Current Events > New York State is experiencing a population exodus.

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SrRd_RacinG
10/23/22 1:45:20 PM
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Nobody likes it here anymore I guess.

No other state is bleeding out people more than New York.

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Irony
10/23/22 1:46:37 PM
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Ok

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Shabriri
10/23/22 1:49:21 PM
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Yup. All my friends are gettin the hell outta here. I got out for a while but circumstances kinda brought me back home. It sucks, it's prohibitively expensive

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FLAMING_EVIL_HOMER
10/23/22 1:50:28 PM
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Can you blame them?


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CADE_FOSTER
10/23/22 1:59:01 PM
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Good tbh it has what 8 million and has a capacity for what 2 million
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whitelytning
10/23/22 1:59:35 PM
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I left years ago and dont regret it. Friends from my home town (NYC suburb) are paying the cost of my entire mortgage payment just for their property taxes for similar sized houses and its not like I live in the middle of nowhere now. Its insane and there isnt a good solution as tax revenue is going to be a problem.

The weather sucks, everything is overpriced and over regulated.

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JuanCarlos1
10/23/22 2:02:03 PM
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Tourism doesnt even feel family friendly with all the people selling weed in times square.

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CADE_FOSTER
10/23/22 2:05:16 PM
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I mean legalized weed needs to happen but it should be in store fronts not in trucks or on the street
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DoesntMatter
10/23/22 2:06:09 PM
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i guess people just can't afford $4000/mo studio apartments, gee who'd a thunk

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ElatedVenusaur
10/23/22 2:07:29 PM
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Nobody can afford to live in NYC, and none of the other cities are cheap either.
The average person is increasingly priced out of living in urban centers.

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Shabriri
10/23/22 2:08:20 PM
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yeah that goes for Long Island too. it is getting absolutely insane here. I really really wish I was a techy sort of brain so I could at least make enough money to get a freakin ROOM

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SiO4
10/23/22 2:17:32 PM
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ITT Only NYC is NYS.

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JuanCarlos1
10/23/22 2:18:42 PM
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CADE_FOSTER posted...
I mean legalized weed needs to happen but it should be in store fronts not in trucks or on the street

Oh I agree. Just that last time it left a bad taste in my mouth. Now Im going back with my child and Im a not a fan of him being exposed to that smell.

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DaddyPipeLayer
10/23/22 2:56:35 PM
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I'm from Brooklyn. I moved out to western NY years ago and haven't looked back. I pay $1100 for 900 sq ft apartment

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Michael_Booth
10/23/22 2:59:25 PM
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No one goes to New York City anymore, it's too busy.
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Prismsblade
10/23/22 3:09:28 PM
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Do they have to leave the state entirely for affordable housing?


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Shabriri
10/23/22 3:10:17 PM
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Prismsblade posted...
Do they have to leave the state entirely for affordable housing?
nah, state's huge. if i were a ton of places out west or upstste, I'd be doin just fine

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MedeaLysistrata
10/23/22 9:53:58 PM
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Shabriri posted...
nah, state's huge. if i were a ton of places out west or upstste, I'd be doin just fine


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thx1138
10/23/22 9:55:41 PM
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Too expensive and too many laws

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BakiHanma462
10/23/22 9:56:49 PM
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Arent they getting lots of refugees though?

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SrRd_RacinG
10/23/22 9:57:37 PM
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SiO4
10/24/22 12:59:06 AM
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SrRd_RacinG posted...


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Keep trying.

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Mia_K97
10/24/22 1:02:00 AM
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I heard living in NYC is a waste of money unless you live in Manhattan
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WilliamPorygon
10/24/22 1:08:40 AM
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As a resident of the finger lakes region I would love to get the fuck out if I had the means to do so and a better place to go.

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Ikzai
10/24/22 1:08:58 AM
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whitelytning posted...
I left years ago and dont regret it. Friends from my home town (NYC suburb) are paying the cost of my entire mortgage payment just for their property taxes for similar sized houses and its not like I live in the middle of nowhere now. Its insane and there isnt a good solution as tax revenue is going to be a problem.

The weather sucks, everything is overpriced and over regulated.

seems like there's a lot of corruption and good luck fixing that.

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Hoodroar
10/24/22 1:11:21 AM
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Good, maybe the property values will drop.

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The_Critic
10/24/22 1:46:35 AM
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NY seems like it has high property taxes
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2Pacavelli
10/24/22 3:31:32 AM
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Too expensive, no one wants to live in a 400 SQ foot box for $3000 a month. Or live with 3 roommates while paying $2000 plus to live in a bedroom. Or have to live in the "hood" for $2500+ just to be able to live on their own in a one bedroom apartment

Mia_K97 posted...
I heard living in NYC is a waste of money unless you live in Manhattan

I'd say its a bigger waste living in Manhattan than not, unless you found a great deal
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KnightofShikari
10/24/22 3:45:41 AM
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no source? ok

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BlingBling22947
10/24/22 4:30:12 AM
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shit happens

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jayj350
10/24/22 5:40:07 AM
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KnightofShikari posted...
no source? ok

You know, there's this thing called google...

