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ZMythos
10/12/22 6:37:12 PM
#104:


bknight posted...
Now just need my pillow guy to lose his billion dollar lawsuit and we'll go 2/2.
Then we need Newsmax to get sued. And OAN. And FOX.

On second thought, let's just skip the suits and jail these motherfuckers

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Tyranthraxus
10/12/22 6:37:33 PM
#105:


Prestoff posted...
No it isn't. Context is key here and why he is being sued for defamation and why he was found guilty of it. You can't be sued for defamation and be found guilty for having an opinion unless it was stated as fact.
You also can't be sued if you genuinely believed what you were saying.

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Bad_Mojo
10/12/22 6:41:39 PM
#106:


Tyranthraxus posted...
You also can't be sued if you genuinely believed what you were saying.

So I guess that shows that he did know he was lying then, huh? Since he got sued and lost?

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Harp_of_Ages
10/12/22 6:44:15 PM
#107:


Bad_Mojo posted...
How many alts do you have?
I'm not who you think I am? Idek who you think I might be but I rarely post here on main even so

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ZangsBeard
10/12/22 6:46:41 PM
#108:


ZMythos posted...
Then we need Newsmax to get sued. And OAN. And FOX.

Dominion is currently suing them all...

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Tyranthraxus
10/12/22 6:48:09 PM
#109:


Bad_Mojo posted...
So I guess that shows that he did know he was lying then, huh? Since he got sued and lost?
Yes.

The bar for defamation is:

  1. Actual malice (in legal terms this means you know it's false and you did it to hurt someone)
  2. The statement has the possibility to harm someone's reputation (lying about what some dude ate for breakfast isn't going to hold anyone culpable unless you're saying they ate human infants or something)
  3. The statement can be interpreted as fact (saying that someone is always on Santa's naughty list also isn't going to have culpability)
  4. The statement actually caused harm to the target.


This is why the Tucker Carlson "no reasonable person would believe what he says" argument got famous. Alex Jones tried it as well but it didn't work out for him.

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Bad_Mojo
10/12/22 6:48:46 PM
#110:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Yes.

The bar for defamation is:

1. Actual malice (in legal terms this means you know it's false and you did it to hurt someone)
2. The statement has the possibility to harm someone's reputation (lying about what some dude ate for breakfast isn't going to hold anyone culpable unless you're saying they ate human infants or something)
3. The statement can be interpreted as fact (saying that someone is always on Santa's naughty list also isn't going to have culpability)
4. The statement actually caused harm to the target.

This is why the Tucker Carlson "no reasonable person would believe what he says" argument got famous. Alex Jones tried it as well but it didn't work out for him.


Thank you

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IMNOTRAGED
10/12/22 6:53:55 PM
#111:


Bad_Mojo posted...
So I guess that shows that he did know he was lying then, huh? Since he got sued and lost?

He lost by default because he didn't comply with the process of discovery for two years. The recent trials were to determine how much he owes

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KainWind
10/12/22 7:04:43 PM
#112:


Wow double patriot points?!?!? Sign me up!

Also I just realized I never knew what he looked like until now.

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CADE_FOSTER
10/12/22 7:44:44 PM
#113:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-YHmIogDhc

just listen to him he is batshit insane
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Scorsese2002
10/12/22 9:46:13 PM
#114:


Tad excessive

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CADE_FOSTER
10/12/22 9:49:29 PM
#115:


Scorsese2002 posted...
Tad excessive
no amount is excessive
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MrWingnut
10/12/22 9:53:09 PM
#116:


Scorsese2002 posted...
Tad excessive
No
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Compsognathus
10/12/22 9:59:09 PM
#117:


Scorsese2002 posted...
Tad excessive
Nah. Fuck him.

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Popcorn2000
10/12/22 9:59:49 PM
#118:


Fair
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IMNOTRAGED
10/12/22 10:08:24 PM
#119:


Scorsese2002 posted...
Tad excessive

Any amount that doesn't severely impact his ability to continue spreading harmful disinformation is useless.

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Smashingpmkns
10/12/22 10:11:05 PM
#120:


Alex Jones deserves a way worse punishment than what a modern justice system would ever give him.

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Irony
10/12/22 10:11:55 PM
#121:


Scorsese2002 posted...
Tad excessive
Shut the fuck up

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RudysBBQ
10/12/22 10:14:24 PM
#122:


One of the following is going to happen:

1. He's going to appeal and either get some dismissed and/or get some of the judgments significantly reduced; or

2. He's going to file for bankruptcy and get these judgments discharged; or

3. He's going to file for Chapter 13 bankruptcy reorganization, and the plaintiffs will get pennies on the dollar.

Either way, he's going to come out with even more die hard fans that will make him rich again, especially when Elon Musk unbans his Twitter account.
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Bishop9800
10/12/22 10:15:19 PM
#123:


Scorsese2002 posted...
Tad excessive

How?

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Malcrasternus
10/12/22 10:43:32 PM
#124:


Bishop9800 posted...
How?

My guess is, since I'm assuming this guy doesn't have a billion dollars sitting around, the families aren't going to see a penny of it. He then lays low for a couple years and essentially walks away with little to no actual punishment.

Though who knows, I didn't get a chance to see/read the full results, so maybe(hopefully) I'm wrong and he gets to actually face the consequences of his actions.

