Current Events > Why don't attractive women want to get married?

(+) Yeah! (+)

They're always looking for something casual.

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Glob posted...

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I'm clearly talking about anecdotal experiences.

Pepys_Monster posted...

I'm clearly talking about anecdotal experiences.

Then fix your topic title: "Why don't attractive women want to get married to me?"

Because they dont need to and because marriage is a scam until youre no longer attractive then its worth it

Ironically enough I know a few attractive women who rarely ever get asked out by anyone because most people are either too nervous or assume they're already taken. And when they do get asked out it's by the people who hit on everyone.

gunplagirl posted...

Ironically enough I know a few attractive women who rarely ever get asked out by anyone because most people are either too nervous or assume they're already taken. And when they do get asked out it's by the people who hit on everyone.

"A gentleman asked me out, but it doesn't count because he's single and asks out everyone."

Pepys_Monster posted...

"A gentleman asked me out, but it doesn't count because he's single and asks out everyone."

This is somehow not the most bitter post I've seen today, somehow

They just want your fat dick and don't want your fat heart.

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Just like successful men don't really gain much from marriage today, period.

Many of them do want to get married, the reality is that relationships are hard and they don't want to settle.

ClockworkHare posted...

Just like successful men don't really gain much from marriage today, period.

Heterosexual cis men typically don't have friends they form strong emotional bonds with and often offload emotional burdens onto their female partners. Women usually have stronger connections with people who they can discuss heavier topics and spread out onto multiple people.
Additionally even in households with similar income levels and work hours, the woman is usually doing more housework and scheduling tasks. Even successful men benefit from a marriage better than successful women.

Hinakuluiau posted...

Many of them do want to get married, the reality is that relationships are hard and they don't want to settle.

Heterosexual cis men typically don't have friends they form strong emotional bonds with and often offload emotional burdens onto their female partners. Women usually have stronger connections with people who they can discuss heavier topics and spread out onto multiple people.
Additionally even in households with similar income levels and work hours, the woman is usually doing more housework and scheduling tasks. Even successful men benefit from a marriage better than successful women.

WTF are you talking about? Claiming that most straight men dont have close friends is all kinds of deluded.

I don't know if he was joking or not but the revelation that TC's ex-fiancee that he has been pining for multiple years was 18 while he was 29 and that he proposed to her after 3 months makes all his topics far harsher than they used to be.

Hinakuluiau posted...

Heterosexual cis men typically don't have friends they form strong emotional bonds with and often offload emotional burdens onto their female partners.

Tf?

Because if they got married they'd have to vote Republican.

Typically you won't have a girlfriend if you have no friends lol

Plenty of attractive women are married. Some just choose not to be for the same reasons as anyone else - focus on their career, focus on themselves, don't want to have their schedule or life revolve around someone else, freedom to bang whomever, etc.

Maybe this is the time for some self reflection?

-BrokenSpiral- posted...

Tf?

It's fairly well known that straight men don't share their vulnerabilities with their friends and will typically hold onto their feelings and bottle them up in an unhealthy manner. When they start dating they tend to push much of their emotional labor onto the partner who has other people she can share with.
This isn't a novel concept, a lot of women talk about how their ex's would offload all kinds of trauma and other personal experiences onto them instead of therapy and their friends

Hinakuluiau posted...

It's fairly well known that straight men don't share their vulnerabilities with their friends and will typically hold onto their feelings and bottle them up in an unhealthy manner. When they start dating they tend to push much of their emotional labor onto the partner who has other people she can share with.
This isn't a novel concept, a lot of women talk about how their ex's would offload all kinds of trauma and other personal experiences onto them instead of therapy and their friends

Unfortunately, there is truth to this. Not that they don't have friends, but it stays surface level. Luckily, this is slowly changing as some men feel less need to be all stoic in that BS traditional sense.

For me, my guy friends and I unload all our psychological baggage during our monthly cigar nights. It is healthy so that I don't unload everything on my fiance (although she does know everything about me)

Incel alert

ClockworkHare posted...