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KnightofShikari
10/24/22 6:16:32 AM
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jayj350 posted...
You know, there's this thing called google...
i ain't doing TC's work for them. if they got nothing to back them up that means nothing they say means anything

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jayj350
10/24/22 6:47:53 AM
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KnightofShikari posted...
i ain't doing TC's work for them. if they got nothing to back them up that means nothing they say means anything

Lol okay buddy

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Crimson_Corsair
10/24/22 7:26:52 AM
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KnightofShikari posted...
i ain't doing TC's work for them. if they got nothing to back them up that means nothing they say means anything
Lmao, this coming from a guy who happily reacts to fucking Twitter headlines without researching anything. Never change CE.

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BaphometFlux
10/24/22 7:32:57 AM
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Not surprised I lived in NY for a few years and it sucked.

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KnightofShikari
10/24/22 7:54:55 AM
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Crimson_Corsair posted...
Lmao, this coming from a guy who happily reacts to fucking Twitter headlines without researching anything. Never change CE.
huh, no source again. interesting

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Makeveli_lives
10/24/22 8:04:01 AM
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Rent astronomical in New York now, its not surprising.

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Dat_Cracka_Jax
10/24/22 8:04:42 AM
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jayj350 posted...
You know, there's this thing called google...
Who's alt?

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K181
10/24/22 8:06:53 AM
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Got any proof? New York City and State both experienced population growth between the 2010 and 2020 censuses. The trend could've obviously changed in the last two years, but proof of an exodus that isn't anectodal would be swell.

Even Illinois gained population between the two censuses after corrections that the Census Department admitted to as being accurate were taken into account.

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Makeveli_lives
10/24/22 8:31:47 AM
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K181 posted...
Got any proof? New York City and State both experienced population growth between the 2010 and 2020 censuses. The trend could've obviously changed in the last two years, but proof of an exodus that isn't anectodal would be swell.

Even Illinois gained population between the two censuses after corrections that the Census Department admitted to as being accurate were taken into account.
Have you seen the average rent increase? Thats proof enough.

https://citylimits.org/2022/09/13/its-not-just-manhattan-rents-are-still-rising-across-nyc/

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K181
10/24/22 8:34:24 AM
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Makeveli_lives posted...
Have you seen the average rent increase? Thats proof enough.

https://citylimits.org/2022/09/13/its-not-just-manhattan-rents-are-still-rising-across-nyc/

That's proof of rent being higher, which could result in people moving out by being priced out. But proof that either NYC or NYS losing population hasn't been posted yet.

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KnightofShikari
10/24/22 8:42:34 AM
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K181 posted...
That's proof of rent being higher, which could result in people moving out by being priced out. But proof that either NYC or NYS losing population hasn't been posted yet.
don't forget that TC also said NYS is losing more population than any other state, and still no source

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archedsoul
10/24/22 9:17:06 AM
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Yeah, it's not really a secret. It's skyrocketed just in the past 5 years. Queens, Brooklyn, Bronx and Staten Island were all very affordable not that long ago. Then it just kept skyrocketing. Between that and loads of other issues like insane property taxes, lots here are leaving for places like Texas, Florida, Georgia and Michigan.

Like I've mentioned before, the rest of NY is kind of barren and empty (sorry SiO4 lol) and any worthwhile areas are not that much cheaper than NYC. Not anymore though they used to be. Certainly not worth uprooting and leaving behind the benefits of Downstate.

TC is probably referring to this.

https://on.mktw.net/3VQFd3f

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ALIEN_WORK2HOP
10/24/22 9:19:39 AM
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I can understand why people wouldn't want to live in NYC and I can def understand why people wouldn't want to live upstate.

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ClockworkHare
10/24/22 9:20:18 AM
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New York State is experiencing a population exodus.

That seems to be the goal of the people who own and govern the city's properties, yes.

Just because investors and politicians claim to "care" doesn't mean they're actually distraught about the struggles of John and Jane Q. Public (otherwise known as disposable cattle).

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SimulationSwarm
10/24/22 9:21:33 AM
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Id much rather live in NY than here in Florida lmao
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PoopPotato
10/24/22 9:26:52 AM
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Outside of NYC, the state is beautiful.
Voting is frustrating because NYC gets to decide what happens for the entire state.
It's stupid expensive to live up here as well.

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bigblu89
10/24/22 10:05:56 AM
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archedsoul posted...
TC is probably referring to this.

https://on.mktw.net/3VQFd3f

So people researching the cost of moving = leaving the state?

I've researched the cost of moving out of NYS at least a dozen times over the last 5 years, and haven't left yet, and probably won't for at least another 5 years.

Post actual numbers, or else the conclusion is anecdotal.

That's like saying someone bought a new car because they researched how much their insurance would go up IF they bought a new car.

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