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Incurso91
10/20/22 12:40:11 PM
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We're heading towards an increasingly dark timeline. I don't really understand why Republicans are acting this way over things that should not matter to them in the slightest.
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Tmaster148
10/20/22 12:41:35 PM
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Incurso91 posted...
We're heading towards an increasingly dark timeline. I don't really understand why Republicans are acting this way over things that should not matter to them in the slightest.

Because they want to enforce fascism.

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Shabriri
10/20/22 12:42:00 PM
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legendary_zell posted...
This is legit Nazi shit. They end up doing everything the so called "alarmists" say they'll do, and with increasing speed lately.

I'll be forced to regard anyone who doesn't recognize the threat and spouts "that's alarmist" as dangerously naive or willfully ignorant, if not actively malicious.
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IfGodCouldDie
10/20/22 12:54:49 PM
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Aridi posted...
I seriously don't understand the whole "GOP is for the children" when every school shooting sees them turn a blind eye to dead children right in their own neighborhood.
You don't understand hypocrisy?

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Southernfatman
10/20/22 12:56:24 PM
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They're Nazis, and Democrats, the DOJ, and us American citizens who aren't Nazis need to do something to stop these monsters before it's too late. Don't be surprised when the concentration camps start popping up.

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Humble_Novice
10/20/22 1:06:52 PM
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Southernfatman posted...
They're Nazis, and Democrats, the DOJ, and us American citizens who aren't Nazis need to do something to stop these monsters before it's too late. Don't be surprised when the concentration camps start popping up.
This is where the second amendment comes in. Democratic voters need to arm themselves in the event that the worst case scenario happens.
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Strider102
10/20/22 1:10:05 PM
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Humble_Novice posted...
This is where the second amendment comes in. Democratic voters need to arm themselves in the event that the worst case scenario happens.

Worst case scenario will probably happen in 2024 when a Republican gets elected.


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CRON
10/20/22 1:12:06 PM
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Incurso91 posted...
We're heading towards an increasingly dark timeline. I don't really understand why Republicans are acting this way over things that should not matter to them in the slightest.
Blame smartphones becoming affordable. It opened the floodgates for millions of uneducated and media-illiterate people blindly giving into misinformation campaigns because in their minds, if it's "on the computer" it has to be true.

The world would have been so much better off if smartphones remained business-oriented luxury items.
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IfGodCouldDie
10/20/22 1:19:52 PM
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CRON posted...
Blame smartphones becoming affordable. It opened the floodgates for millions of uneducated and media-illiterate people blindly giving into misinformation campaigns because in their minds, if it's "on the computer" it has to be true.

The world would have been so much better off if smartphones remained business-oriented luxury items.
I didn't realize Germans had smartphones in the 1930's or that medieval peasants had smartphones in the dark ages. This kind of bullshit has routinely happened in human history, don't be a technophobe. If anything smartphones and world wide access to the internet has made it easier to prepare and fight this kind of bullshit because it can constantly be called out and fought against.

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mybbqrules
10/20/22 1:46:01 PM
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But he held their flag upside down once! *rolls eyes*

Absolutely disgusting, hateful rhetoric being pushed by the disgusting, hateful party.

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CRON
10/20/22 2:52:54 PM
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IfGodCouldDie posted...
This kind of bullshit has routinely happened in human history, don't be a technophobe. If anything smartphones and world wide access to the internet has made it easier to prepare and fight this kind of bullshit because it can constantly be called out and fought against.
I understand where you're coming from but the analogies you alluded to just don't make sense.

This is more the abstract equivalent of giving every single American the means of producing and disseminating their own unregulated radio broadcasts in the early 20th century, or giving them the means of producing and disseminating their own unregulated television content in the mid-late 20th century.

At the very least, social media platforms need to be regulated.
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FigureOfSpeech
10/20/22 2:54:57 PM
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Unsuprised_Pika posted...
Voting for Republicans is literally voting for genocide.


