Current Events > Bernie Sanders is completely correct About Saudi Arabia

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CADE_FOSTER
10/08/22 7:24:14 AM
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DarkChozoGhost
10/08/22 7:37:41 AM
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Yup

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PerkinsMiller
10/08/22 7:50:32 AM
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Does Bernard want Americans to pay $30 per gallon for gas or something?
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JuanCarlos1
10/08/22 7:50:46 AM
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The only reason we play buddies with Saudi Arabia is oil. Fuck that barbaric country

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Guns_of_Verdun
10/08/22 7:59:16 AM
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I mean he's right but:

JuanCarlos1 posted...
The only reason we play buddies with Saudi Arabia is oil.

This

We excuse everything Saudi Arabia does solely due to oil

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miki_sauvester
10/08/22 9:47:07 AM
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I agree with the Bern on this one.
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YeOld3DS
10/08/22 9:59:01 AM
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PerkinsMiller posted...
Does Bernard want Americans to pay $30 per gallon for gas or something?
If this happens Biden would be guaranteed to lose the election. People won't care *why* oil is that expensive, they'll only blame the President.
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Ricemills
10/08/22 10:04:18 AM
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huh, now I understand that silly anime quote of "just because you're right, doesn't mean it's correct."
it's applied here properly.

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kelemvor
10/08/22 10:05:58 AM
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PerkinsMiller posted...
Does Bernard want Americans to pay $30 per gallon for gas or something?

If only we had some kind of pipeline bringing heavy crude down from Canada.
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K181
10/08/22 10:06:05 AM
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As usual, its easier to speak your mind when out of power versus being in power. Bernie gets to get his brownie points by suggesting things thatd immediately backfire as were still dependent on Saudi oil for at least the next twenty years.

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gunplagirl
10/08/22 10:07:05 AM
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Don't worry, as soon as other methods seem financially viable enough to justify a swap the gas companies WILL buy them up and raise prices for consumers on things that already have a high profit margin because of just how much energy they can generate.

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K181
10/08/22 10:08:09 AM
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kelemvor posted...
If only we had some kind of pipeline bringing heavy crude down from Canada.

We do.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keystone_Pipeline

If you mean the Keystone Pipeline XL project, that wouldve taken years to complete and its purpose was to allow Canada to export oil to Asia with American refineries getting a cut of the profits. It wouldnt have had any impact on global oil supplies for years, and on American gas prices ever.

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kelemvor
10/08/22 10:14:03 AM
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K181 posted...
We do.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keystone_Pipeline

If you mean the Keystone Pipeline XL project, that wouldve taken years to complete and its purpose was to allow Canada to export oil to Asia with American refineries getting a cut of the profits. It wouldnt have had any impact on global oil supplies for years, and on American gas prices ever.

I was just making a flippant comment. Yes it was going to benefit Canada but it would of also benefited us too. Apparently I'm one of the few Libby libs who thought it was a bad idea to kill Keystone XL. The oil was going to get mines and refined anyway. More pipelines just makes a more efficient supply chain and yes it does affect prices.
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Antifar
10/08/22 10:15:04 AM
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The problem with basing a politics around cheap consumer goods is you always find yourself justifying atrocities.

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Jagr_68
10/08/22 10:16:46 AM
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Nation is too cheap and dumb to invest in alternative technologies and resources so we have to always remain China's and Saudi Arabia's bitch until the end of time.

But don't forget USA #1 Forever!!!

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RamboCell29
10/08/22 10:31:00 AM
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Brilliant! Let's have another middle east country hate us! Who cares if Oil tops 200 bucks per barrell...

Saudi Arabia is a crap country with a terrible humanitarian record but we are better off having them as a strategic partner in the region than not.

Biden may have done well galvanizing NATO and Western Europe, but his mideast policy has been subpar.


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Antifar
10/08/22 10:39:11 AM
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RamboCell29 posted...
Brilliant! Let's have another middle east country hate us! Who cares if Oil tops 200 bucks per barrell...
Here's the thing: they've been raising gas prices even as our ally. The thing that supposedly justifies turning a blind eye to their abuses is something they have chosen not to deliver. We let them face no punishment for the murder of a journalist, and they turned around and did this:
https://bit.ly/3yqbovY

But also, cheap gas is not worth abiding evil any more than cheap cotton was.

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CADE_FOSTER
10/08/22 11:10:03 AM
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Antifar posted...
Here's the thing: they've been raising gas prices even as our ally. The thing that supposedly justifies turning a blind eye to their abuses is something they have chosen not to deliver. We let them face no punishment for the murder of a journalist, and they turned around and did this:
https://bit.ly/3yqbovY

But also, cheap gas is not worth abiding evil any more than cheap cotton was.

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BlueTigerLion
10/08/22 11:15:44 AM
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Isnt the problem US government has been anti Oil so our own Oil companies dont try to expand their capabilities due to fear of being rugged pulled and the government shutdown their pipeline construction.


