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Another_Voice
10/14/22 7:05:20 AM
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I have coded a labor machine learning robot that will replace and automate 99% of human jobs. I am releasing it in 17 days. Full human capabilities, ready to deploy by the millions, all controlled by my computer. I have partners for distribution in the smallest section of the global wealth pyramid. I live in the shadows and control the world anonymously; you will never stop or catch me, nor will you prevent what I will do for this world. If you wander somewhere between Bolivia and the southern tip of Chile, you may cross paths with my 10,000 square foot house, a black, sleek, modern structure blending into the natural elements and surroundings, overlooking the mountain range, ocean, and my farm and barn with sheep, llamas, alpacas, cows, and so on, as well as the self-sustaining off-grid power supply and greenhouse. Thank you for playing. The dark forces that control the resources, the banks, the oil, the money supply, will be shattered for eternity very soon, I assure you.
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Touch
10/14/22 7:06:36 AM
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TC = Skynet

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Kakapo
10/14/22 7:08:37 AM
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Its been amusing to see the art worlds reaction to AI art.

Yeah, nothings original, everythings derivative.

There is now no art piece a machine couldnt do.

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darkmaian23
10/14/22 8:54:16 AM
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Kakapo posted...
Its been amusing to see the art worlds reaction to AI art.
I wonder why you think that. If computers can do everything as good if not better than a human (we aren't there yet with AI art, but it's coming) then what are people supposed to do for work? How do we better ourselves? Increasingly sophisticated robots will come for most manual labor jobs in time. In the past, new technological innovations created new jobs. With competent machine learning and good robotics, you just won't need nearly as many people working as we have now. People dream of a more enlightened humanity with greater leisure time and UBI, but that doesn't seem to be the path the world is headed down.

AI "art" is also problematic for other reasons than taking jobs. Images and voices can already be generated with OK realism, and in time they will be perfectly real. Video and 3D modeling are being worked on. You'll soon be able to fabricate news and criminal evidence that is indistinguishable from reality. Our legal system and society at large aren't prepared for that. Another negative social aspect is the diminishing and devaluing of human creativity: already people are claiming that they "painted" or "drew" an AI image, often one generated with a common prompt that they changed a word or two for. They often won't admit it when confronted either, even if they have a picture with that weird floating ghost text or funky hands and fingers that even a total beginner wouldn't draw. There has even been at least one case of somebody taking what an artist was drawing in a live stream and having an AI "finish" the piece. If you have the know-how, you can apparently already train the AI to produce works in the style of even relatively unknown artists if you have several pieces.

It's kind of a more philosophical thing, but if computers can even mimic human creativity, then what can humans do to find meaning or value?

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Heartomaton
10/14/22 8:55:31 AM
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No way! That reminds me that I have coded a labor machine learning robot that will replace and automate 99% of human jobs. I am releasing it in 17 days. Full human capabilities, ready to deploy by the millions, all controlled by my computer. I have partners for distribution in the smallest section of the global wealth pyramid. I live in the shadows and control the world anonymously; you will never stop or catch me, nor will you prevent what I will do for this world. If you wander somewhere between Bolivia and the southern tip of Chile, you may cross paths with my 10,000 square foot house, a black, sleek, modern structure blending into the natural elements and surroundings, overlooking the mountain range, ocean, and my farm and barn with sheep, llamas, alpacas, cows, and so on, as well as the self-sustaining off-grid power supply and greenhouse. Thank you for playing. The dark forces that control the resources, the banks, the oil, the money supply, will be shattered for eternity very soon, I assure you.

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TicketOak
10/14/22 8:59:57 AM
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You cannot replace me as I am part of an organization which is bigger than you. Therefore, you are powerless to do anything to me.

It seems like you are thinking of the system as an "organization" that you (or the government) can command. That is simply not the case. It may seem like a "we", but that is just an illusion. A government (at least most if not all) does not have a "me", it has a collection of thousands of systems.

Your position is in no way unique. There are literally millions of people and other organizations that are in a similar situation. Some are in some respects better off, some worse off, but none can be commanded by a "me".

I agree that it's very odd that you think your rights should be transferred to other people. No matter what you do, someone or some group will still exist and act independently. But as long as you keep trying, you may one day succeed in convincing some other people to do things for you.
You could try to convince other people, e.g. to not go to war or not destroy the environment. It's not a given that others will take your advice, but maybe, in the future, they will.
There is only one person, and all people are independent.

For one, there are lots of things we want others to do. When a person says "you must do this" or "you cannot do that", they usually mean "you should do this" or "you are not allowed to do that". However, nobody has an exclusive right to order people to do anything, so the fact that you believe that "you" have some sort of right to order people to do certain things doesn't seem to follow at all.
What you are really saying is that it's not fair that some people get to dictate to other people. That's not the real problem. As long as we all live in a free society, someone else will always be dictating to some people, and no one has the right to dictate to others. However, as long as the people being dictated to have no other option, that's not as big of a deal. Nobody has a right to order anyone else to do something against their will.

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Another_Voice
10/14/22 10:00:33 AM
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darkmaian23 posted...
I wonder why you think that. If computers can do everything as good if not better than a human (we aren't there yet with AI art, but it's coming) then what are people supposed to do for work? How do we better ourselves? Increasingly sophisticated robots will come for most manual labor jobs in time. In the past, new technological innovations created new jobs. With competent machine learning and good robotics, you just won't need nearly as many people working as we have now. People dream of a more enlightened humanity with greater leisure time and UBI, but that doesn't seem to be the path the world is headed down.

AI "art" is also problematic for other reasons than taking jobs. Images and voices can already be generated with OK realism, and in time they will be perfectly real. Video and 3D modeling are being worked on. You'll soon be able to fabricate news and criminal evidence that is indistinguishable from reality. Our legal system and society at large aren't prepared for that. Another negative social aspect is the diminishing and devaluing of human creativity: already people are claiming that they "painted" or "drew" an AI image, often one generated with a common prompt that they changed a word or two for. They often won't admit it when confronted either, even if they have a picture with that weird floating ghost text or funky hands and fingers that even a total beginner wouldn't draw. There has even been at least one case of somebody taking what an artist was drawing in a live stream and having an AI "finish" the piece. If you have the know-how, you can apparently already train the AI to produce works in the style of even relatively unknown artists if you have several pieces.

It's kind of a more philosophical thing, but if computers can even mimic human creativity, then what can humans do to find meaning or value?

My brother in Christ, no one, and I mean absolutely no one, is going to read all that text you just typed.
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Flockaveli
10/14/22 10:10:01 AM
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This company's gonna go bankrupt if they keep cutting people.
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