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OpenlyGator 11/23/22 12:42:20 AM #51:	Single life in the west is pretty cushy for both women and men who aren't obsessed about sex. Also single =/= celibate. When someone says they've been "single for months ", that doesn't necessarily mean they've been bone dry all that time. Like I can respect the old fashioned idea of marriage for people into it, but it's got stiff competition today. It's become the less popular choice in the west as far as sex and getting your relationship urges met. Youth are growing up now getting a lot of their immediate relationship needs at least partially fulfilled without matrimony. And for a lot of people that's more than enough. Raising a family is one of the few competitive prospects of the marriage package and not everyone successful and privileged values doing that when they're already living the high life with less restrictions. I'm really not surprised marriage rates in the US have been on steady decline when divorce rates are over 50%. That's not a great sales pitch... --- The funny thing about telling others to take the high road is how often it's hypocritical advice. http://tryimg.com/8/2017/06/28/IdSqD.png <cite>OpenlyGator posted [p:969631412] in Why don't ... [t:80243796]...</cite> <quote>Single life in the west is pretty cushy for both women and men who aren't obsessed about sex.Also single =/= celibate.When someone says they've been "single for months ", that doesn't necessarily mean they've been bone dry all that time.Like I can respect the old fashioned idea of marriage for people into it, but it's got stiff competition today. It's become the less popular choice in the west as far as sex and getting your relationship urges met. Youth are growing up now getting a lot of their immediate relationship needs at least partially fulfilled without matrimony. And for a lot of people that's more than enough. Raising a family is one of the few competitive prospects of the marriage package and not everyone successful and privileged values doing that when they're already living the high life with less restrictions.I'm really not surprised marriage rates in the US have been on steady decline when divorce rates are over 50%. That's not a great sales pitch...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chunky 11/23/22 12:45:43 AM #52:	I can sort of see where some people are coming from. We live in a world where the men approach and the women say yes or no. There's exceptions, and I'm not saying one side is better than the other. There's advantages and disadvantages to both. As a man, you can choose whoever you want to ask out or whatever. But some people in this topic are probably angry that a woman can easily say yes or no, and that decision is final. That makes people think that it's really the woman's choice, which is true it is their choice, but it still takes the man to have the guts to approach them. --- The n00b of MBH and CE - and proud of it! President Chunkey Simmons, running for 2016. <cite>Chunky posted [p:969631460] in Why don't ... [t:80243796]...</cite> <quote>I can sort of see where some people are coming from. We live in a world where the men approach and the women say yes or no. There's exceptions, and I'm not saying one side is better than the other. There's advantages and disadvantages to both. As a man, you can choose whoever you want to ask out or whatever. But some people in this topic are probably angry that a woman can easily say yes or no, and that decision is final. That makes people think that it's really the woman's choice, which is true it is their choice, but it still takes the man to have the guts to approach them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tehzeldafanboy 11/23/22 2:21:22 AM #54:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] I like how you say not to do it moments after doing it, lol. And no I don't think I'd lose that one. What privileges are men given other than via biology. [LFAQs-redacted-quote] Those studies pertain to marriage, not relationships in general. You're purposely muddying the waters (don't say the topic's about marriage, you're responding to me, not the topic title) Obviously women will be happier with fewer responsibilities or challenges, that's common sense. [LFAQs-redacted-quote] You're really grasping at straws here with these twitter feminist talking points [LFAQs-redacted-quote] You can find a study to confirm anything you want to believe. https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/life-and-relationships/women-think-about-sex-more-than-men-do-according-to-new-survey-20141119-11pffg.html [LFAQs-redacted-quote] Not sure why you bring this up as it reinforces my argument. Yes, few men mate with many women. [LFAQs-redacted-quote] There are men who go their whole lives. I know a guy whose last gf was 7 or 8 years ago. He's 31. That's absurd to women, not a single one in that age bracket could or would go that long barring something like asexuality [LFAQs-redacted-quote] You're mixing and matching elements of my argument to suit yours here. Those women all can and do still have flings, they don't need to date to have sex. --- <le anime sig> <cite>tehzeldafanboy posted [p:969632601] in Why don't ... [t:80243796]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> I like how you say not to do it moments after doing it, lol. And no I don't think I'd lose that one. What privileges are men given other than via biology.<cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Those studies pertain to marriage, not relationships in general. You're purposely muddying the waters (don't say the topic's about marriage, you're responding to me, not the topic title)Obviously women will be happier with fewer responsibilities or challenges, that's common sense.<cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> You're really grasping at straws here with these twitter feminist talking points<cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> You can find a study to confirm anything you want to believe.https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/life-and-relationships/women-think-about-sex-more-than-men-do-according-to-new-survey-20141119-11pffg.html<cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Not sure why you bring this up as it reinforces my argument. Yes, few men mate with many women.<cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> There are men who go their whole lives. I know a guy whose last gf was 7 or 8 years ago. He's 31. That's absurd to women, not a single one in that age bracket could or would go that long barring something like asexuality<cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> You're mixing and matching elements of my argument to suit yours here. Those women all can and do still have flings, they don't need to date to have sex.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tehzeldafanboy 11/23/22 2:24:49 AM #55:	Also I'd just like to point out the sheer on-its-face absurdity of claiming that THE #2 biological imperative behind not dying is something that half (or a large part of half) of the human population just isn't interested in --- <le anime sig> <cite>tehzeldafanboy posted [p:969632630] in Why don't ... [t:80243796]...</cite> <quote>Also I'd just like to point out the sheer on-its-face absurdity of claiming that THE #2 biological imperative behind not dying is something that half (or a large part of half) of the human population just isn't interested in</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1337toothbrush 11/23/22 2:37:14 AM #56:	tehzeldafanboy posted... biological imperative Good lord. --- https://imgur.com/a/FU9H8 - https://i.imgur.com/ZkQRDsR.png - https://i.imgur.com/2x2gtgP.jpg <cite>1337toothbrush posted [p:969632755] in Why don't ... [t:80243796]...</cite> <quote>tehzeldafanboy posted... </cite><quote>biological imperative</quote>Good lord. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tehzeldafanboy 11/23/22 3:02:57 AM #57:	1337toothbrush posted... Good lord. The roulette wheel of innocuous phrases that trigger folks here really does get bigger faster and faster doesn't it. --- <le anime sig> <cite>tehzeldafanboy posted [p:969632972] in Why don't ... [t:80243796]...</cite> <quote>1337toothbrush posted... </cite><quote>Good lord.</quote>The roulette wheel of innocuous phrases that trigger folks here really does get bigger faster and faster doesn't it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 11/23/22 3:20:30 AM #58:	settling down is giving up. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:969633149] in Why don't ... [t:80243796]...</cite> <quote>settling down is giving up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1337toothbrush 11/23/22 3:24:18 AM #59:	tehzeldafanboy posted... The roulette wheel of innocuous phrases that trigger folks here really does get bigger faster and faster doesn't it. No, it just shows your gross misunderstanding of biology. By the way, the claim of "trigger[ing] folks" is also a useful indicator of general misunderstanding. --- https://imgur.com/a/FU9H8 - https://i.imgur.com/ZkQRDsR.png - https://i.imgur.com/2x2gtgP.jpg <cite>1337toothbrush posted [p:969633192] in Why don't ... [t:80243796]...</cite> <quote>tehzeldafanboy posted... </cite><quote>The roulette wheel of innocuous phrases that trigger folks here really does get bigger faster and faster doesn't it.</quote>No, it just shows your gross misunderstanding of biology. By the way, the claim of "trigger[ing] folks" is also a useful indicator of general misunderstanding. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tehzeldafanboy 11/23/22 2:20:01 PM #61:	1337toothbrush posted... No, it just shows your gross misunderstanding https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/0/8/AALjBXAAD6ig.png How about you actually follow along before you jump in with your $.02 --- <le anime sig> <cite>tehzeldafanboy posted [p:969643833] in Why don't ... [t:80243796]...</cite> <quote>1337toothbrush posted... </cite><quote>No, it just shows your gross misunderstanding</quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/0/8/AALjBXAAD6ig.png How about you actually follow along before you jump in with your $.02</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1337toothbrush 11/23/22 2:32:16 PM #62:	tehzeldafanboy posted... https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/0/8/AALjBXAAD6ig.png How about you actually follow along before you jump in with your $.02 There are many examples of organisms not reproducing but taking on a role to assist others with reproduction (e.g. a relative not having kids of their own but helping out with the kids of other family members). You're making a lot of assumptions based on "rules" that are defined with the assumption that everyone needs/wants to have a kid. Life trends toward reproduction because obviously we wouldn't be here otherwise, but that doesn't mean every single organism makes it its mission to reproduce. --- https://imgur.com/a/FU9H8 - https://i.imgur.com/ZkQRDsR.png - https://i.imgur.com/2x2gtgP.jpg <cite>1337toothbrush posted [p:969644133] in Why don't ... [t:80243796]...</cite> <quote>tehzeldafanboy posted... </cite><quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/0/8/AALjBXAAD6ig.png How about you actually follow along before you jump in with your $.02</quote>There are many examples of organisms not reproducing but taking on a role to assist others with reproduction (e.g. a relative not having kids of their own but helping out with the kids of other family members). You're making a lot of assumptions based on "rules" that are defined with the assumption that everyone needs/wants to have a kid. Life trends toward reproduction because obviously we wouldn't be here otherwise, but that doesn't mean every single organism makes it its mission to reproduce. