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NeoShadowhen
10/27/22 12:20:59 PM
#51:


cuttin_in_farm posted...
The idea that kids are always subject to being dumb and cant have responsibility seems like a thing I exclusively see from white communities.

Have you considered the possibility that you dont have any perspective on the issue?
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LotsOfHorror
10/27/22 12:21:14 PM
#52:


cuttin_in_farm posted...
Yea, it does.
No, it doesn't. Moving on.

dave_is_slick posted...
Stop trying to excuse them. Unless you have a disorder or something, you know not to steal cars.
Nobody is trying to excuse what they did. Doesn't change the fact that teen brains literally do not have the proper connections to reliably connect their current actions to consequences.
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hyperpowder
10/27/22 12:21:33 PM
#53:


inloveanddeath0 posted...
14yo mother? Stopped reading there


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Popcorn2000
10/27/22 12:21:51 PM
#54:


Solid_Sonic posted...
Shut down TikTok.
Shut down 14-year-old mothers
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SpiritSephiroth
10/27/22 12:23:32 PM
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Geezus, 14 year old mother?

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Northlane
10/27/22 12:24:52 PM
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Bunch of stupid teens raised by stupid parent or parents die doing a stupid thing, meh

I'm never agreed with this notion that just because people havent hit the magic age of 18 they should be absolved of whatever stupid shit they do

Most kids start showing a requisite moral sense of being able to tell right from wrong around age 7

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SuperShake666
10/27/22 12:25:14 PM
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Everything about this title is awful.

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LotsOfHorror
10/27/22 12:25:46 PM
#58:


Northlane posted...
I'm never agreed with this notion that just because people havent hit the magic age of 18 they should be absolved of whatever stupid s*** they do
Nobody is arguing that.

Northlane posted...
Most kids start showing a requisite moral sense of being able to tell right from wrong around age 7
But not the ability to connect current actions to consequences.
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samsungsalt
10/27/22 12:28:09 PM
#60:


LotsOfHorror posted...
But not the ability to connect current actions to consequences.
Fuck off with this excuse already, even when I was 7 I would be able to know that doing x will get me y punishment.

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LotsOfHorror
10/27/22 12:29:59 PM
#61:


samsungsalt posted...
Fuck off with this excuse already, even when I was 7 I would be able to know that doing x will get me y punishment.
It's not an excuse, it's a well studied and documented fact.
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A_Good_Boy
10/27/22 12:36:02 PM
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Them Kia Boy videos sure are wild. Imagine owning a kia in Baltimore and then suddenly tik tok just starts showing people how to steal your shit.

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meestermj
10/27/22 12:36:59 PM
#63:


LotsOfHorror posted...
It's not an excuse, it's a well studied and documented fact.
Why even bring it up?
There is no reason to bring it up in this context other than trying to excuse or lessen their actions.

People already ahve empathy/sympathy because no sane human being wants kids to die.
All you're doing is being divisive and disingenuous and deviating from the topic at hand.

Teens not being dully developed in no way excuses their actions, lessens the seriousness, or absolves them of responsibility.
They behaved stupidly.
People died because of it.
End of.

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Paragon21XX
10/27/22 12:38:22 PM
#64:


LotsOfHorror posted...
It's not an excuse, it's a well studied and documented fact.
Quote these studies then.
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That's what I fucking thought.

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LotsOfHorror
10/27/22 12:38:42 PM
#65:


meestermj posted...
Why even bring it up?
Because it's relevant to the discussion? I brought it up directly explaining how it doesn't mean they were awful people.

meestermj posted...
People already ahve empathy/sympathy because no sane human being wants kids to die.
There are quite literally posts saying otherwise.
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cuttin_in_farm
10/27/22 12:43:22 PM
#66:


TC is a fucking hack and hes legit pissing me off with his passive aggressive superiority bullshit.

Just ignore him is my suggestion.

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LotsOfHorror
10/27/22 12:47:15 PM
#68:


cuttin_in_farm posted...
TC is a fucking hack and hes legit pissing me off with his passive aggressive superiority bullshit.

Just ignore him is my suggestion.
Please block me, I wouldn't see you anymore and it'd make my experience significantly better.
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cuttin_in_farm
10/27/22 12:48:28 PM
#69:


Shit, just realized its a new account.

I got trolled. Damnit.

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DirkDiggles
10/27/22 12:49:18 PM
#70:


1NfamousACE_2 posted...
Blame the parents

Doubtful they care.