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DoesntMatter
10/08/22 11:36:36 AM
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this

we need to cut ties with all foreign sources of oil that are tied to countries with anti-humanitarian regimes, and focus on alternative energy source growth

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DoesntMatter
10/08/22 11:37:27 AM
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BlueTigerLion posted...
Isnt the problem US government has been anti Oil so our own Oil companies dont try to expand their capabilities due to fear of being rugged pulled and the government shutdown their pipeline construction.
damn, what kind of fever dream are you living in

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BlueTigerLion
10/08/22 11:44:31 AM
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I probably got my info on this from a bad source. A specific talking head was on in the background and he went on a rant.

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Scohen
10/08/22 11:45:05 AM
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CADE_FOSTER posted...
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broken clock, 2x a day, etc

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Popcorn2000
10/08/22 11:45:51 AM
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PerkinsMiller posted...
Does Bernard want Americans to pay $30 per gallon for gas or something?
We dont get gas from Saudi Arabia
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CADE_FOSTER
10/08/22 11:52:22 AM
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BlueTigerLion posted...
I probably got my info on this from a bad source. A specific talking head was on in the background and he went on a rant.
Yeah you fell for fake news I suggest you fix who you listen to
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PerkinsMiller
10/08/22 11:53:15 AM
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Popcorn2000 posted...

We dont get gas from Saudi Arabia


Saudi Arabia is the leader of OPEC:

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/opec-heads-deep-supply-cuts-clash-with-us-2022-10-04/

VIENNA/LONDON, Oct 5 (Reuters) - OPEC+ agreed steep oil production cuts on Wednesday, curbing supply in an already tight market, causing one of its biggest clashes with the West as the U.S. administration called the surprise decision shortsighted.

OPEC's de-facto leader Saudi Arabia said the cut of 2 million barrels per day (bpd) of output - equal to 2% of global supply - was necessary to respond to rising interest rates in the West and a weaker global economy.

The kingdom rebuffed criticism it was colluding with Russia, which is included in the OPEC+ group, to drive prices higher and said the West was often driven by "wealth arrogance" when criticising the group.

The White House said President Joe Biden would continue to assess whether to release further strategic oil stocks to lower prices.

"The President is disappointed by the shortsighted decision by OPEC+ to cut production quotas while the global economy is dealing with the continued negative impact of (Russian President Vladimir) Putins invasion of Ukraine," the White House said.

Biden faces low approval ratings ahead of mid-term elections due to soaring inflation and has called on Saudi Arabia, a long-term U.S. ally, to help lower prices.

U.S. officials have said part of the reason Washington wants lower oil prices is to deprive Moscow of oil revenue. Biden travelled to Riyadh this year but failed to secure any firm cooperation commitments on energy. Relations have been further strained as Saudi Arabia has not condemned Moscow's actions in Ukraine.

The cut in oil supplies decided in Vienna on Wednesday could spur a recovery in oil prices that have dropped to about $90 from $120 three months ago on fears of a global economic recession, rising U.S. interest rates and a stronger dollar.

Saudi Energy Minister Abdulaziz bin Salman said OPEC+ had needed to be pro-active as central banks around the world moved to "belatedly" tackle soaring inflation with higher interest rates.

Wednesday's production cuts of 2 million bpd are based on existing baseline figures, which means the cuts would be less deep because OPEC+ fell about 3.6 million barrels per day short of its output target in August.

Under-production happened because of Western sanctions on countries such as Russia, Venezuela and Iran and output problems with producers such as Nigeria and Angola.

Prince Abdulaziz said the real cuts would be 1.0-1.1 million bpd.

Analysts from Jefferies said they estimated the figure at 0.9 million bpd, while Goldman Sachs put it at 0.4-0.6 million bpd saying cuts would mainly come from Gulf OPEC producers such as Saudi Arabia, Iraq, the United Arab Emirates and Kuwait.

Benchmark Brent crude rose above $93 per barrel on Wednesday.

The West has accused Russia of weaponising energy, with soaring gas prices and a scramble to find alternatives creating a crisis in Europe that could trigger gas and power rationing this winter.

Moscow, meanwhile, accuses the West of weaponising the dollar and financial systems such as the international payments mechanism SWIFT in retaliation for Russia sending troops into Ukraine in February.

Russian Deputy Prime Minister Alexander Novak, who was put on the U.S. special designated nationals sanctions list last week, also travelled to Vienna to participate in meetings.

Novak is not under EU sanctions. He and other members of OPEC+ agreed to extend the cooperation deal with OPEC by another year to the end of 2023...
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BlueTigerLion
10/08/22 12:02:06 PM
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CADE_FOSTER posted...
Yeah you fell for fake news I suggest you fix who you listen to

It was Tucker Carlson. So despite me seeing his views once and no longer watch his views still gets out. Since for some reason he is most watched show. He claimed Biden was selling our Oil to China as well.

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CADE_FOSTER
10/08/22 12:20:34 PM
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lol wtf
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