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tehzeldafanboy 11/23/22 2:38:54 PM #63:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] I'm not gonna respond to the rest of your post because this conversation is going nowhere but it's funny you guys keep accusing me of misunderstanding when you think humans actually evolved significantly in an 8000 year time span. That's a blink of an eye dude, humans in their current form have existed for 200,000 years or so. --- <le anime sig> <cite>tehzeldafanboy posted [p:969644281] in Why don't ... [t:80243796]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> I'm not gonna respond to the rest of your post because this conversation is going nowhere but it's funny you guys keep accusing me of misunderstanding when you think humans actually evolved significantly in an 8000 year time span. That's a blink of an eye dude, humans in their current form have existed for 200,000 years or so.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tehzeldafanboy 11/23/22 2:48:12 PM #64:	1337toothbrush posted... There are many examples of organisms not reproducing but taking on a role to assist others with reproduction (e.g. a relative not having kids of their own but helping out with the kids of other family members). You're making a lot of assumptions based on "rules" that are defined with the assumption that everyone needs/wants to have a kid. Life trends toward reproduction because obviously we wouldn't be here otherwise, but that doesn't mean every single organism makes it its mission to reproduce. This is nothing but speculation and assumption itself, though. You're assuming men are somehow not just as active in these sorts of roles, as that's the only thing that would explain a higher sex drive in men in your framing. I'm not buying it. Women want sex, asexual women are not a significant portion, and studies back this up. You're not going to convince me that passing one's genes on is something that fully half the population doesn't care about lmao, get real please --- <le anime sig> <cite>tehzeldafanboy posted [p:969644516] in Why don't ... [t:80243796]...</cite> <quote>1337toothbrush posted... </cite><quote>There are many examples of organisms not reproducing but taking on a role to assist others with reproduction (e.g. a relative not having kids of their own but helping out with the kids of other family members). You're making a lot of assumptions based on "rules" that are defined with the assumption that everyone needs/wants to have a kid. Life trends toward reproduction because obviously we wouldn't be here otherwise, but that doesn't mean every single organism makes it its mission to reproduce.</quote>This is nothing but speculation and assumption itself, though. You're assuming men are somehow not just as active in these sorts of roles, as that's the only thing that would explain a higher sex drive in men in your framing. I'm not buying it. Women want sex, asexual women are not a significant portion, and studies back this up. You're not going to convince me that passing one's genes on is something that fully half the population doesn't care about lmao, get real please</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tehzeldafanboy 11/23/22 3:24:15 PM #66:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] No, we can't. There's a difference in degree but it's still the same tendencies. Millions of years of evolution and the tendencies that go with them aren't erased by 9 decades of critical theory --- <le anime sig> <cite>tehzeldafanboy posted [p:969645319] in Why don't ... [t:80243796]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> No, we can't. There's a difference in degree but it's still the same tendencies. Millions of years of evolution and the tendencies that go with them aren't erased by 9 decades of critical theory</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tehzeldafanboy 11/23/22 3:49:42 PM #68:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Yeah, environmental pressures force those changes, though. No one was rounding up non-compliers and killing them, it doesn't really qualify as intense pressure in the way animals in the wild face. The penalty for not adapting has to be death, remember, in order for evolution to happen. Life has never been safer or easier for humans, we aren't going to be doing any (useful) evolving until things get significantly worse. --- <le anime sig> <cite>tehzeldafanboy posted [p:969645869] in Why don't ... [t:80243796]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Yeah, environmental pressures force those changes, though. No one was rounding up non-compliers and killing them, it doesn't really qualify as intense pressure in the way animals in the wild face. The penalty for not adapting has to be death, remember, in order for evolution to happen.Life has never been safer or easier for humans, we aren't going to be doing any (useful) evolving until things get significantly worse.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bsp77 11/23/22 3:50:54 PM #69:	tehzeldafanboy posted... Yeah, environmental pressures force those changes, though. No one was rounding up non-compliers and killing them, it doesn't really qualify as intense pressure in the way animals in the wild face. The penalty for not adapting has to be death, remember, in order for evolution to happen. Actually, the penalty for not adapting is a failure to pass on genes. Not necessarily death. --- Currently playing: God of War Ragnarok <cite>bsp77 posted [p:969645896] in Why don't ... [t:80243796]...</cite> <quote>tehzeldafanboy posted... </cite><quote>Yeah, environmental pressures force those changes, though. No one was rounding up non-compliers and killing them, it doesn't really qualify as intense pressure in the way animals in the wild face. The penalty for not adapting has to be death, remember, in order for evolution to happen.</quote>Actually, the penalty for not adapting is a failure to pass on genes. Not necessarily death.