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ElatedVenusaur
10/20/22 3:21:17 PM
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Just a reminder we were debating banning a dozen trans girls from school sports less than a year ago, and that was always a wedge to gin up transphobia and support for more punitive measures against trans people.

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Trumpo
10/20/22 3:28:36 PM
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21st century Nazism by political party

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HylianFox
10/20/22 3:30:44 PM
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Wouldn't it be easier to just ban children.

What the hell are they gonna do? They're just kids. They won't be able to fight back.

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DespondentDeity
10/20/22 3:37:16 PM
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HylianFox posted...
Wouldn't it be easier to just ban children.

What the hell are they gonna do? They're just kids. They won't be able to fight back.

The boldness of their evil comes from the fact that trans people as a whole cant really fight back either.

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Unknown480
10/20/22 3:39:34 PM
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Then they'll go after homosexuals, then people of color, interracial marriage and yea, it's only going to get worse with these sub human trash in power.
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Crimsoness
10/20/22 3:40:25 PM
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This your party @Dan_Haren- ?
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Strider102
10/20/22 3:58:29 PM
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Unknown480 posted...
Then they'll go after homosexuals, then people of color, interracial marriage and yea, it's only going to get worse with these sub human trash in power.

Didn't they open the door to that a few months ago?

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ElatedVenusaur
10/20/22 4:01:56 PM
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Strider102 posted...
Didn't they open the door to that a few months ago?
Trans people are a minority of drag performers...

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Kloe_Rinz
10/20/22 4:09:04 PM
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I thought there was supposed to be a lot of non-hateful republican beliefs? Thats what the republicans on this website say
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Umbreon
10/20/22 4:20:53 PM
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Strider102 posted...
Didn't they open the door to that a few months ago?


Yep.

People insisted it won't happen of course. "They'll never go after interracial marriage because one of the judges is in one!"


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_Krave_
10/20/22 4:28:56 PM
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I always try to think to myself, this is the kind of thing that wouldn't matter in an apocalyptic world.

Like, if the bombs start going off, this stuff simply will not matter after the wars and rebuilding happen.

But that's not really here nor there.

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CADE_FOSTER
10/20/22 4:44:10 PM
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the alt right always downplay fascism
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thronedfire2
10/20/22 4:46:01 PM
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Umbreon posted...
We're not allowed to call these people Nazis.

Which is weird, cause they keep doing very Nazi like things.

they're not Nazis yet, they just talk about and want to do the things the Nazis did. Apparently it's an important distinction

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Heineken14
10/20/22 7:49:19 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...


they're not Nazis yet, they just talk about and want to do the things the Nazis did. Apparently it's an important distinction


Yeah, those people can go fuck themselves.

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gunplagirl
10/20/22 10:55:21 PM
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Yep. The fact that neolibs have allowed comservatives to openly espouse their bigotry and made up fantasies and treat it as open discussion is just... Or the fact that for years now, trans people have been saying "these bigots are coming for our rights and they'll come for you as well" and we were told we were overreacting or that we were pushing away allies, all the while neolibs were totally fine negotiating our rights away... There's more than a few laws I can think of that were like "yes, we're a democrat majority state but because the 30% Republicans in the state senate disagree with this provision ensuring trans people can't be fired for being trans, well, let's scrap that since its unpopular" when they didn't even have to negotiate. Giving conservatives all that stuff for free. Or Republicans trying to pass things like "bill to give a bunch of funding to all these corporations and a few hundred thousand for this think tank that is writing up policies to arrest women for murder if they miscarry and are found to have done anything that contributed to it, and also ban trans people from bathrooms" and democrats in state politics managed to get the think tank funding out that time around but let everything else pass without even saying anything. :/ Like. When you allow anyone to negotiate the rights of a group away, and especially one that isn't even represented in the negotiations? That's just fascism on both ends of the discussion.

