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CruelBuffalo
12/22/22 6:10:57 PM
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Lol
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CE_gonna_CE
12/22/22 6:11:18 PM
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Ok

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Dakimakura
12/22/22 6:11:35 PM
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wut

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Verdekal
12/22/22 6:12:18 PM
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Some people painted themselves as Navi for protest when the first one came out.

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FatAnimeBooty
12/22/22 6:13:51 PM
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They're not wrong at all.
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Doom_Art
12/22/22 6:15:38 PM
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I'll never understand the disdain Avatar triggers in some people lol

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Lost_All_Senses
12/22/22 6:16:55 PM
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I seen Avatar 2 on Tuesday. It's an inoffensive decent movie. You'd have to be a try hard to really get in your feefees over people liking it.

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Punished_Blinx
12/22/22 6:17:56 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
I'll never understand the disdain Avatar triggers in some people lol

It made more money than their favorite superheroes did

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Guide
12/22/22 6:21:07 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
I'll never understand the disdain Avatar triggers in some people lol

"1 billion dollars spent on a fart joke, treated as culturally significant" is annoying.

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IShall_Run_Amok
12/22/22 6:21:40 PM
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1. Toph
2. Katara
3. Zuko
4. Iroh
5. Tenzin

That's my avatar character ratings, don't talk to me about cultural impact.

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Glob
12/22/22 6:21:53 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
I'll never understand the disdain Avatar triggers in some people lol

I think it stems from a feeling that it was far more successful than it had any right to be.

While I would go so far as to agree with that sentiment, its not unusual and not worth getting bent out of shape for. We dont live in a meritocracy and theres plenty of media out there that is very successful despite, in my opinion, not being particularly worthy of it.
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VampireCoyote
12/22/22 6:22:17 PM
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FatAnimeBooty posted...
They're not wrong at all.


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Hayame_Zero
12/22/22 6:22:50 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/8/6/AABfkMAAEAte.jpg

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Funkydog
12/22/22 6:27:25 PM
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I'm not sure it did.

But then that's true for most films. Not sure why Avatar is special in that regard. It doesn't mean anything and isn't the knock against it some seem to think it is.

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CruelBuffalo
12/22/22 6:55:13 PM
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Hayame_Zero posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/8/6/AABfkMAAEAte.jpg

Lmaoooo
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IShall_Run_Amok
12/22/22 6:56:33 PM
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Hayame_Zero posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/8/6/AABfkMAAEAte.jpg
brb going to wal mart

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Nirvanas_Nox
12/22/22 6:58:42 PM
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Hayame_Zero posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/8/6/AABfkMAAEAte.jpg

So by blue moons they just mean blue crunchberries they took from the captain crunch boxes

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AceMos
12/22/22 6:59:17 PM
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whats your favorite scene in the movies tc

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Gobstoppers12
12/22/22 6:59:50 PM
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It has very minimal cultural impact. It's not something there are many "fans" of.

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Verdekal
12/22/22 7:09:08 PM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
I seen Avatar 2 on Tuesday. It's an inoffensive decent movie. You'd have to be a try hard to really get in your feefees over people liking it.
The water peoples were very clearly Pacific Islanders. They even had the sticking out tongue gesture.

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FatAnimeBooty
12/22/22 7:09:11 PM
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Funkydog posted...
I'm not sure it did.

But then that's true for most films. Not sure why Avatar is special in that regard. It doesn't mean anything and isn't the knock against it some seem to think it is.
It's interesting, because it's the highest grossing film of all time.
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Background_Guy
12/22/22 7:09:24 PM
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Are people now pretending that Avatar is good be contrarian? We've really gone full circle.
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MacadamianNut3
12/22/22 7:11:05 PM
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When's the next Oscars or whatever, because after that it'll probably be the last time we hear about Avatar 2 until the next big MCU movie with a revenue comparison. Or from out of the blue discussions.

I'm going to MAGFest in 2 weeks and I'll see how many Avatar cosplays I run into. I expect zero tbh unless there's a dedicated cosplay session for it

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Gobstoppers12
12/22/22 7:11:42 PM
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Background_Guy posted...
Are people now pretending that Avatar is good be contrarian? We've really gone full circle.
There were always a few people who'd come around saying "but it made so much money and has good special effects" as if that justified the boring, cliche story.

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Kim_Seong-a
12/22/22 7:15:11 PM
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Funkydog posted...
I'm not sure it did.