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tehzeldafanboy 11/23/22 3:59:04 PM #70:	bsp77 posted... Actually, the penalty for not adapting is a failure to pass on genes. Not necessarily death. Well yeah it's death before passing on your genes, specifically. If you die, even immediately after reproducing as many animals do, you've passed the test so to speak --- <le anime sig> <cite>tehzeldafanboy posted [p:969646103] in Why don't ... [t:80243796]...</cite> <quote>bsp77 posted... </cite><quote>Actually, the penalty for not adapting is a failure to pass on genes. Not necessarily death.</quote>Well yeah it's death before passing on your genes, specifically. If you die, even immediately after reproducing as many animals do, you've passed the test so to speak</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tehzeldafanboy 11/23/22 4:04:01 PM #72:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Yes but there has to be pressure that makes them so. I don't think women are refusing to reproduce with anyone but progressive men, if anything it's closer to the opposite, lol. Most big families are conservative, just ask Mormons. [LFAQs-redacted-quote] There's no evidence of this, though --- <le anime sig> <cite>tehzeldafanboy posted [p:969646219] in Why don't ... [t:80243796]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Yes but there has to be pressure that makes them so. I don't think women are refusing to reproduce with anyone but progressive men, if anything it's closer to the opposite, lol. Most big families are conservative, just ask Mormons.<cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> There's no evidence of this, though</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tehzeldafanboy 11/23/22 4:34:42 PM #74:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_pressure Any cause that reduces or increases reproductive success in a portion of a population potentially exerts evolutionary pressure, selective pressure or selection pressure, driving natural selection. Literally the first sentence, lol. That IS a form of pressure. [LFAQs-redacted-quote] Yes but barely. Elections go one way about as often as the do the other (I know about gerrymandering and whatnot, don't bother). The difference is single digits percentage-wise. The left has this dream of conservatives going extinct and they insist it's happening faster and faster but it just hasn't (In the US at least) and probably never will. And we're in easy times right now. Imagine if (when) shit hits the fan, you think people who give a crap about representation in marvel movies are going to be calling any shots? lol, just lol if you do. [LFAQs-redacted-quote] This kind of supports my argument better than yours though. They do that because conservatism would help their chances of landing a wife. [LFAQs-redacted-quote] Guess which is going to find it harder to get a wife? https://ifstudies.org/blog/more-than-money-the-liberal-conservative-divide-in-marriage/ [LFAQs-redacted-quote] Yeah well you let me know when you have something. --- <le anime sig> <cite>tehzeldafanboy posted [p:969646969] in Why don't ... [t:80243796]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_pressureAny cause that reduces or increases reproductive success in a portion of a population potentially exerts evolutionary pressure, selective pressure or selection pressure, driving natural selection.Literally the first sentence, lol. That IS a form of pressure.<cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Yes but barely. Elections go one way about as often as the do the other (I know about gerrymandering and whatnot, don't bother). The difference is single digits percentage-wise.The left has this dream of conservatives going extinct and they insist it's happening faster and faster but it just hasn't (In the US at least) and probably never will. And we're in easy times right now. Imagine if (when) shit hits the fan, you think people who give a crap about representation in marvel movies are going to be calling any shots? lol, just lol if you do.<cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> This kind of supports my argument better than yours though. They do that because conservatism would help their chances of landing a wife.<cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Guess which is going to find it harder to get a wife?https://ifstudies.org/blog/more-than-money-the-liberal-conservative-divide-in-marriage/<cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Yeah well you let me know when you have something.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1337toothbrush 11/23/22 4:35:36 PM #75:	tehzeldafanboy posted... Well yeah it's death before passing on your genes, specifically. If you die, even immediately after reproducing as many animals do, you've passed the test so to speak Not necessarily. What if you've had your gametes frozen and used successfully after your death? Genetic engineering brings in a whole host of other questions as well. What is passing on your genes if you then edit them? --- https://imgur.com/a/FU9H8 - https://i.imgur.com/ZkQRDsR.png - https://i.imgur.com/2x2gtgP.jpg <cite>1337toothbrush posted [p:969646992] in Why don't ... [t:80243796]...</cite> <quote>tehzeldafanboy posted... </cite><quote>Well yeah it's death before passing on your genes, specifically. If you die, even immediately after reproducing as many animals do, you've passed the test so to speak</quote>Not necessarily. What if you've had your gametes frozen and used successfully after your death? Genetic engineering brings in a whole host of other questions as well. What is passing on your genes if you then edit them? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tehzeldafanboy 11/23/22 4:59:19 PM #76:	1337toothbrush posted... Not necessarily. What if you've had your gametes frozen and used successfully after your death? Then you've successfully animal'd. 1337toothbrush posted... What is passing on your genes if you then edit them? It's passing on genes that are partially you --- <le anime sig> <cite>tehzeldafanboy posted [p:969647496] in Why don't ... [t:80243796]...</cite> <quote>1337toothbrush posted... </cite><quote>Not necessarily. What if you've had your gametes frozen and used successfully after your death?