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ElatedVenusaur
10/21/22 12:14:52 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
Yep. The fact that neolibs have allowed comservatives to openly espouse their bigotry and made up fantasies and treat it as open discussion is just... Or the fact that for years now, trans people have been saying "these bigots are coming for our rights and they'll come for you as well" and we were told we were overreacting or that we were pushing away allies, all the while neolibs were totally fine negotiating our rights away... There's more than a few laws I can think of that were like "yes, we're a democrat majority state but because the 30% Republicans in the state senate disagree with this provision ensuring trans people can't be fired for being trans, well, let's scrap that since its unpopular" when they didn't even have to negotiate. Giving conservatives all that stuff for free. Or Republicans trying to pass things like "bill to give a bunch of funding to all these corporations and a few hundred thousand for this think tank that is writing up policies to arrest women for murder if they miscarry and are found to have done anything that contributed to it, and also ban trans people from bathrooms" and democrats in state politics managed to get the think tank funding out that time around but let everything else pass without even saying anything. :/ Like. When you allow anyone to negotiate the rights of a group away, and especially one that isn't even represented in the negotiations? That's just fascism on both ends of the discussion.

Yeah, I think the most upsetting part about the conversation is that we, fundamentally, are not allowed in the conversation! Even putative allies often seem as though they would rather not have our input, as those we are incapable of representing ourselves.

Like, literally John Stewart and John Oliver and a few other cis men are getting praised for essentially presenting the very same arguments we make all the time. Though the latter at least made it in part by citing specific trans people in the segment, it seems. It's just incredibly frustrating.

Like, I was talking about my experience with getting Husky to cover laser hair removal in class earlier and how they now require you to get letters (note the plural) from Psych Ds for literally everything beyond HRT which is darkly hilarious, because HRT is way more impactful than laser and they do that via informed consent and even the professor, who is a practicing clinician (and all around leftist dude) with a doctorate degree in Social Work didn't know about that.
This is in Connecticut. And Husky doesn't reimburse, so good luck finding a dermatologist who stoops to doing laser! And fuck you if you have light hair, because you can count the number of electrologists Husky will pay for in the entire state on one hand and have fingers left over.

I'm ranting at this point, but the point is that CT has a great reputation for trans rights and trans care, and they still really don't seem to want to actually, like...pay for it.

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gunplagirl
10/21/22 12:23:01 AM
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Yep. Trans person who has been transitioning for a decade? Still gonna need letters from two psychiatrists to get a boob job. But a 17 year old cis girl can get one with parental authorization, and can get one scheduled the day she turns 18 without any other qualifications besides paying for it.

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Ikzai
10/21/22 12:24:54 AM
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I wonder what the GOP gets by dating fascism. Surely it will be defeated given enough time.

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Umbreon
10/21/22 12:33:52 AM
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I wish I could give the two of you a hug. What trans people go through isn't right or fair. It's frustrating to see who otherwise claim to be for human rights to suddenly be okay with throwing trans people under the bus because "it's unpopular" to fight for their rights. Ending slavery was unpopular too, we had a goddamn war because of that.

It's bullshit and I wish I could do more besides vote and hope enough people do the right thing.

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gunplagirl
10/21/22 12:34:38 AM
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Ikzai posted...
I wonder what the GOP gets by dating fascism. Surely it will be defeated given enough time.
They don't think that they'll be defeated like other prominent fascist groups in history.

And even if they do get stopped, they will have a death toll.

By all rights, we could have probably trampled out their ideology or at least severely halted the rate at which it bloomed if neolibs hadn't tolerated them openly espousing their views and if we'd managed to elect Clinton in 2016. Trump WAS the right's grieving death knell, their last ditch effort to stay relevant instead of having to maybe adjust and tone it down in modern times. But nope, the fascists won and ramped up the ideology very quickly. The fact that Trump had a scandal or said a racist thing or whatever basically every day to inundate us with so much horrible stuff to the point it made many people numb to such news? That was a great bonus for them. Because nobody could keep up with it all, and because basically none of it was ever punished, just... *sigh*

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Ikzai
10/21/22 12:37:28 AM
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It feels like nothing matters anymore? Just have a republican by your name and your all good. You can do whatever the hell you want. It makes me wonder why Democrats aren't running as republicans to try and change the game. Maybe that's insane.

