxic relationship Thats whats good for the child You rather the child have a shitty life just so they can teach their child the same thing, and the cycle of shitty lives continues

You assume that by splitting up, they arent putting the lives of the children first but splitting up to stop a household from being toxic is just that. Not every home needs to have both parents together Literal studies have been done on this They seen how children can get better once parents that didnt love each other finally split up Children were better emotionally and mentally

And if the parents are amicable, court shouldnt be an issue. Court also isnt always a problem. In many cases, court can just make certain legal. Like if the parents both made a schedule that works, court just makes the schedule legal is both parents legal teams agree Which means its not a problem. My SO and his exes talk already work together on that It works for some people You mention how staying together fixes problems (which arent even always problems) But you fail to mention the actual problems it causes Like mentally and emotionally damaging for the child, or showing them that bad relationships where you dont love the other person is ok. Or that having a child can force someone to stay with you You do realize that, right?

So, y separating, youre actually taking some stress off the child that would be there if you stayed together. The only selfish one in this topic is you You think people should live their life the way you want it, which can cause stress on a family, and make the child think certain bad things are acceptable just because its fits what you want

AbdulCarter posted...
I just laid out my arguments.

Seems clear to me.

You laid out your points. Theyre just bad and untrue points What is clear is that you have absolutely no idea how the real world works. You think everything should work the way you want it to

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LinkPizza
12/27/22 4:07:43 AM
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AbdulCarter posted...
you just did a good job of explaining why being drunk 24/7 is a huge inconvenience and a major problem if you want to live any kind of functional life.

* Cant drive
* Cant reasonably hold down a job
* Major health issues that could lead to your death

Except those things arent always needed For example, if they dont need to go anywhere, then driving doesnt matter. With the pandemic, many people didnt have to go anywhere Grocery stores deliver these days, or you can use an app to do it. Or have family and friends drive you, or do thing for you

For a job, some people actually can hold it down. If they are a functioning drunk That said, that also depends on if you need a job. Some people dont need to work. Whether they have money, or a good retirement plan. Or get the cheap stuff that doesnt actually cost much Or dont live alone And alcohol isnt the only thing people do that causing health problems. For some people, going to work in more dangerous Health problems can occur, but wont always occur

AbdulCarter posted...
Marriage has always been a sacrifice.

By getting married, your dating life from that point is permanently over.

When you get married, you are planning to never have sex with another stranger again.

Marriage is a sacrifice. Thats just a fact.

Thats the problem right there Marriage SHOILDNT be a sacrifice. Its suppose to be something good for the people that want it. You line of thinking is already fucked up when you called something thats suppose to be the happiest day of some peoples lives a sacrifice While it has been a sacrifice in the past, it still shouldnt be. People should only get married if they want, and they are ready. They shouldnt be forced into a shitty marriage because people with dumb line of thoughts like you think they should. That is already literally a problem And it just makes things worse

AbdulCarter posted...
people dont want a marriage because they dont want to sacrifice their freedom for the benefit of the child.

In other words, they are more worried about themselves and their own desires than making sure the child is happy.

This is also the wrong line of thinking Its not always about sacrificing their free time Nor is there always a child involved. In this case, there is. And in this case, youd still be wrong. The friend said he wants to be in The childs life. Did you even read the first post. He wants to make sure he has rights. So, this isnt about free time or anything Of you going to make stupid and wrong arguments, at least get the facts theyre telling us right

AbdulCarter posted...
The shitty life continues when a child grows up being pulled at each arm like tug-of-war by each half of their family.

Believe me, I lived through this shit as a child and divorced parents.

The drama and stress for that child will be extreme. Especially when people at school ask them about their home life. Nobody wants to tell the class that their parents are separated or divorced.

Thats only IF the child is being pulled at each arm. My parents werent together, but like I mentioned earlier, theyre still close friends. I loved with my mom, but saw my dad all the time. There was never any fighting over time. Even on Christmas, I saw them both. Sometimes, he would come over, or my mom would go over there. Sometimes, I would spend Christmas with one, and do a second Christmas later (like a day or two later) Not every family who is not together fights. And honestly, breaking up can help some people deal with the other one better I know plenty of ex-couples sharing kids who are actually good friends Sometimes, when they are both in new relationships, the families are good friends It depends on the people involved

And you having divorced parents doesnt matter Like I said earlier, my parents werent even together. Even if we wanted to use our knowledge to pick whos right, my life is closer since these two already arent married. That said, neither of our stories will hold weight since every family is different. Just because you turned out bad because of divorce doesnt mean every other kid will. And just because I turned out good even though my parents were together doesnt mean every kid will It literally depends on the people involved, and how they interact with each other What I can say is forcing people to get married or to stay together isnt good most of the time

Also, not everyone cares about telling their friends or classmates. Where I went to school, I knew other kids whose parents werent together. It wasnt a huge secret. Especially when hanging out with people at their house. Some people had two parents, some had one. Some had two families because their parents remarried It just all depends Even within my close groups of friends, we all had different parent situations. Some have divorced parents, some had step families, some had parents who were still married, etc Because it literally didnt matter to us because we understood that every family was different

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12/27/22 4:08:52 AM
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AbdulCarter posted...
if you could share one of those studies Id like to see it.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/going-beyond-intelligence/201905/should-you-stay-together-only-the-kids?amp