</quote>Then you've successfully animal'd.1337toothbrush posted... </cite><quote>What is passing on your genes if you then edit them?</quote>It's passing on genes that are partially you</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kakapo 11/23/22 5:02:19 PM #77:	I love it when we get biology experts on CE. Its always a wild ride. --- I was born underground but when the pressure gets too much for me I bite 24 hour party parrot <cite>Kakapo posted [p:969647586] in Why don't ... [t:80243796]...</cite> <quote>I love it when we get biology experts on CE.Its always a wild ride.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 11/23/22 5:03:25 PM #78:	1337toothbrush posted... Then fix your topic title: "Why don't attractive women want to get married to me?" Topic should have ended here. EDIT AFTER READING THE WHOLE THING: I take it back. Boy has this been a hoot to read. --- CyricZ He/him <cite>CyricZ posted [p:969647607] in Why don't ... [t:80243796]...</cite> <quote>1337toothbrush posted... </cite><quote>Then fix your topic title: "Why don't attractive women want to get married to me?"</quote>Topic should have ended here.EDIT AFTER READING THE WHOLE THING: I take it back. Boy has this been a hoot to read.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1337toothbrush 11/23/22 5:04:20 PM #79:	tehzeldafanboy posted... It's passing on genes that are partially you I'm gonna have to invoke Ship of Theseus on this. At what point does it stop being your genes? --- https://imgur.com/a/FU9H8 - https://i.imgur.com/ZkQRDsR.png - https://i.imgur.com/2x2gtgP.jpg <cite>1337toothbrush posted [p:969647629] in Why don't ... [t:80243796]...</cite> <quote>tehzeldafanboy posted... </cite><quote>It's passing on genes that are partially you</quote>I'm gonna have to invoke Ship of Theseus on this. At what point does it stop being your genes?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tehzeldafanboy 11/23/22 5:21:21 PM #80:	1337toothbrush posted... I'm gonna have to invoke Ship of Theseus on this. At what point does it stop being your genes? The portions that are identical to yours are yours. The portions that aren't, aren't. Ship of Theseus doesn't apply here at all --- <le anime sig> <cite>tehzeldafanboy posted [p:969648004] in Why don't ... [t:80243796]...</cite> <quote>1337toothbrush posted... </cite><quote>I'm gonna have to invoke Ship of Theseus on this. At what point does it stop being your genes?</quote>The portions that are identical to yours are yours. The portions that aren't, aren't. Ship of Theseus doesn't apply here at all</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1337toothbrush 11/23/22 5:24:17 PM #81:	tehzeldafanboy posted... The portions that are identical to yours are yours. The portions that aren't, aren't. Ship of Theseus doesn't apply here at all Except we share a lot of DNA and they're really just reconfigurations. --- https://imgur.com/a/FU9H8 - https://i.imgur.com/ZkQRDsR.png - https://i.imgur.com/2x2gtgP.jpg <cite>1337toothbrush posted [p:969648076] in Why don't ... [t:80243796]...</cite> <quote>tehzeldafanboy posted... </cite><quote>The portions that are identical to yours are yours. The portions that aren't, aren't. Ship of Theseus doesn't apply here at all</quote>Except we share a lot of DNA and they're really just reconfigurations. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tehzeldafanboy 11/23/22 5:25:51 PM #82:	1337toothbrush posted... Except we share a lot of DNA and they're really just reconfigurations. The Ship of Theseus wasn't a reconfiguration though, was it. It was an exact replica. --- <le anime sig> <cite>tehzeldafanboy posted [p:969648100] in Why don't ... [t:80243796]...</cite> <quote>1337toothbrush posted... </cite><quote>Except we share a lot of DNA and they're really just reconfigurations.</quote>The Ship of Theseus wasn't a reconfiguration though, was it. It was an exact replica.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tehzeldafanboy 11/23/22 6:27:41 PM #84:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] No I haven't lol, safety/security still grinds that to a near halt. That's why you have animals like crocodilians that have hardly changed in millions of years, they are already a very effective design. Like I said, 8000 years is nothing even in harsh times, it certainly isn't anything in these times. [LFAQs-redacted-quote] Yeah, 5% is a single digit. [LFAQs-redacted-quote] You demonstrate that you haven't talked to many conservative men if you think this is true. And "progressive" also changes in meaning, maybe you're the big shitlord and you just don't know it yet. Wait til your grandkids come along, they'll tell you what's what. [LFAQs-redacted-quote] You call those views outdated which seems to imply they were appropriate at some point previously so let me ask you this: when was that? When did today's traditional values make sense and benefit society? [LFAQs-redacted-quote] I wouldn't really call divorce and custody battles a "traditional" practice. [LFAQs-redacted-quote] This is complete conjecture though, what you said about population density may be true but you haven't shown this at all. [LFAQs-redacted-quote] How do you figure? That's the only way there's an excuse to be an incel. I'm saying women can get sex much more easily, incels can only exist when that's the case. If it were equally easy for everyone incels would be all set --- <le anime sig> <cite>tehzeldafanboy posted [p:969649482] in Why don't ... [t:80243796]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> No I haven't lol, safety/security still grinds that to a near halt. That's why you have animals like crocodilians that have hardly changed in millions of years, they are already a very effective design. Like I said, 8000 years is nothing even in harsh times, it certainly isn't anything in these times.<cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Yeah, 5% is a single digit.<cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> You demonstrate that you haven't talked to many conservative men if you think this is true. And "progressive" also changes in meaning, maybe you're the big shitlord and you just don't know it yet. Wait til your grandkids come along, they'll tell you what's what.<cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> You call those views outdated which seems to imply they were appropriate at some point previously so let me ask you this: when was that? When did today's traditional values make sense and benefit society?<cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> I wouldn't really call divorce and custody battles a "traditional" practice.<cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> This is complete conjecture though, what you said about population density may be true but you haven't shown this at all.<cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> How do you figure? That's the only way there's an excuse to be an incel. I'm saying women can get sex much more easily, incels can only exist when that's the case. If it were equally easy for everyone incels would be all set</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 11/23/22 6:35:44 PM #85:	tehzeldafanboy posted... I wouldn't really call divorce and custody battles a "traditional" practice. --- CyricZ He/him <cite>CyricZ posted [p:969649691] in Why don't ... [t:80243796]...</cite> <quote>tehzeldafanboy posted... </cite><quote>I wouldn't really call divorce and custody battles a "traditional" practice.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tehzeldafanboy 11/23/22 6:44:03 PM #86:	CyricZ posted... I'mma just repeat what I told the other guy and say try to follow along before pitching in your $.02. --- <le anime sig> <cite>tehzeldafanboy posted [p:969649887] in Why don't ... [t:80243796]...</cite> <quote>CyricZ posted... </cite><quote></quote>I'mma just repeat what I told the other guy and say try to follow along before pitching in your $.02.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tehzeldafanboy 11/23/22 7:57:29 PM #88:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] It hasn't though, women still prefer tall men (not interested in your exceptions, before you start with that), for instance. Men still prefer wide hips. [LFAQs-redacted-quote] Trump was popular among his own side but people vote against a candidate just as much as for one. He was very hated on the other side and there was this thing that happened on January 6th you might have heard of. People were highly motivated on that election. [LFAQs-redacted-quote] Doesn't this kind of undermine your overall point that conservatives are a dying breed? So, to recap, republicans are conservative and some democrats are conservative. Hmm... [LFAQs-redacted-quote] I knew you'd say something like this but it's good to have my suspicion confirmed I guess. It's just wrong, those roles were given because they make sense. When people had to labor to live it would make 0 sense for women to be in the field tilling soil and chopping wood while men were in the house baking and rocking the baby. Fucking cartoon world that'd be. [LFAQs-redacted-quote] Lol it's not even true going by the math assumptions you're making. Your estimation earlier was based on the 2020 election where Biden won by ~7 million votes. Trump got about 74m so that's less than 10% greater. The difference in marriage rates between liberal and conservative is 11%. [LFAQs-redacted-quote] This is the closer option but it's still off. I didn't ever say men are struggling more. Neither women nor men have changed qualitatively, worldly circumstances have just allowed them both to ease up on their respective demands of the other. Roles are more homogenized but they're still absolutely there and make sense to be. I wouldn't expect a woman to carry furniture up stairs and women shouldn't expect me to be interested in babysitting. The expectations are still there, just not as strong or as rigid because things are not as harsh due to advancements in civilization and labor and whatnot. --- <le anime sig> <cite>tehzeldafanboy posted [p:969651692] in Why don't ... [t:80243796]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> It hasn't though, women still prefer tall men (not interested in your exceptions, before you start with that), for instance. Men still prefer wide hips.<cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Trump was popular among his own side but people vote against a candidate just as much as for one. He was very hated on the other side and there was this thing that happened on January 6th you might have heard of. People were highly motivated on that election.<cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Doesn't this kind of undermine your overall point that conservatives are a dying breed? So, to recap, republicans are conservative and some democrats are conservative. Hmm...<cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> I knew you'd say something like this but it's good to have my suspicion confirmed I guess. It's just wrong, those roles were given because they make sense. When people had to labor to live it would make 0 sense for women to be in the field tilling soil and chopping wood while men were in the house baking and rocking the baby. Fucking cartoon world that'd be.<cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Lol it's not even true going by the math assumptions you're making. Your estimation earlier was based on the 2020 election where Biden won by ~7 million votes. Trump got about 74m so that's less than 10% greater. The difference in marriage rates between liberal and conservative is 11%.<cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> This is the closer option but it's still off. I didn't ever say men are struggling more. Neither women nor men have changed qualitatively, worldly circumstances have just allowed them both to ease up on their respective demands of the other. Roles are more homogenized but they're still absolutely there and make sense to be. I wouldn't expect a woman to carry furniture up stairs and women shouldn't expect me to be interested in babysitting. The expectations are still there, just not as strong or as rigid because things are not as harsh due to advancements in civilization and labor and whatnot.