But then that's true for most films. Not sure why Avatar is special in that regard. It doesn't mean anything and isn't the knock against it some seem to think it is.

I think people just expect a movie that made as much money as it did and was seen by so large an audience to have made a more significant impact in the cultural collective consciousness.

That said it sort of did. It's something everyone can look at and agree "yeah it was a very pretty, very vapid sort of thing". Sort of like how McDonalds is synonymous with "I'd rather eat most anything else but this is cheap"

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Freddie_Mercury
12/22/22 7:18:15 PM
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avatar really did put this jim camera guy on the map

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Punished_Blinx
12/22/22 7:23:25 PM
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Tbh plenty of movies that have since made over $1 billion dollars are even less 'culturally impactful' than Avatar is.

Jurassic World
The Lion King 2019 (and all of the Disney live action remakes)
Aquaman
Captain Marvel
The Fast and the Furious movies that made over a billion dollars which didn't have that song which got extra meaning because Paul Walker recently died
Incredibles 2
Iron Man 3
Spider-man: Far From Home
Transformers sequels
Zootopia
Finding Dory
Alice in Wonderland
The Hobbit

A whole bunch of movies that at most are associated to a bigger franchise that already had cultural impact before these movies. Nobody really cares about any of these specific movies at all anymore. Hell all of these movies are overall pretty recent. Movies that made significantly less money than them in the 80s and 90s are still overall more 'culturally impactful' than all of these.

Avatar at least has the Na'vi, the influence over 3D movies and the record.

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CruelBuffalo
12/22/22 7:27:13 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...

There were always a few people who'd come around saying "but it made so much money and has good special effects" as if that justified the boring, cliche story.


It was a cliche story but it wasnt boring
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Zikten
12/22/22 7:27:51 PM
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Avatar and the World Cup

2 things some people like to think its cool to know nothing about. It's considered a badge of honor if you never even watched those 2 things
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Gobstoppers12
12/22/22 7:28:03 PM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
It was a cliche story but it wasnt boring
it was for sure boring though, let's be real

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AceMos
12/22/22 7:28:09 PM
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Punished_Blinx posted...
Tbh plenty of movies that have since made over $1 billion dollars are even less 'culturally impactful' than Avatar is.

Jurassic World
The Lion King 2019 (and all of the Disney live action remakes)
Aquaman
Captain Marvel
The Fast and the Furious movies that made over a billion dollars which didn't have that song which got extra meaning because Paul Walker recently died
Incredibles 2
Iron Man 3
Spider-man: Far From Home
Transformers sequels
Zootopia
Finding Dory
Alice in Wonderland
The Hobbit

A whole bunch of movies that at most are associated to a bigger franchise that already had cultural impact before these movies. Nobody really cares about any of these specific movies at all anymore. Hell all of these movies are overall pretty recent. Movies that made significantly less money than them in the 80s and 90s are still overall more 'culturally impactful' than all of these.

Avatar at least has the Na'vi, the influence over 3D movies and the record.

i dont think you know what cultural impact means

most of those movies you listed have lines ppl can quote

they have ppl who can discuss their plots

ppl actually like going back to watch them again

seems you just listed movies you dont like and want to pretend they have had no impact

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AceMos
12/22/22 7:28:38 PM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
It was a cliche story but it wasnt boring
whats your favorite scene

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Punished_Blinx
12/22/22 7:30:01 PM
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AceMos posted...
most of those movies you listed have lines ppl can quote

Go on

Avatar hits the rest of your criteria if that's all it is anyway.

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CruelBuffalo
12/22/22 7:30:40 PM
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AceMos posted...

whats your favorite scene


The scene with the petals when I watched in 3D at the theater
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AceMos
12/22/22 7:31:37 PM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
The scene with the petals when I watched in 3D at the theater
so its not abotu the movie but the visual experience

which is the point ppl are making

its all flash no substance

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Zikten
12/22/22 7:33:14 PM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
The scene with the petals when I watched in 3D at the theater
That and a hallway scene near the start, in a space ship

It had a sense of depth so it felt like I really was looking down a hallway

I wonder if people who call it boring, saw it in 2d. The reason it was interesting in 2009 was the 3d. Not the story. It was the new 3d technology that everyone was amazed by
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AceMos
12/22/22 7:35:11 PM
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Zikten posted...
That and a hallway scene near the start, in a space ship

It had a sense of depth so it felt like I really was looking down a hallway

I wonder if people who call it boring, saw it in 2d. The reason it was interesting in 2009 was the 3d. Not the story. It was the new 3d technology that everyone was amazed by
if you have to watch a movie a certain way for it to be enjoyable then its a bad movie

a film should be jsut as enjoyable at home on your couch as it is in theaters (hell i hate movie theaters they are loud adn croweded)

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Gobstoppers12
12/22/22 7:39:12 PM
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Zikten posted...
The reason it was interesting in 2009 was the 3d. Not the story.
That's kind of the point being made, though. Nobody remembers it because they think the story, characters, etc. were good. They liked it because it was pretty.

