Current Events > Raiders can't fire Josh McDaniels because they don't have the cash to do it

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Bio1590
11/16/22 2:51:28 PM
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https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1592936037810061312

Literally a poverty franchise

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Butterfiles
11/16/22 2:51:43 PM
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Vegas deserves this joke franchise

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Damn_Underscore
11/16/22 3:00:07 PM
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Yo Ill coach the team at a discount

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K181
11/16/22 3:02:46 PM
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Raiders voluntarily hired someone that.....

A) Had a shitty record previously as a head coach,

B) Was a Patriots coordinator, and

C) Previously spurned another team in the most unprofessional manner imaginable.

Raiders deserve all the shit they're getting for ignoring not one, not two, but three major warning signs.

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bo_danvers
11/16/22 3:07:00 PM
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MICHALECOLE
11/16/22 3:08:35 PM
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Every bet I made at the start of the year was anti raiders bets, and if they stay as terrible as they have been Im gonna make a good chunk of change
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voldothegr8
11/16/22 3:10:30 PM
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The Raiders are the 15th most valuable sports team on earth, how this dude so poor?

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GreenMario
11/16/22 3:12:49 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1592936037810061312

Literally a poverty franchise
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/9/9/AAfWc4AAD44H.jpg

Also he's making this face

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K181
11/16/22 3:13:57 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
The Raiders are the 15th most valuable sports team on earth, how this dude so poor?

Because their owner's wealth is basically entirely tied to the team. Basically every other owner is wealthy on top of the team they own.

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Compsognathus
11/16/22 3:16:32 PM
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This is hilarious.

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Norman_Smiley
11/16/22 3:18:48 PM
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K181 posted...
Because their owner's wealth is basically entirely tied to the team. Basically every other owner is wealthy on top of the team they own.

and they are just generally poorly ran. Packers have a cash reserve around half billion dollars, and they have to be self sufficient.. Because they have been competently ran for like 30 years.

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Jagr_68
11/16/22 3:19:41 PM
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So they moved from Oakland TO Vegas...and they still don't have money rofl

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K181
11/16/22 3:21:05 PM
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Jagr_68 posted...
So they moved from Oakland TO Vegas...and they still don't have money rofl

That's the kicker, they took on a load of debt to build their new stadium, so they're even tighter on cash than they were in Oakland.

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Bishop9800
11/16/22 3:22:01 PM
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Mark Davis wanted to be in Vegas so bad. He thought he could build a new following, and it would be better then Oakland. Now look at what's going on. They're worse off there. From what I'm hearing, Vegas don't want them.

Get fucked Davis!! You're nothing like your father.

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Jagr_68
11/16/22 3:23:12 PM
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K181 posted...
That's the kicker, they took on a load of debt to build their new stadium, so they're even tighter on cash than they were in Oakland.

Wtf thought real estate would be cheaper in Nevada?! God the Raiders suck lol

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K181
11/16/22 3:23:52 PM
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Bishop9800 posted...
Mark Davis wanted to be in Vegas so bad. He thought he could build a new following, and it would be better then Oakland. Now look at what's going on. They're worse off there. From what I'm hearing, Vegas don't want them.

Get fucked Davis!! You're nothing like your father.

To be fair, he really wanted to be in LA, but the Chargers got dibs over there for some reason despite the fact that the Raiders have a meaningful fanbase in LA while the Chargers in LA are even less of an afterthought than the Nets in New York.

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K181
11/16/22 3:25:21 PM
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Jagr_68 posted...
Wtf thought real estate would be cheaper in Nevada?! God the Raiders suck lol

Real estate is nothing. The building was the money sink.

A bare bones new NFL stadium would cost at least $750 million, and they couldn't skimp that much in a glitzy market.

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King_Rial
11/16/22 3:26:22 PM
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I mean, they kind of get what they deserved. Josh McDaniels just can't hack it as a HC.

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Bandit_Keith
11/16/22 3:26:29 PM
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Bishop9800 posted...
Mark Davis wanted to be in Vegas so bad. He thought he could build a new following, and it would be better then Oakland. Now look at what's going on. They're worse off there. From what I'm hearing, Vegas don't want them.

Get fucked Davis!! You're nothing like your father.
Spoken like an Oaklander.

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Halo478
11/16/22 3:28:21 PM
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Norman_Smiley posted...
and they are just generally poorly ran. Packers have a cash reserve around half billion dollars, and they have to be self sufficient.. Because they have been competently ran for like 30 years.
Packers have no owners the people own shares of the packers when the packers need money they sell more shares its not the same

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Bishop9800
11/16/22 3:30:00 PM
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K181 posted...
To be fair, he really wanted to be in LA, but the Chargers got dibs over there for some reason despite the fact that the Raiders have a meaningful fanbase in LA while the Chargers in LA are even less of an afterthought than the Nets in New York.

