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lilORANG
11/20/22 11:15:52 AM
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I just finished it, and I've been ruminating.

Is the latter half worse than the first half? Yes. But season 2 is also worse than season 1. The show has been on a decline from the beginning, so by the time you get all the way through the end, you've seen lots of stupid bs and the stupid bs appears with greater frequency as you go so I was just kinda used to it by the time seasons 7 and 8 rolled around. Maybe binging helped in that regard, since I wasn't waiting weeks between episodes and a year between seasons.

And honestly 5 was by far the worst in terms of stupid plot nonsense so 6, 7, and 8 being an improvement was cool.

And in a way I can more easily forgive bad characterizion bc it's clear the writers just didn't know how to handle complex characters like Tyrion and LF and Varys, so they just kinda flanderized them or put them in the background, which is annoying but it's bc they were kinda trying to work around their weaknesses. Less forgivable is when it feels like they insult the intelligence of their audience, like when the entire dothraki army clearly dies (for no reason) fighting the night king.... and then they are just back in the next episode with some throwaway line that only "half" of them died.


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thx1138
11/20/22 11:24:03 AM
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I need to start this show

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ManaYuka
11/20/22 12:01:54 PM
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Its more the general sense and feeling the fanbase got from the showrunners that started around season 5. Also the behind the scenes of every episode really pissed everyone off at the time cause they were so outrageous, you really are missing a lot of the fan hatred towards the showrunners by just binging it now.

Dan and Dave at this time checked out. But they also didnt want to pass the show over to new showrunners by Season 5 either due to their ego, so we got this halfassed attempt at an ending.

Around Seasson 4/5 they started complaining that the show was too much, showrunning a show like GOT that filmed around the world, took basically 9 months of grueling work and they could never see their family. An understandable grievance. But as I said instead of giving the show to new showrunners like Miguel Sapochnick, they kept it themselves and told HBO no more then 7 seasons(Even though HBO wanted 10, and GRRM thought the show needed 10-12 to be told properly).

D and D checked out, only negotiated a split season 7 to two, thus a 7 episode season 7, and a 6 episode season 8. We also heard rumblings they wanted to make a Star Wars movie, so this showed further evidence they wanted to leave westeros half finished instead of making a 10 season show.

It led to them basically deleting an entire plotline from the books that needed to be there to tell the show properly( Aegon Targaryen) and instead merged Jon Snow with this character instead, this plotline would have needed 10 seasons). Which leaves Cersei on the throne and basically makes it dumb for Dany to act the way she did. Cersei isnt beloved by the people she literally destroyed their religion and high Septon. Dany should be praised all across Westeros for removing this tyrant, yet they made dany hated. Only makes sense if Aegon is on the throne, not Cersei.

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lilORANG
11/20/22 4:15:34 PM
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I get disdain for the showrunners adding to dislike of the show. It can be hard to separate the two. But honestly we got some real dumb moments in the first 4 seasons when they were still following the source material, so it's not all D&D. But the dumb moments come in greater frequency near the end so that's probably partly them rushing thrive things and partly bc their strengths were in adapting the source material and they're not particularly good at writing original material.

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ManaYuka
11/20/22 10:05:39 PM
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Just want to say one more thing in regard to Aegon Targaryen being cut-

GRRM called this the second dance of the dragons, but instead we got Dany vs Cersei.

Instead of a war or dragons we got basically a one sided affair.

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