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LotsOfHorror
10/27/22 12:51:42 PM
#71:


cuttin_in_farm posted...
Shit, just realized its a new account.

I got trolled. Damnit.
And yet I've been around longer than you, so doesn't really invalidate anything I'm saying.
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Dragon56
10/27/22 12:56:02 PM
#72:


People just love making excuses for dumb decisions and lack of individual responsibility.

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silverpine
10/27/22 1:20:06 PM
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this bothers me because the "kia challenge" isn't the dangerous part. if the consequence were jail or being shot by the police, sure. but this is the same as crashing any car. just stealing a car won't kill you
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samsungsalt
10/27/22 1:24:26 PM
#75:


silverpine posted...
this bothers me because the "kia challenge" isn't the dangerous part. if the consequence were jail or being shot by the police, sure. but this is the same as crashing any car. just stealing a car won't kill you
Im sure this opinion will be unpopular but every video on tick tock showing this challenge or promoting it even should have the account traced and user giving maximum punishment on grand theft auto. No exceptions.

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Master_Kazuya
10/27/22 1:26:35 PM
#77:


What is the challenge? It's 8 pages so I don't feel like reading thru

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ViewtifulGrave
10/27/22 1:26:46 PM
#78:


LotsOfHorror posted...
Kids do dumb things and are mentally incapable of fully grasping consequences.
People keep saying this, but is there any truth to? Because I was fully cognizant of the things I did as a kid.

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Number090684
10/27/22 1:28:19 PM
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Well...you know.
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LotsOfHorror
10/27/22 1:29:25 PM
#80:


ViewtifulGrave posted...
People keep saying this, but is there any truth to? Because I was fully cognizant of the things I did as a kid.
It is absolutely true, but it isn't an absolute. Some kids might be better at it, and all kids will at times have their brain function properly and recognize the consequences, but it's a limitation the brain has as that's one of the last things to develop. The vast, vast majority of people can look back at their childhood and find something or other than they did without fully recognizing or understanding the consequences.
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VandorLee
10/27/22 1:33:23 PM
#81:


This is amazing how instead of reading teens steal car and wreck it killing someone its "people died attempting a tiktok challenge".

They are literally wreckless car thieves but we can just say they tried a tiktok challenge instead....

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A_Good_Boy
10/27/22 1:34:39 PM
#82:


Master_Kazuya posted...
What is the challenge? It's 8 pages so I don't feel like reading thru
It's apparently super easy to steal a Kia. It's been a while since I've seen the videos explaining how, but tik tok has a few tutorial videos out there showing how to do it, and locked doors on a Kia are a mere suggestion. So a bunch of kids (mostly in Baltimore) have been stealing parked Kias and just treating them like their own personal game of GTA or bumper cars and posting the videos under the hashtag #KiaBoys. Then once they finally total the cars they dip out and then repeat.

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KiwiTerraRizing
10/27/22 1:45:23 PM
#83:


LotsOfHorror posted...
Kids do dumb things and are mentally incapable of fully grasping consequences.

They are capable of knowing right from wrong as small children

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LotsOfHorror
10/27/22 1:46:16 PM
#84:


KiwiTerraRizing posted...
They are capable of knowing right from wrong as small children
You should read the topic so you don't make redundant and already disputed arguments.
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A_Good_Boy
10/27/22 1:49:08 PM
#85:


LotsOfHorror posted...
You should read the topic so you don't make redundant and already disputed arguments.
You mentioned studies but haven't posted a single one. You haven't disputed anything.

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Savoots
10/27/22 1:51:44 PM
#86:


cuttin_in_farm posted...
Im sick of people on the internet saying shit like They were kids, so they cant think like adults.

14 is not a toddler. You know not to fucking steal cars.

This is some white people shit. If I even thought to touch my moms car, Im getting my ass beat. I assure you I could connect consequences at the age of 14 just fine.

Shut the fuck up.

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AsucaHayashi
10/27/22 1:59:24 PM
#87:


there will never be a more relevant time to post this:
https://youtu.be/75XKGVwGEt4?t=52

also, i can totally see a tik tok challenge letting random strangers piss on you and teens taking up the challenge in droves xd

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I4NRulez
10/27/22 1:59:25 PM
#88:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
Why are tiktok challenges so often dangerous and dumb?

because social media is a disease and tik tok is shitty at moderating these things.

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cuttin_in_farm
10/27/22 2:01:38 PM
#89:


Savoots posted...
Shut the fuck up.