I never saw it in theaters, because it looked awful and I saw Sherlock Holmes instead that year...so I can vouch for the idea that the movie does not stand up on its own as anything particularly great.

If you have to see it in a theater with 3D glasses on for it to be good, then the movie itself isn't really that amazing, now, is it?

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Punished_Blinx
12/22/22 7:46:21 PM
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The thing is the cultural impact of a movie just isn't the same as it used to be.

A Few Good Men came out three decades ago. Even if you haven't seen that movie you know the "You Can't Handle the Truth!" line. It was shown in commercials. It was parodied and referenced on TV fand even other movies for over a decade. Everyone got exposed to it. It was unavoidable. This was a military court drama!

These days a movie comes out and more people watch it than ever. Then the fans post memes on social media about it for a bit together. Maybe the hardcore fans stick around and continue posting memes for longer. If it's a franchise there will be merch and other movies to sell to those people. That's about the extent of it. If you don't give a rats ass about it you probably won't be exposed to it much at all outside of seeing it in stores. Parodies in film and TV don't really work anymore considering the internet has long mined that husk before they can get around to it.

Even when you look at The Simpsons back in its peak which referenced movies and other TV shows all the time. It felt natural. Even if it was old. Homer cries out for cancelled Sheriff Lobo in the night and even if you don't know the show it's funny. Now you log on Disney+ and there's an entire short about Loki ending up in Springfield voiced by Tom Hiddleston because Disney now owns both The Simpsons and Marvel. In a world where Simpsons is nowhere near as revelant.

Pop culture is somehow more popular than ever but also more segmented. It's not universal like it used to be. We aren't all watching the same late night hosts every night making jokes we all hear. We consume and move on from things faster than we ever did. Which overall means that the pop culture impact isn't going to be the same.

On top of that in the days before streaming you either had to watch what was on TV or simply watch a video or DVD you already own or rented. It's just different all around.

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mybbqrules
12/22/22 7:48:37 PM
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I saw the original Avatar in theaters in 3d, and thought it was a good movie. However, I don't understand people hating on it or the opposite end of the spectrum where people legitimately got depressed because Pandora isn't real.

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Lost_All_Senses
12/22/22 8:12:49 PM
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Verdekal posted...
The water peoples were very clearly Pacific Islanders. They even had the sticking out tongue gesture.

Everything is inspired by something. They're people you're supposed to like. Granted, Id be ignorant if there is something offensive. So, Id have no idea if it's actually offensive or just overly sensitive people with nothing better to do. It's hard to tell right away when both things are plentiful simultaneously

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masticatingman
12/22/22 8:16:23 PM
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The first one had a decent story tbh.

This release was honestly pretty fucking great but yeah, almost no depth. There were literally significant momentsthat were covered with facial expressions between computer generated beings. I get it, but that type of shit doesnt hold up long term societally.

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EbonTitanium
12/22/22 8:24:10 PM
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I would say that Avatar has a small cultural impact.

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FL81
12/23/22 1:31:31 AM
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Name just one quote spoken by John Avatar. I'll wait.

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Questionmarktarius
12/23/22 1:32:59 AM
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The only meaningful Avatar is Ultima 4
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AceMos
12/23/22 2:08:24 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
The only meaningful Avatar is Ultima 4
aang korra wan kyoshi yangchin and roku would like to have a word with you

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Questionmarktarius
12/23/22 2:09:12 AM
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AceMos posted...
aang korra wan kyoshi yangchin and roku would like to have a word with you
skull of Mondain, tho
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ragnarokius
12/23/22 2:11:09 AM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
I seen Avatar 2 on Tuesday. It's an inoffensive decent movie. You'd have to be a try hard to really get in your feefees over people liking it.
It was alright.

Very pretty.

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Kakapo
12/23/22 2:11:45 AM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
I seen Avatar 2 on Tuesday. It's an inoffensive decent movie. You'd have to be a try hard to really get in your feefees over people liking it.

*Eye twitches*

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