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Umbreon
10/21/22 12:44:08 AM
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Ikzai posted...
It feels like nothing matters anymore? Just have a republican by your name and your all good. You can do whatever the hell you want. It makes me wonder why Democrats aren't running as republicans to try and change the game. Maybe that's insane.


You can't change evil from within. Just look at what happens when a cop tries to hold one of their own responsible for their actions.

People are just too inclined to do nothing, because being nice (Not to be mistaken with being good) and quiet about things is the status quo.

And why not? Most of the people who do so don't have to worry. A church keeping quiet over a pastor raping kids? A school looking the other way over severe bullying. It's never your problem so long as you aren't personally harmed by it!

Too bad some people don't get the luxury of ignoring evil.


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gunplagirl
10/21/22 12:46:02 AM
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Umbreon posted...
Too bad some people don't get the luxury of ignoring evil.
Indeed. It just sucks because we knew this was coming years before Trump and here we are, post Jan. 6th and people will vote Republican thinking it will fix the economy.

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gunplagirl
10/21/22 1:32:19 AM
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Just look at Rowling and other TERFs. When Graham Norton or whatever said that celebrities shouldn't be the ones talking about trans issues, that we should let trans people speak for ourselves? He got attacked for somehow condoning rape and sexual assault and all the threats that Rowling alleges she receives. He's a gay man and was also accused of homophobia. Meanwhile Rowling is a cis hetero woman who unironically and uncritically pens her hate filled diatribes under an extremely male pen name.

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iPhone_7
10/21/22 2:32:44 AM
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But both parties are pretty much the same! Whichever party is in power doesnt really matter!

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GrandConjuraton
10/21/22 3:05:42 AM
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And people on this very board would still say we're overreacting after seeing this...

Being trans is basically being a leper in their eyes, and it's both depressing and frightening. We'll end up in concentration camps at some point if this bigotry isn't put down once and for all.

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gunplagirl
10/21/22 3:09:28 AM
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GrandConjuraton posted...
And people on this very board would still say we're overreacting after seeing this...

Being trans is basically being a leper in their eyes, and it's both depressing and frightening. We'll end up in concentration camps at some point if this bigotry isn't put down once and for all.
Or else, with being trans being considered being sexual it will lead to people being able to attack or even kill us as simply being trans will be legally considered similar to sexual assault and then people who kill us can claim self defense and get off without any charges. We all know that there's no shortage of conservatives who have voiced that they want us to be killed. Usually "because of God" but not always.

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Kakapo
10/21/22 3:12:54 AM
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Ikzai posted...
I wonder what the GOP gets by dating fascism. Surely it will be defeated given enough time.
Millions of people died before the rise of fascism was halted last time.

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ElatedVenusaur
10/21/22 7:18:31 AM
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Kakapo posted...
Millions of people died before the rise of fascism was halted last time.
And, while comparisons to Weimar Germany are in vogue right now, its important to remember that the Nazis were enabled by the traditional conservatives and even centrists. But also that the Republican Party is just straight up fascist at this point and can win without ever getting a majority of the vote.

Honestly, IMO, that was always going to happen. Trump winning in large part due to the sheer incompetence of Hillarys campaign and the malfeasance of our media merely accelerated it in a very dangerous way. Neoliberalism was never going to extinguish this though: its consistent failure to improve peoples lives helps fuel the sense of grievance that powers fascism.

I mean, LOL, Obama was just in the news griping about wokeness and what kinds of issues are woke? Well, trans people, for one!

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mybbqrules
10/21/22 12:14:33 PM
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