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 11/23/22 8:00:01 PM #89:	tehzeldafanboy posted... I'mma just repeat what I told the other guy and say try to follow along before pitching in your $.02. If you want to get arrogant about it, allow me to elaborate: Divorce and custody are ancient practices, even from the time of Hammurabi. https://phillyesquire.com/history-of-divorce-meaning/ Now you may be crafting your own definition of "traditional" here, but there's nothing new about the concept. It may have grossly favored the man of the relationship, but there were possibilities, remote though they were, for the woman of the relationship, even back then. --- CyricZ He/him <cite>CyricZ posted [p:969651750] in Why don't ... [t:80243796]...</cite> <quote>tehzeldafanboy posted... </cite><quote>I'mma just repeat what I told the other guy and say try to follow along before pitching in your $.02.</quote>If you want to get arrogant about it, allow me to elaborate:Divorce and custody are ancient practices, even from the time of Hammurabi.https://phillyesquire.com/history-of-divorce-meaning/Now you may be crafting your own definition of "traditional" here, but there's nothing new about the concept. It may have grossly favored the man of the relationship, but there were possibilities, remote though they were, for the woman of the relationship, even back then.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tehzeldafanboy 11/23/22 8:53:04 PM #90:	CyricZ posted... Divorce and custody are ancient practices, even from the time of Hammurabi. We don't get our traditions and customs from the time of Hammurabi though, do we. The tradition that actually exists in the US among conservatives is that marriage is supposed to be a lifelong bond --- <le anime sig> <cite>tehzeldafanboy posted [p:969652953] in Why don't ... [t:80243796]...</cite> <quote>CyricZ posted... </cite><quote>Divorce and custody are ancient practices, even from the time of Hammurabi.</quote>We don't get our traditions and customs from the time of Hammurabi though, do we. The tradition that actually exists in the US among conservatives is that marriage is supposed to be a lifelong bond </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 11/23/22 9:14:54 PM #92:	tehzeldafanboy posted... We don't get our traditions and customs from the time of Hammurabi though, do we. The tradition that actually exists in the US among conservatives is that marriage is supposed to be a lifelong bond Going all the way back? Of course we do. Do you think like traditions just... stop? At some point? And people invented the exact same new ones later on? I realize this is an incredibly low-stakes point to be arguing. --- CyricZ He/him <cite>CyricZ posted [p:969653481] in Why don't ... [t:80243796]...</cite> <quote>tehzeldafanboy posted... </cite><quote>We don't get our traditions and customs from the time of Hammurabi though, do we. The tradition that actually exists in the US among conservatives is that marriage is supposed to be a lifelong bond</quote>Going all the way back? Of course we do. Do you think like traditions just... stop? At some point? And people invented the exact same new ones later on?I realize this is an incredibly low-stakes point to be arguing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tehzeldafanboy 11/24/22 3:12:45 AM #93:	CyricZ posted... Going all the way back? Of course we do. Do you think like traditions just... stop? At some point? And people invented the exact same new ones later on? Uhh, yes and yes. Traditions fall out of practice and sometimes develop again, or similarly in other places. Marriage is practiced pretty much all over the world, it's not universally a holdover from the babylonian empire or whoever first thought it up, lol --- <le anime sig> <cite>tehzeldafanboy posted [p:969659278] in Why don't ... [t:80243796]...</cite> <quote>CyricZ posted... </cite><quote>Going all the way back? Of course we do. Do you think like traditions just... stop? At some point? And people invented the exact same new ones later on?</quote>Uhh, yes and yes. Traditions fall out of practice and sometimes develop again, or similarly in other places. Marriage is practiced pretty much all over the world, it's not universally a holdover from the babylonian empire or whoever first thought it up, lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vengeance29 11/24/22 3:37:20 AM #94:	VigorouslySwish posted... Because they dont need to and because marriage is a scam until youre no longer attractive then its worth it <cite>Vengeance29 posted [p:969659553] in Why don't ... [t:80243796]...</cite> <quote>VigorouslySwish posted... </cite><quote>Because they dont need to and because marriage is a scam until youre no longer attractive then its worth it</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tehzeldafanboy 11/24/22 3:46:36 AM #95:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] This is a myth. Overweight is unhealthy, there's no reason it'd ever be considered fit/fertile/healthy/etc. Men have always preferred healthy weights (what would be considered neither underweight or overweight by BMI, just so we're 100% clear), by and large. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/8/2/AALjBXAAD6re.jpg [LFAQs-redacted-quote] It served a very bad purpose, namely driving living costs up because now the expectation is that households have two workers in them, not one. Also if a baby's mom died then I hope he/she likes formula. You now seem to be saying women working is a bad thing? You're in real danger of stumbling onto why roles make sense with this errant rambling you keep doing. [LFAQs-redacted-quote] That's not true though, you even admitted earlier that many democrats are conservative which completely undermines this point. [LFAQs-redacted-quote] Well you're a solid one then, good on you I suppose [LFAQs-redacted-quote] Hey if technology reaches a point where women can be as physically effective as men then by all means they should help out with the heavy lifting. My only point is that we're not there right now. [LFAQs-redacted-quote] To be clear, I said you have a privilege in one specific regard, something I can safely assume without knowing anything about you other than your sex. This is something the left is very familiar with conceptually, I can tell you I'm a white guy and you can comfortably attribute certain privileges to me as well. But anyway it's clear you don't like how this convo is going so I'm gonna follow your lead and say that I'm done here, feel free to reply to this but don't expect any more replies from me. --- <le anime sig> <cite>tehzeldafanboy posted [p:969659633] in Why don't ... [t:80243796]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> This is a myth. Overweight is unhealthy, there's no reason it'd ever be considered fit/fertile/healthy/etc. Men have always preferred healthy weights (what would be considered neither underweight or overweight by BMI, just so we're 100% clear), by and large.https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/8/2/AALjBXAAD6re.jpg <cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> It served a very bad purpose, namely driving living costs up because now the expectation is that households have two workers in them, not one. Also if a baby's mom died then I hope he/she likes formula. You now seem to be saying women working is a bad thing? You're in real danger of stumbling onto why roles make sense with this errant rambling you keep doing.<cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> That's not true though, you even admitted earlier that many democrats are conservative which completely undermines this point.<cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Well you're a solid one then, good on you I suppose<cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Hey if technology reaches a point where women can be as physically effective as men then by all means they should help out with the heavy lifting. My only point is that we're not there right now.<cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> To be clear, I said you have a privilege in one specific regard, something I can safely assume without knowing anything about you other than your sex. This is something the left is very familiar with conceptually, I can tell you I'm a white guy and you can comfortably attribute certain privileges to me as well.But anyway it's clear you don't like how this convo is going so I'm gonna follow your lead and say that I'm done here, feel free to reply to this but don't expect any more replies from me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tehzeldafanboy 11/24/22 3:48:19 AM #96:	Lol I knew gfaqs would butcher that pic, oh well. It's ancient art depicting slender women, you get the idea. It's always been the ideal. --- <le anime sig> <cite>tehzeldafanboy posted [p:969659645] in Why don't ... [t:80243796]...</cite> <quote>Lol I knew gfaqs would butcher that pic, oh well. It's ancient art depicting slender women, you get the idea. It's always been the ideal.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pepys_Monster 11/24/22 10:27:28 AM #97:	tehzeldafanboy posted... This is a myth. Overweight is unhealthy, there's no reason it'd ever be considered fit/fertile/healthy/etc. Men have always preferred healthy weights (what would be considered neither underweight or overweight by BMI, just so we're 100% clear), by and large. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/8/2/AALjBXAAD6re.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/7/4/AADDnxAAD6ue.jpg --- Ryzen 3700X \| ASUS RTX 3070 8GB \| 16GB DDR4 3200 \| Crucial MX500 2TB <cite>Pepys_Monster posted [p:969664185] in Why don't ... [t:80243796]...</cite> <quote>tehzeldafanboy posted... </cite><quote>This is a myth. Overweight is unhealthy, there's no reason it'd ever be considered fit/fertile/healthy/etc. Men have always preferred healthy weights (what would be considered neither underweight or overweight by BMI, just so we're 100% clear), by and large.https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/8/2/AALjBXAAD6re.jpg </quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/7/4/AADDnxAAD6ue.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crimsoness 11/24/22 10:28:56 AM #98:	They do. They just don't wanna marry you Pepys probably because they have standards. --- CrimsonAngel's alt <cite>Crimsoness posted [p:969664212] in Why don't ... [t:80243796]...</cite> <quote>They do. They just don't wanna marry you Pepys probably because they have standards.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kinetika_ 11/24/22 10:29:20 AM #99:	gunplagirl posted... Ironically enough I know a few attractive women who rarely ever get asked out by anyone because most people are either too nervous or assume they're already taken. And when they do get asked out it's by the people who hit on everyone. Yup... I've seen this often myself. <cite>kinetika_ posted [p:969664221] in Why don't ... [t:80243796]...</cite> <quote>gunplagirl posted... </cite><quote>Ironically enough I know a few attractive women who rarely ever get asked out by anyone because most people are either too nervous or assume they're already taken. And when they do get asked out it's by the people who hit on everyone.</quote>Yup... I've seen this often myself.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
McMarbles 11/24/22 10:37:59 AM #100:	To you. They dont want to get married to you. --- Currently playing: Stardew Valley (Switch) Never befriend a man in sandals and always measure twice, cut once. <cite>McMarbles posted [p:969664380] in Why don't ... [t:80243796]...</cite> <quote>To you. They dont want to get married to you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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