Current Events > Just finished Westworld season 4. *Spoilers*

(+) Yeah! (+)

What was this huge waste of a time of a season? I... what? No seriously what was that?

Season 1 was great.

Season 2 was a bit silly and obtuse at times, but entertaining.

Season 3 was ridiculous, but entertaining.

Season 4... was not entertaining. It was just boring. And they didn't even explain how not-charlotte was controlling humans with her stupid the fly project. At least go the mgs route and throw out the word "nanomachines!" or something

What was the point of the human characters resistance group

I really don't understand how people were saying it's better than season 4 or starts off strong, it does neither, it starts off gross with weird body horror fly crap and just keeps getting worse/boring.

Season 3 on the other hand had that hilarious eyes wide shut episode with the sex party, I couldn't stop laughing at how ridiculous that was but the soundtrack is straight fire and was just straight up entertaining.

Plus every season had a more or less clear theme and what was going on every season. 1 is all about birth of artificial intelligence and being self-aware. 2 is about rebelling with a bit about humans wanting to live forever. 3 is about free will and rebelling/rage against the machine I dunno.

4 is about... weird flies that make humans bleed black blood like something out of the thing or cronenburg's the fly? And not-charlotte just faffing about wasting time doing "revenge" on humans and somehow controlling all the known world?

I gave up after season 3. It seems like after season 1 they didn't really know what to do. Season 2 is just more of season 1, and season 3 and 4 are just totally different Sci-Fi series compared to the first two seasons. It's like they've decided the show is going to be black mirror, only each episode's gimmick is going to be stretched out over an entire season.

I didn't watch black mirror but based on all that I've heard and seen about it being a dystopian sci-fi series I'm inclined to agree. With Westworld though it's just so dumb. When it was just focused on the westworld island it was fine, but when they tried to expand it to "all the world, the entire earth is actually just like westworld" it was eyeroll worthy and not remotely believable.

saspa posted...

Plus every season had a more or less clear theme and what was going on every season. 1 is all about birth of artificial intelligence and being self-aware. 2 is about rebelling with a bit about humans wanting to live forever. 3 is about free will and rebelling/rage against the machine I dunno.

4 is about... weird flies that make humans bleed black blood like something out of the thing or cronenburg's the fly? And not-charlotte just faffing about wasting time doing "revenge" on humans and somehow controlling all the known world?

I think they all had pretty strong themes relating to power, social constructs, and the juxtaposition (and blurring of boundaries between) the "real" and "artificial." Beyond that they all explore other facets of human nature that tie back in to the main themes. Season 1 was about the nature of emerging consciousness, and about what, if anything, separates "real" consciousness from "artificial" consciousness. Season 2 looks at the nature of personality, as well as the transhumanist concepts of and transferable consciousness, copied consciousness, immortality, survival, and how those concepts clash with the power structures we associate with modern society, as well as the nature of memory and how it differs (and doesn't) from experience. Season 3 re-examines the juxtaposition of "real" versus "artificial" from Season 1 through the lens of identity, and begins to reverse the roles of "real" and "artificial" within its own narrative, postulating that within systems of control any distinction between "real" and "artificial" consciousness is indeed meaningless. Season 4 builds on some of the seeds planted in Seasons 2 and 3, exploring how the conscious ideas of self and identity are inextricably tied to the physicalmolded by both experience/memory and also the very nature of the body that contains them. It also completes the reversal of roles started in Season 3whereas before the reversal of "real" and "artificial" was metaphorical, with humans trapped in their own loops, enslaved by an omniscient AI, now the subversion of Season 1's power structures are complete: hosts are now guests, the real world is now the park, etc.

Now, does the show do all of this well? Not always. Season 2 had some really bad parts, Season 3 was, as you put it, very ridiculous at times, and Season 4 didn't feel like it really knew where it was going until about a third of the way in, and then completely dropped the ball in the last episode.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zFvGxiYwoc

This brilliant bit of soundtrack is basically why I stuck with season 3, just a chance to hear something close to it was enough. It's so fucking good

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how would they even do a 5th

season 4 had possibly the worst ending of a show of all time and they wrote themselves into a corner where theres nothing to care about

Reading up on some other opinions of the season and I'm the glad I wasn't the only one wondering what other people were talking about when praising season 4. I really don't see what they were seeing because it was quite terrible, and I actually like tessa thompson and that one ridiculous scene where she had the human hosts pose into a chair for her to sit on. Was laughing my chest out.

Such a stupid fucking season

I've only seen the first season. Is it worth watching the rest?

darkmaian23 posted...

I've only seen the first season. Is it worth watching the rest?

No

If you haven't watched anything since season 1 I'd say might as well wait until season 5, the final season, comes out so you can just watch everything straight away

saspa posted...

If you haven't watched anything since season 1 I'd say might as well wait until season 5, the final season, comes out so you can just watch everything straight away

Lol

darkmaian23 posted...

I've only seen the first season. Is it worth watching the rest?

I saw a few episodes of season 2 and ducked out. Looks like I made the right decision

Season 4 had weird pacing issues. It had a cool mystery and then let that loose too quickly, but also didn't have enough episodes left to wrap up the rest of the season without rushing it. Pretty much "Everyone dies to wrap up their story, but then can be remade in the matrix because they live on in our hearts. The End"

Why anyone wanted to see a season 5 in the matrix is beyond me. Felt like a hastily slopped together ending for where it stopped and no reason to go on.

I'm sorry

saspa posted...

If you haven't watched anything since season 1 I'd say might as well wait until season 5, the final season, comes out so you can just watch everything straight away

Lol that ain't happening anymore. CANCELLED.

I also watched wee worl (my nickname for it). And yeah it just kind of goes downhill and more disappointing with stupid fluffy english meanings.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLn6yDpEottdjfBvPI2xNfCWSaRiaAtEFU
It was always funw atching each episode broken down to understand it though through this guy. Unfortunately S4 didn't get that treatment.

Just watch season 1 and fuck off. Maybe 2 if you want to see different world's that's about it.

Yeah I haven't been able to stop laughing.

You know what watch the first season now is enough, and if you want to watch more you have the option. But at least the first season is some interesting TV