Heres on. It says for the short-term, its fine Though, it also says, Children thrive in predictable, secure families with two parents who love them and love each other. See that bolded part In case you forgot, the two parents in this case DONT love each other. So, this short-term yes doesnt even fit our argument And anyway, Im guessing thats for like kids who are like 16 and up It does say short-term But it says for the long term, no And they problem they experience from splitting up are usually resolved in about a year or two Where any problems from a toxic relationship staying together arent resolved until the child is out of the house, or one of the parents are But if they grew up with parents who werent together, these things wont even be a problem, as having two homes has always been the norm

https://www.verywellfamily.com/should-you-stay-together-for-kids-1270800

Heres on that talks about the risks of staying together Including things like kids learning dysfunction parenting skills, chances to lead less successful lives, and even quotes another study that says the kids in homes with high parental conflict are, no better off, and in fact may fare worse in some respects, than children of single parents. They also note that the children have trouble is specific areas like:

- Developing positive self-esteem
- Forming and maintaining relationships
- Managing emotions
- Trusting others

Its mentions that families who stay together can work But only in certain cases. Like if they can remained civil And constant arguments from the resentment of being married to someone you dont love normally doesnt mean civil

https://www.equitablemediation.com/blog/should-we-stay-together-for-the-kids?hs_amp=true

Heres on where multiple people talk about it. The first person says they can stay together IF there is low conflict. But again, forcing a marriage on people who dont want to be married doesnt always make for a marriage with low conflict

The next mentions either is fine if there is no fighting. And both parents being in relationships that are good for them can help.

The next person (a marriage and family therapist) mentions it depends on the health of the family together and apart. He will see which fits better for the family Meaning its not always a single answer like you are trying to say

There are tons more people The final answer seems to be two different things.

1) It really depends on how the family interacts with each other. If the conflict is low, its fine High conflict is bad, though

2) Its different for each family. Each family needs to see if they are good together In this case, they dont seem interested in a relationship with each other. Id take their word over how good they are for each other over yours since, AFAIK, you dont know them And even if you did, they know themselves better. If they thought they would be good together, they would have decided that. But they know more than we do. And probably know they wont be good together

Now, do you have studies that say staying together is the only choice? And stuff thats backs that up?

AbdulCarter posted...
I dont think you realize that real life doesnt play out by a schedule.

Again, my parents got divorced, and even though everything got worked out in court they were always arguments about people not showing up on time to drop off the kids.

Forcing a child to deal with this shit makes them feel like an object rather than a person.

When did I ever say real life played out by a schedule? All I said was court isnt always a bad thing, especially if they have a schedule. Obviously, the schedule wont always work. Sometimes, people take vacations, or surprise trips. But that doesnt mean you cant make a working schedule. It just means changes can be made as they happen

And for your family, It wasnt worked out in court. Worked out would be when the families agree. Especially before court. You parents didnt agree before or after court. So, nothing was actually worked out. And that also tells me something else. Do you really think you would have been better growing up in a house full of hate? Because them staying together wouldnt be you growing up in a house full of love like you keep proposing You do realize that, right?

And the child only feels like an object of the parent make them feel like that. Going between my parents house never made me feel like an object. But they were friendly with each other. It was never a hostile handover. They would sometime talk for an hour when dropping me off, or picking me up. They treated me like a child I mean, I know married couples who treat their children like objects. Or use them against the other person. Marriage doesnt just magically make things better

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12/27/22 4:09:14 AM
#96:


AbdulCarter posted...
By separating, the parents are choosing to be selfish and pick the best life for themselves.

They make the child have a more stressful life

* You laid out your points. Theyre just bad and untrue points What is clear is that you have absolutely no idea how the real world works. You think everything should work the way you want it to

Actually, the problem with people who dont want to get married is that they always want to have things their own way.

Again, marriage is a sacrifice.

When you just want to be single, youre thinking of yourself.

Except its not selfish to superset to give your child a better life You have not explain why it is None or your reasoning is correct You want to know what makes the childs life more stressful? Constant fighting Iy put a great amount of stress on children. Forcing themselves to live in a marriage that neither wants will cause that. All that resentment building up. Even if they try to keep it hidden, children will still feel it. And eventually, one (or both) of them will explode It causing stress on everyone in the family

Again, you just sprouting more lies. Just because someone doesnt want to get married doesnt mean they always want to have things their way. They just dont want to get married. Or arent ready yet Or they want to get the know the person better If someone just comes off the street that you dont know and wants to get married, you wouldnt say yes, would you? Anyone that would say yes is probably and idiot But the reason they say no isnt because they want to have things their own way. Chances are, its because they dont know the person. You cant sit here and act like you know every reason why people dont want to get married. Everyone is different

Again, marriage absolutely should not be looked at as a sacrifice. Thats already the wrong way to look at it

And who said they want to be single? They just dont want to be together. Thats all that was said. They may want to get married. But they just want to get married to the right person. And some people do want to be single. In this case, that still wouldnt make him selfish. Especially since he wants to be part of his childs life. You are just proving my point that you have no idea how the real world works. You said earlier that life doesnt play out by a schedule. If you know that, you should know life doesnt always follow the same rules Or that everyones life turns out the same You seem to think because your parents couldnt share you with out fighting that everyones parents are like that. You seem to think people only want to stay out of a marriage for one reason. You seem to think that if someone doesnt want to marry a certain person, they must be single These are things based on the posts you posted But those things arent true People are all different They all think different, act different, and feel different You own story doesnt fit all people

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frozenstar
12/27/22 4:10:21 AM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/8/0/AAfWNvAAECAM.jpg

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LinkPizza
12/27/22 4:12:37 AM
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frozenstar posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/8/0/AAfWNvAAECAM.jpg

Haha. Yeah. Its a lot

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IfGodCouldDie
12/27/22 4:48:34 AM
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ToadallyAwesome posted...
Its some alt called Abdul Carter. They have the worst takes and was an account made this month (Dec 2022). Im leaning towards SMAL but Im not quite sure.
Someone was saying it was the living loser guy

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frozenstar
12/27/22 4:51:17 AM
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IfGodCouldDie posted...
Someone was saying it was the living loser guy
yeah, it's living legend

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