Just like successful men don't really gain much from marriage today, period.

This. Men are statistically going to get screwed over harder, too. 95% of the time, its the man who gets stuck paying alimony and child support. Absolutely no reason to get married if this is how things are. One argument and someone walks away with half of your earnings forever?

sometimes i log into this site just to see what weird thing people are saying today.

Once you get married the looks go away. You get lazy and its like "im marri3d, wgi am i trying to impress"
Then when you get divorced youre screwed. "I used to be so hot!"

gunplagirl posted...

Ironically enough I know a few attractive women who rarely ever get asked out by anyone because most people are either too nervous or assume they're already taken.

I mean "rarely" is a relative term (rarely compared to what she expects or rarely compared to other women?) but it does make sense logically. Attractive women might as well not exist to me, it's inconceivable to me that they're either single or don't have 2-3+ side chads lined up waiting for them to be. Seems like a total waste of time to go after attractive women unless you're famous or something

But again it's relative, idk if those women are actually getting propositioned less often, or just less often than they think they should be. I find it hard to believe 10s are getting hit up less often than 7s

Ikzai posted...

sometimes i log into this site just to see what weird thing people are saying today.

That's why I log in 100% of the time

SauI_Goodman posted...

Once you get married the looks go away. You get lazy and its like "im marri3d, wgi am i trying to impress"
Then when you get divorced youre screwed. "I used to be so hot!"

Fuck. I forgot to do the marrying part. I just did the latter

Hinakuluiau posted...

This isn't a novel concept, a lot of women talk about how their ex's would offload all kinds of trauma and other personal experiences onto them instead of therapy and their friends

Lol this is so fucked. You're supposed to show your most intimate feelings not to your intimate partner but to the boys and some stranger? Wtf

Come on women. Come on.

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Did you ever consider, you know...making the first move? It's weird how this isn't even a possibility to so many women. Literally the smallest effort could get you the world but nah, just keep waiting. Mr. Right is bound to discover you sooner or later.

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Nah I'm not interested in your husband or his specs but have you ever been in a relationship that you DID initiate? Where you asked the guy for the first date (or whatever) rather than vice-versa? I mean online dating is just stupid, we all know this. It's a last resort option as far as I'm concerned, an attractive woman wouldn't need to do that if she'd actually take initiative like guys (have to) do in real life. It's amazing how women don't realize how easy they'd have it in this regard if they'd put forth an ounce of effort, they just find it beneath them.

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Well that's just privilege though. Of course women don't see that as a need or think about it, they don't have to. Men do. Women will always get scooped up sooner or later if they let it happen, men actually risk ending up alone forever if they don't do enough.

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To most women, yeah. But again, you don't worry about it because there's no need to. You already described as much.

It's a fact that we have more female ancestors than male, and that's because sex is essentially a birthright for women. What you're saying is like saying Americans by and large don't care about whether or not their next meal will come. Well, I guess that's technically true...but why is that? The answer is obvious.

The same is said about sex, that women don't care as much. Same thing applies, they simply don't need to.

tehzeldafanboy posted...

Well that's just privilege though. Of course women don't see that as a need or think about it, they don't have to. Men do. Women will always get scooped up sooner or later if they let it happen, men actually risk ending up alone forever if they don't do enough.

To most women, yeah. But again, you don't worry about it because there's no need to. You already described as much.

It's a fact that we have more female ancestors than male, and that's because sex is essentially a birthright for women. What you're saying is like saying Americans by and large don't care about whether or not their next meal will come. Well, I guess that's technically true...but why is that? The answer is obvious.

The same is said about sex, that women don't care as much. Same thing applies, they simply don't need to.

