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Vampire_Chicken 12/21/22 10:58:25 AM #52:	Zikten posted... All the true nazis are dead. People pin all the blame on the only one's still alive. ""Prosecute for complicity in what you knew was being done in your workplace" is not the same thing as "burden with all the blame for the Holocaust". And let's not pretend that a two-year suspended sentence is some kind of show trial martyrdom. <cite>Vampire_Chicken posted [p:970314448] in Wait. Japa... [t:80284117]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite><quote>All the true nazis are dead. People pin all the blame on the only one's still alive.</quote>""Prosecute for complicity in what you knew was being done in your workplace" is not the same thing as "burden with all the blame for the Holocaust". And let's not pretend that a two-year suspended sentence is some kind of show trial martyrdom.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Robot2600 12/21/22 11:02:14 AM #53:	von Braun wasn't a Nazi and didn't want to make weapons. They forced him to and he defected to america asap. he led the team that built the Saturn rockets. --- --- <cite>Robot2600 posted [p:970314503] in Wait. Japa... [t:80284117]...</cite> <quote>von Braun wasn't a Nazi and didn't want to make weapons. They forced him to and he defected to america asap. he led the team that built the Saturn rockets.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Robot2600 12/21/22 11:07:38 AM #54:	Zikten posted... All the true nazis are dead. People pin all the blame on the only one's still alive. also they still prosecuted a prison guard in 2022. 18 in 1945 would make you 95 years old today. "167,284 of the 16 million Americans who served in World War II are alive in 2022." -https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/wwii-veteran-statistics so there are probably still 1000s of actual ww2 nazis still alive. --- --- <cite>Robot2600 posted [p:970314599] in Wait. Japa... [t:80284117]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite><quote>All the true nazis are dead. People pin all the blame on the only one's still alive.</quote>also they still prosecuted a prison guard in 2022. 18 in 1945 would make you 95 years old today."167,284 of the 16 million Americans who served in World War II are alive in 2022."-https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/wwii-veteran-statisticsso there are probably still 1000s of actual ww2 nazis still alive.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FurryPhilosifer 12/21/22 11:09:19 AM #55:	Robot2600 posted... so there are probably still 1000s of actual ww2 nazis still alive. oh yeah? name three of them --- Ghosts are cool. <cite>FurryPhilosifer posted [p:970314636] in Wait. Japa... [t:80284117]...</cite> <quote>Robot2600 posted... </cite><quote>so there are probably still 1000s of actual ww2 nazis still alive.</quote>oh yeah? name three of them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vampire_Chicken 12/21/22 11:14:06 AM #56:	FurryPhilosifer posted... oh yeah? name three of them [Expects the argument that if you can't name three Nazis, there can't have ever been more than two.] <cite>Vampire_Chicken posted [p:970314729] in Wait. Japa... [t:80284117]...</cite> <quote>FurryPhilosifer posted... </cite><quote>oh yeah? name three of them</quote>[Expects the argument that if you can't name three Nazis, there can't have ever been more than two.]</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prestoff 12/21/22 11:17:57 AM #57:	SpiritSephiroth posted... Because the older generation in Japan are stubborn as fuck and literally hold the country back in more ways than one. This and sadly they're also the ones who run the politics in the country. Many of the younger generation basically own up to all of their war crimes in WW2. --- DI MOLTO! <cite>Prestoff posted [p:970314814] in Wait. Japa... [t:80284117]...</cite> <quote>SpiritSephiroth posted... </cite><quote>Because the older generation in Japan are stubborn as fuck and literally hold the country back in more ways than one.</quote>This and sadly they're also the ones who run the politics in the country. Many of the younger generation basically own up to all of their war crimes in WW2. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 12/21/22 11:27:31 AM #58:	Robot2600 posted... von Braun wasn't a Nazi and didn't want to make weapons. They forced him to and he defected to america asap. he led the team that built the Saturn rockets. He was Sturmbannfhrer in SS, which is equal to Major. --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:970314998] in Wait. Japa... [t:80284117]...</cite> <quote>Robot2600 posted... </cite><quote>von Braun wasn't a Nazi and didn't want to make weapons. They forced him to and he defected to america asap. he led the team that built the Saturn rockets.</quote>He was Sturmbannfhrer in SS, which is equal to Major.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 12/21/22 11:29:25 AM #59:	Trelve posted... It would have been a disaster to let the knowledge they had go to waste. They weren't leading members of the SS and didn't take part in the Final Solution (although they did use slave labour) - this was probably enough for the Americans to shrug and go "I'd rather work with a Nazi than a Communist". The western Allies already knew as the war was coming to a close that the next enemy was going to be the Soviet Union so to get as much of Germany's top scientists on their side would give them an advantage. Should have gotten what we could out of them and then given them the noose. Just because you can be useful doesn't free you from the consequences of your actions. --- Furthermore, The GOP is a Fascist Organization and must be destroyed <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:970315032] in Wait. Japa... [t:80284117]...