Yeah, but LA didnt want to go though that bullshit with them again. That's why the Chargers got dibs on LA.

Bandit_Keith posted...
Spoken like an Oaklander.

Born and bred!

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Bio1590
11/16/22 3:50:18 PM
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Pretty sure the Chargers got dibs because Kroenke wasn't going to let his team be second fiddle in a stadium he was building >_>

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MICHALECOLE
11/16/22 3:51:16 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
Pretty sure the Chargers got dibs because Kroenke wasn't going to let his team be second fiddle in a stadium he was building >_>
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Bishop9800
11/16/22 3:56:17 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
Pretty sure the Chargers got dibs because Kroenke wasn't going to let his team be second fiddle in a stadium he was building >_>

The Raiders and Rams shared a stadium once. I'm sure Kroenke didn't want to go through that shit again. Like LA.

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Northlane
11/16/22 3:59:06 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
Pretty sure the Chargers got dibs because Kroenke wasn't going to let his team be second fiddle in a stadium he was building >_>
This is the reason, his ego wouldn't let him

The NFL basically told Davis tough shit, suck it up... compensated him for missing out on Los Angeles and told him to look for a stadium elsewhere

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noisetank
11/16/22 3:59:14 PM
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not surprising when the team owner looks like this:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/4/8/AABrhoAAD444.jpg

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Nosferatu_Zodd
11/16/22 4:02:22 PM
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Lifelong Pats fan here, I could have told Mark Davis that Josh would be a terrible HC if he just asked me

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voldothegr8
11/16/22 5:15:35 PM
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Bishop9800 posted...
Mark Davis wanted to be in Vegas so bad. He thought he could build a new following, and it would be better then Oakland. Now look at what's going on. They're worse off there. From what I'm hearing, Vegas don't want them.

Get fucked Davis!! You're nothing like your father.
He tried for years to get a deal done in Oakland, don't forget their politicians drove away their NBA team and on the verge of doing the same with their MLB team.

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Were_Wyrm
11/16/22 5:18:46 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
He tried for years to get a deal done in Oakland, don't forget their politicians drove away their NBA team and on the verge of doing the same with their MLB team.
Good, if some other city wants to give billionaires welfare let them.

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thronedfire2
11/16/22 5:18:58 PM
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I guess he won't be back on the Pats until 2024 then

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MICHALECOLE
11/16/22 5:19:26 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
He tried for years to get a deal done in Oakland, don't forget their politicians drove away their NBA team and on the verge of doing the same with their MLB team.
drove away by not building them a new stadium with taxpayer money?
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voldothegr8
11/16/22 5:20:56 PM
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MICHALECOLE posted...
drove away by not building them a new stadium with taxpayer money?
That's how stadiums get built now, love it or hate it, for better or worse.

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Medussa
11/16/22 5:21:16 PM
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is it a severance issue? couldn't they just promote a coordinator temporarily, without a pay raise until he gets the job for real after next year?

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Medussa
11/16/22 5:22:28 PM
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yeah, i guess.

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MICHALECOLE
11/16/22 5:33:10 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
That's how stadiums get built now, love it or hate it, for better or worse.
Yeah, and as a rams fan, look how that ended up for st Louis
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voldothegr8
11/16/22 5:47:48 PM
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MICHALECOLE posted...
Yeah, and as a rams fan, look how that ended up for st Louis

You hate it and it's for the worse in that situation. Doesn't change the fact that's how stadiums get built now.

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Damn_Underscore
11/16/22 5:49:25 PM
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Tbh having Mark Davis as your owner is the type of thing that will happen eventually when Al Davis is your owner

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Bishop9800
11/16/22 7:20:52 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
He tried for years to get a deal done in Oakland, don't forget their politicians drove away their NBA team and on the verge of doing the same with their MLB team.

No, the money for the stadium was there. He just wanted more. Oakland was willing to put up 250 million. Mind you, we're still paying for all the work done on the coliseum when they came back to Oakland. In fact, Alameda County was willing to give them the property that the coliseum sits on! All they had to do is build their own stadium. Vegas came along and offered them more money. It's also should be noted that a Standford economic professor wrote a story saying that Vegas was getting a bad deal. Plus Al Davis never wanted to leave Oakland, and felt that Vegas would be a bad place for NFL team.

As for the A's, I think we will give them what they want.

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Aridi
11/16/22 7:45:51 PM
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Oakland A's are privately funding the new stadium at Jack London Square, but that's all up in the air now too since Schaaf is done. I really hope we don't go to Vegas.

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Bishop9800
11/16/22 8:02:05 PM
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Aridi posted...
Oakland A's are privately funding the new stadium at Jack London Square, but that's all up in the air now too since Schaaf is done. I really hope we don't go to Vegas.

I don't think they will. The city is willing to play ball with them. (no pun intended)

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