What is your purpose here? It simply sounds bitter.

the thing most men don't understand is that the way to find a woman is to focus on self improvement, which means forming hobbies that get them interacting with people

in theory this would also be true for women but more often it's a way to meet unavailable, excellent men, who have zero available excellent friends

also "initiating" from women looks very different from how guys think

it almost never* takes the form of a cold approach. much more commonly it takes the form of overt openness to the playful flirting that tends to happen when two people who have shared interests and aren't vastly different in attractiveness interact the first few times

maybe the guy makes a 0.1% effort and she makes a 0.11% effort, but the point is that the action is reciprocated. maybe she makes the first 0.01% effort. men love to claim that they don't see it, but once you're past high school, you'll fucking know it if it's happening

men who say "women never initiate anything" are probably not talking to women very much because the nature of flirting requires both participants to be active--otherwise, a socially ept man who flirts and gets no response will think "oh, she shot that down, I should not continue flirting, that would be creepy."

*it did once and it was fucking awkward but it still worked on me

Sackgurl posted...

also "initiating" from women looks very different from how guys think

it almost never* takes the form of a cold approach. much more commonly it takes the form of overt openness to the playful flirting that tends to happen when two people who have shared interests and aren't vastly different in attractiveness interact the first few times

maybe the guy makes a 0.1% effort and she makes a 0.11% effort, but the point is that the action is reciprocated. maybe she makes the first 0.01% effort. men love to claim that they don't see it, but once you're past high school, you'll fucking know it if it's happening

*it did once and it was fucking awkward but it still worked on me

The entitlement

VigorouslySwish posted...

Because they dont need to and because marriage is a scam until youre no longer attractive then its worth it

Pretty much this, could have closed this topic awhile ago.

tehzeldafanboy posted...

Well that's just privilege though. Of course women don't see that as a need or think about it, they don't have to. Men do. Women will always get scooped up sooner or later if they let it happen, men actually risk ending up alone forever if they don't do enough.

To most women, yeah. But again, you don't worry about it because there's no need to. You already described as much.

It's a fact that we have more female ancestors than male, and that's because sex is essentially a birthright for women. What you're saying is like saying Americans by and large don't care about whether or not their next meal will come. Well, I guess that's technically true...but why is that? The answer is obvious.

The same is said about sex, that women don't care as much. Same thing applies, they simply don't need to.

Jesus fucking Christ dude... You have so many misconceptions that you're using to make sweeping generalizations.

None of what you're saying is accurate.

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Sackgurl posted...

the thing most men don't understand is that the way to find a woman is to focus on self improvement, which means forming hobbies that get them interacting with people

That's not really self-improvement though is it, it's just forcing yourself to do things you don't like until you (hopefully) do.

Sackgurl posted...

it almost never* takes the form of a cold approach. much more commonly it takes the form of overt openness to the playful flirting

That's somehow even less effective than the average guy using a dumb pick-up line on a girl, lol. Everyone knows guys can't take hints for shit.

Also, if that's the bar for what women taking initiative looks like then you've proven my point that women generally just don't do it.

Also also, men often ignore that because if you're wrong you're just a creep. You see it on the internet in places like this all the time when people make fun of incels, them thinking everything is flirtation. The unfortunate thing about hints is that they're only hints. You never know if it's a hint or a -nothing-

PBusted posted...

I don't know if he was joking or not but the revelation that TC's ex-fiancee that he has been pining for multiple years was 18 while he was 29 and that he proposed to her after 3 months makes all his topics far harsher than they used to be.

Jesus Christ.

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That's not relevant to the privilege I was talking about. Men gain and lose rights too, these things are in flux as always.

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I don't believe that's true.

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That's not relevant to the analogy I was making. The point is only that women don't worry about it because they don't have to. You can make the analogy about money and rich kids instead, whatever. Also very debatable anyway, you won't die without your parents' love as an infant either, it's still considered a need.

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If this were the case, you would have an equal number of male/female ancestors, which you don't. If it were in flux like you say then trends would have reversed repeatedly and the law of averages would equalize this.

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It applies the exact same, what do you mean? Women who don't have sex are asexual or whatever, I don't care about that insignificant minority.

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I don't really care about online dating, it's similar in terms of the trends I'm talking about but it's not the same as in-person interactions. It has its own slew of particularities and I have no experience with it so I don't care to discuss it