</cite> <quote>Trelve posted... </cite><quote>It would have been a disaster to let the knowledge they had go to waste. They weren't leading members of the SS and didn't take part in the Final Solution (although they did use slave labour) - this was probably enough for the Americans to shrug and go "I'd rather work with a Nazi than a Communist".The western Allies already knew as the war was coming to a close that the next enemy was going to be the Soviet Union so to get as much of Germany's top scientists on their side would give them an advantage.</quote>Should have gotten what we could out of them and then given them the noose. Just because you can be useful doesn't free you from the consequences of your actions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Vampire_Chicken 12/21/22 11:36:54 AM #61:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] What might Stauffenberg's relevance be when considering the case of Wernher von Braun? <cite>Vampire_Chicken posted [p:970315177] in Wait. Japa... [t:80284117]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> What might Stauffenberg's relevance be when considering the case of Wernher von Braun?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 12/21/22 11:51:28 AM #62:	Robot2600 posted... so there are probably still 1000s of actual ww2 nazis still alive. By actual true nazi I mean someone who is like at least 30 or older. Not everyone in Germany was a member of the nazi party. Many of them were just normal people I don't think a 17 year old girl who did paperwork, who probably was threatened with death if she didn't, is a true nazi. People are acting like this teenager was in control of the camp <cite>Zikten posted [p:970315483] in Wait. Japa... [t:80284117]...</cite> <quote>Robot2600 posted... </cite><quote>so there are probably still 1000s of actual ww2 nazis still alive.</quote>By actual true nazi I mean someone who is like at least 30 or older. Not everyone in Germany was a member of the nazi party. Many of them were just normal peopleI don't think a 17 year old girl who did paperwork, who probably was threatened with death if she didn't, is a true nazi. People are acting like this teenager was in control of the camp</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vampire_Chicken 12/21/22 11:58:37 AM #63:	Zikten posted... I don't think a 17 year old girl who did paperwork, who probably was threatened with death if she didn't, is a true nazi. The everyday workings of the system, even one whose purpose was mass murder and torture, must have relied heavily on the compliance of many thousands of "ordinary Germans" rather than on an enthusiastic hardcore of the ideologically committed. The road to hell is signposted at regular intervals with "I'm just doing my job." You didn't need to be an SS NCO, or even wear a Party badge, to fill out the bills of lading for shipments of Zyklon B to the gassing camps. <cite>Vampire_Chicken posted [p:970315656] in Wait. Japa... [t:80284117]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite><quote>I don't think a 17 year old girl who did paperwork, who probably was threatened with death if she didn't, is a true nazi.</quote>The everyday workings of the system, even one whose purpose was mass murder and torture, must have relied heavily on the compliance of many thousands of "ordinary Germans" rather than on an enthusiastic hardcore of the ideologically committed. The road to hell is signposted at regular intervals with "I'm just doing my job."You didn't need to be an SS NCO, or even wear a Party badge, to fill out the bills of lading for shipments of Zyklon B to the gassing camps.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 12/21/22 12:00:38 PM #64:	The modern talking point about the bombs having nothing to do with surrender is bizarre. If Japan refused the US' terms, that means they didn't surrender. SMH You don't get to wage war on a massive pacific front and then dictate the terms of peace when you lose. I think you can have an argument about procedural and strategic mistakes and bad motivations regarding the use of the bombs, but this whole thing about how Japan had already surrendered is complete bunk. --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY <cite>Doe posted [p:970315705] in Wait. Japa... [t:80284117]...</cite> <quote>The modern talking point about the bombs having nothing to do with surrender is bizarre. If Japan refused the US' terms, that means they didn't surrender. SMHYou don't get to wage war on a massive pacific front and then dictate the terms of peace when you lose. I think you can have an argument about procedural and strategic mistakes and bad motivations regarding the use of the bombs, but this whole thing about how Japan had already surrendered is complete bunk.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Foppe 12/21/22 12:03:27 PM #66:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] That is a different Nazi. --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:970315768] in Wait. Japa... [t:80284117]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> That is a different Nazi.