Post 86 responding to post 47.

Youre really showing me whos boss, huh?

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Bio1590
10/27/22 2:06:51 PM
#90:


LotsOfHorror posted...

Teenage brains have not fully formed, and there have been multiple studies that show they don't correctly connect actions to consequences in the moment like adults do. Not defending what they did obviously, but you can both condemn what they did AND have sympathy and understanding.

"In the moment" has no relevancy to something that was clearly planned ahead of time

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gatorsPENSbucs
10/27/22 2:09:32 PM
#91:


cuttin_in_farm posted...


This is some white people shit.

Huh?


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NeoShadowhen
10/27/22 2:11:43 PM
#92:


gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Huh?

I think they are referring to the idea of attributing poor decision making by teenagers to the fact that their brain isnt fully developed. Apparently belief in such things has some sort of racial component. Is that accurate, cuttin?
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cuttin_in_farm
10/27/22 2:21:59 PM
#93:


NeoShadowhen posted...
I think they are referring to the idea of attributing poor decision making by teenagers to the fact that their brain isnt fully developed. Apparently belief in such things has some sort of racial component. Is that accurate, cuttin?

Yes. As I elaborated later.

Its obviously anecdotal. But this notion that young people (I say that because people somehow lump teenagers in with toddlers as a catch all children label), cant be fully cognizant of their actions and repercussions is something I only see from white people.

Minority communities dont say that stupid shit. At least not the ones I grew up around. Even podcasts and media I watch dont perpetuate this logic when its primarily minorities.

TC, for example, is citing studies as law when hes more than likely not interpreting the result correctly or naively applying the conclusion to too many situations.

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LotsOfHorror
10/27/22 2:23:16 PM
#94:


cuttin_in_farm posted...
TC, for example, is citing studies as law when hes more than likely not interpreting the result correctly or naively applying the conclusion to too many situations.
No, I'm interpreting and applying it correctly.
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ECW_Originals12
10/27/22 2:23:31 PM
#95:


Giant_Aspirin posted...
child brains are not fully developed, particularly in the areas that assess risk. how many dumb ass things did you do as a kid? probably a lot, i know i did. don't be so quick to judge a reckless decision, especially one made by a literal child, or to dismiss the sanctity of life.

yes, what they did was reckless and potentially dangerous to others, and it's fortunate that nobody else was killed or hurt. but they were still children who died. have some compassion.

exactly.

LotsOfHorror posted...
Kids do dumb things and are mentally incapable of fully grasping consequences.

LMAO
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Jiggy101011
10/27/22 2:24:18 PM
#96:


So kids just being stupid. Like it's incredibly tragic and my heart goes out to those families that have to bury their young children due to the idiot driver, but I dont see why people are blaming tiktok.

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LotsOfHorror
10/27/22 2:25:59 PM
#97:


Jiggy101011 posted...
So kids just being stupid. Like it's incredibly tragic and my heart goes out to those families that have to bury their young children due to the idiot driver, but I dont see why people are blaming tiktok.
I mean, TikTok ABSOLUTELY has a responsibility to moderate content and remove dangerous fads like this. Still doesn't make them wholly or even primarily at fault, though.
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ThePrinceFish
10/27/22 2:28:44 PM
#98:


Society is failing on several levels here.

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FL81
10/27/22 2:28:50 PM
#99:


ViewtifulGrave posted...
People keep saying this, but is there any truth to? Because I was fully cognizant of the things I did as a kid.
it's true to the extent to know not to STEAL A FUCKING CAR

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
10/27/22 2:30:57 PM
#100:


They were old enough to know better, hell when I was that age I knew not to do dumb shit like that and stopped being friends with the ones who liked doing bad things. One idiot stole a car with 2 others, crashed and is crippled for life, he is a burger king manager with 3 children cause his stupid ass did not use a condom preferring the pull out technique. He hates his life and despises his own children, 2 of them are from a woman who split town after leaving them with him over a weekend.

He ruined his life and I always shake my head when I think about how he kept wanting me to join him and the other two clowns.


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garan
10/27/22 3:10:56 PM
#102:


Solid_Sonic posted...
Shut down TikTok.
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The_Wheelman1
10/27/22 3:14:14 PM
#103:


14 is old enough to know right from wrong unless they have bad parents that never taught them. In most situations not all but teens are just as aware of what they do as an adult. They are young and still learning but they are not stupid.

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