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ssj3vegeta
10/12/22 10:44:49 PM
#125:


i hope alex jones isn't da last one of dese conspiracy people who get in trouble to calling it a hoax, all dose others should get consequences as well tbh

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wanderingshade
10/12/22 10:47:24 PM
#126:


Malcrasternus posted...
My guess is, since I'm assuming this guy doesn't have a billion dollars sitting around, the families aren't going to see a penny of it. He then lays low for a couple years and essentially walks away with little to no actual punishment.

Though who knows, I didn't get a chance to see/read the full results, so maybe(hopefully) I'm wrong and he gets to actually face the consequences of his actions.

Well if this is any consolation.

https://twitter.com/richsignorelli/status/1580288940287807489

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CADE_FOSTER
10/12/22 10:48:51 PM
#127:


https://twitter.com/BrandyZadrozny/status/1580285490334310401
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Malcrasternus
10/12/22 10:49:51 PM
#128:


wanderingshade posted...
Well if this is any consolation.

That did put a smile on my face, yes.

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Kami_no_Kami
10/12/22 10:50:31 PM
#129:


Not enough imo.
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CE_gonna_CE
10/12/22 10:51:03 PM
#130:


Scorsese2002 posted...
Tad excessive
No

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CADE_FOSTER
10/12/22 10:51:40 PM
#131:


he def gonna be in prison because he isnt gonna pay
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RudysBBQ
10/12/22 10:52:31 PM
#132:


CADE_FOSTER posted...
he def gonna be in prison because he isnt gonna pay


lol he's not going to pay, because he's going to get these dismissed on appeal or in bankruptcy.
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Axiom
10/12/22 10:53:05 PM
#133:


Beautiful. Tucker next please
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CADE_FOSTER
10/12/22 10:53:30 PM
#134:


who posted oh a new troll
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Strider102
10/12/22 10:54:45 PM
#135:


Seeing a lot of Republicans in different places absolutely pissed off.

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Irony
10/12/22 11:17:03 PM
#136:


RudysBBQ posted...
lol he's not going to pay, because he's going to get these dismissed on appeal or in bankruptcy.
It's already been addressed that he can't get them tossed via bankruptcy

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Smashingpmkns
10/12/22 11:17:28 PM
#137:


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Arcanine2009
10/12/22 11:19:30 PM
#138:


950 million is a crazy amount though. This is like on the level of major corporate suing.

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Scorsese2002
10/13/22 1:45:30 AM
#140:


Irony posted...

Shut the fuck up

Negative

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12amMadman
10/13/22 3:07:30 AM
#141:


What even happens when the person can't afford to pay?

Also seems a bit much.

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pistachio12
10/13/22 3:15:54 AM
#142:


Scorsese2002 posted...
Negative

Wonder if you'll keep saying stupid shit then.

12amMadman posted...
What even happens when the person can't afford to pay?

Also seems a bit much.

Why is it too much?
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BearlyWilling
10/13/22 3:36:19 AM
#143:


Harp_of_Ages posted...
I mean he also probably thinks <thing> is an opinion and not a lie

wait bad mojo is that person?

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Scorsese2002
10/13/22 4:01:34 AM
#144:


pistachio12 posted...


Wonder if you'll keep saying stupid shit then.


Stupid to you maybe BUT if you want..the song We Built This Coty gets too much hate

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vegeta415
10/13/22 6:05:13 AM
#145:


Tyranthraxus posted...
They will definitely not touch this case. They will probably dismiss the appeal with prejudice.
its unbelievable that people like this exist
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SlickBandit
10/13/22 6:39:40 PM
#146:


Arcanine2009 posted...
950 million is a crazy amount though. This is like on the level of major corporate suing.

It is a crazy amount. It's also so unconstitutional, it violates the eighth amendment. It's not even an issue of defamation, since Jones did admit he wrong about the murders being a hoax.
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meestermj
10/13/22 6:40:51 PM
#147:


SlickBandit posted...
It is a crazy amount. It's also so unconstitutional, it violates the eighth amendment. It's not even an issue of defamation, since Jones did admit he wrong about the murders being a hoax.
Shut the fuck up with your garbage take.

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ZangsBeard
10/13/22 6:46:51 PM
#149:


SlickBandit posted...
It is a crazy amount. It's also so unconstitutional, it violates the eighth amendment. It's not even an issue of defamation, since Jones did admit he wrong about the murders being a hoax.

How to be wrong in literally every way.

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thronedfire2
10/13/22 6:46:57 PM
#150:


SlickBandit posted...
It is a crazy amount. It's also so unconstitutional, it violates the eighth amendment. It's not even an issue of defamation, since Jones did admit he wrong about the murders being a hoax.

yeah he did that about 10 years too late long after the damage was done

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LightningAce11
10/13/22 6:48:17 PM
#151:


Alex Jones has never been sorry for any of the garbage he peddled and people hes hurt. He deserves every bit of this and info wars needs to be shut down.

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meestermj
10/13/22 6:49:23 PM
#152:


SlickBandit posted...
Read eighth amendment moron.
You are 100% factually wrong.

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ZangsBeard
10/13/22 7:05:44 PM
#153:


meestermj posted...
You are 100% factually wrong.

Love how he's already resorted to debasing himself, rather than, you know, actually articulate how he feels the 8th amendment is being violated.

We all get a good laugh as he continues to defecate into his own socks and slam them against the wall while screaming we're all wrong though.

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CableZL
10/13/22 7:07:46 PM
#154:


Alex Jones committed an extraordinary amount of defamation, libel, and slander, so it makes sense to have an extraordinary fine to match that.

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Kami_no_Kami
10/13/22 7:15:21 PM
#155:


Its not even a fine.
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