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Payzmaykr 12/21/22 12:04:06 PM #67:	Didnt the psycho who murdered their prime minister say something about that? <cite>Payzmaykr posted [p:970315791] in Wait. Japa... [t:80284117]...</cite> <quote>Didnt the psycho who murdered their prime minister say something about that?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 12/21/22 12:04:11 PM #68:	Vampire_Chicken posted... The everyday workings of the system, even one whose purpose was mass murder and torture, must have relied heavily on the compliance of many thousands of "ordinary Germans" rather than on an enthusiastic hardcore of the ideologically committed. The road to hell is signposted at regular intervals with "I'm just doing my job." I mean there is something to that. But I still think you shouldn't so harshly punish someone who was a teenage nobody and was likely forced to work. I get that people are upset the real leaders are all dead and escaped punishment. But that doesn't mean you can vent your rage on this lady. Why am I the only person who thinks this girl was going to be excuted if she refused to work? And maybe you could say an adult still should have refused, but she was still a child and scared <cite>Zikten posted [p:970315792] in Wait. Japa... [t:80284117]...</cite> <quote>Vampire_Chicken posted... </cite><quote>The everyday workings of the system, even one whose purpose was mass murder and torture, must have relied heavily on the compliance of many thousands of "ordinary Germans" rather than on an enthusiastic hardcore of the ideologically committed. The road to hell is signposted at regular intervals with "I'm just doing my job."</quote>I mean there is something to that. But I still think you shouldn't so harshly punish someone who was a teenage nobody and was likely forced to work. I get that people are upset the real leaders are all dead and escaped punishment. But that doesn't mean you can vent your rage on this lady. Why am I the only person who thinks this girl was going to be excuted if she refused to work? And maybe you could say an adult still should have refused, but she was still a child and scared </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vampire_Chicken 12/21/22 12:05:28 PM #69:	Zikten posted... But I still think you shouldn't so harshly punish someone A two-year suspended sentence? <cite>Vampire_Chicken posted [p:970315820] in Wait. Japa... [t:80284117]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite><quote>But I still think you shouldn't so harshly punish someone</quote>A two-year suspended sentence?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 12/21/22 12:06:34 PM #70:	Vampire_Chicken posted... A two-year suspended sentence? I thought she was going to prison <cite>Zikten posted [p:970315840] in Wait. Japa... [t:80284117]...</cite> <quote>Vampire_Chicken posted... </cite><quote>A two-year suspended sentence?</quote>I thought she was going to prison </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vampire_Chicken 12/21/22 12:09:08 PM #71:	Zikten posted... Why am I the only person who thinks this girl was going to be excuted if she refused to work? Because in all the many hundreds of postwar trials, defence attorneys have been unable to unearth a single documented case where someone was harshly punished for requesting a transfer to different duties or to a different workplace. Resistance doesn't have to take the form of outright refusal; evasion is also a form of resistance. If you are a 17 year old girl, very far from home and working near the heart of the Nazi death machine, yes, it would take quite a lot of courage to ask to do a different job, or in a different location. And maybe the answer might have been, "No, we need you here" and all further discussion got shut down. But it simply wasn't true that no alternatives were ever possible. <cite>Vampire_Chicken posted [p:970315904] in Wait. Japa... [t:80284117]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite><quote>Why am I the only person who thinks this girl was going to be excuted if she refused to work?</quote>Because in all the many hundreds of postwar trials, defence attorneys have been unable to unearth a single documented case where someone was harshly punished for requesting a transfer to different duties or to a different workplace. Resistance doesn't have to take the form of outright refusal; evasion is also a form of resistance. If you are a 17 year old girl, very far from home and working near the heart of the Nazi death machine, yes, it would take quite a lot of courage to ask to do a different job, or in a different location. And maybe the answer might have been, "No, we need you here" and all further discussion got shut down. But it simply wasn't true that no alternatives were ever possible. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vampire_Chicken 12/21/22 12:21:52 PM #72:	Zikten posted... I thought she was going to prison She did get a two-year jail sentence, but suspended. She won't be spending any time in prison. It's possible that if her trial had taken place 30 years earlier, the story would have ended differently. <cite>Vampire_Chicken posted [p:970316186] in Wait. Japa... [t:80284117]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite><quote>I thought she was going to prison</quote>She did get a two-year jail sentence, but suspended. She won't be spending any time in prison. It's possible that if her trial had taken place 30 years earlier, the story would have ended differently.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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