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TaylorHeinicke
10/07/22 1:25:41 PM
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https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/10/07/1127017062/early-signs-a-new-u-s-covid-surge-could-be-on-its-way

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As the U.S. heads into a third pandemic winter, the first hints are emerging that another possible surge of COVID-19 infections could be on its way.

So far, no national surge has started yet. The number of people getting infected, hospitalized and dying from COVID in the U.S. has been gently declining from a fairly high plateau.

But as the weather cools and people start spending more time inside, where the virus spreads more easily, the risks of a resurgence increase.

The first hint of what could be in store is what's happening in Europe. Infections have been rising in many European countries, including the U.K., France, and Italy.

"In the past, what's happened in Europe often has been a harbinger for what's about to happen in the United States," says Michael Osterholm, director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota. "So I think the bottom line message for us in this country is: We have to be prepared for what they are beginning to see in Europe."

Several computer models are projecting that COVID infections will continue to recede at least through the end of the year. But researchers stress there are many uncertainties that could change that, such as as whether more infectious variants start to spread fast in the U.S.

In fact, scientists are watching a menagerie of new omicron subvariants that have emerged recently that appear to be even better at dodging immunity.

"We look around the world and see countries such as Germany and France are seeing increases as we speak," says Lauren Ancel Meyers, director of the UT COVID-19 Modeling Consortium at the University of Texas at Austin. "That gives me pause. It adds uncertainty about what we can expect in the coming weeks and the coming months."

However, it's not certain the U.S. experience will echo Europe's, says Justin Lessler, an epidemiologist at the University of North Carolina who helps run the COVID-19 Scenario Modeling Hub.
That's because it's not clear whether Europe's rising cases are related to people's greater susceptibility to new subvariants they've not yet been exposed to. In addition, different countries have different levels of immunity.

"If it is mostly just behavioral changes and climate, we might be able to avoid similar upticks if there is broad uptake of the bivalent vaccine," Lessler says. "If it is immune escape across several variants with convergent evolution, the outlook for the U.S. may be more concerning."

In fact, some researchers say the U.S. is already starting to see early signs of that. For example, the levels of virus being detected in wastewater is up in some parts of the country, such in Pennsylvania, Connecticut, Vermont and other parts of Northeast. That could an early-warning sign of what's coming, though overall the virus is declining nationally.

"It's really too early to say something big is happening, but it's something that we're keeping an eye on," says Amy Kirby, national wastewater surveillance program lead at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

But infections and even hospitalizations have started rising in some of the same parts of New England, as well as some other northern areas, such as the Pacific Northwest, according to Dr. David Rubin, the director of the PolicyLab at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, which tracks the pandemic.

"We're seeing the northern rim of the country beginning to show some evidence of increasing transmission," Rubin says. "The winter resurgence is beginning."

Assuming no dramatically different new variant emerges, it appears highly unlikely this year's surge would get as severe as the last two years in terms of severe disease and deaths.

"We have a lot more immunity in the population than we did last winter," says Jennifer Nuzzo, who runs the Pandemic Center at the Brown University School of Public Health.

"Not only have people gotten vaccinated, but a lot of people have now gotten this virus. In fact, some people have gotten it multiple times. And that does build up [immunity] in the population and reduce overall over risk of severe illness," Nuzzo says.

Another crucial variable that could affect how the impact of a rise of infections is how many people get one of the new bivalent omicron boosters to shore up their waning immunity.

But booster uptake in the U.S. was already sluggish. "Nearly 50% of people who are eligible for a booster have not gotten one," says William Hanage, an associate professor of epidemiology at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health. "It's wild. It's really crazy."

And the demand for the newest boosters is pretty lethargic so far. Less than 8 million people have gotten one of the new boosters since they became available over the Labor Day weekend even though more than 200 million are eligible.

Given the likelihood of a surge, it's critical people up to date on vaccines, says Nuzzo. "The most important thing that we could do is to take off the table that this virus can cause severe illness and death," she says.

"There are a lot of people who could really benefit from getting boosted but have not done so."

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Swagger_Dagger
10/07/22 1:32:27 PM
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Covid, flu, and other respiratory illnesses surge in the fall/winter. Water is wet. Okay?

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YeOld3DS
10/07/22 1:32:43 PM
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Doesn't matter, we'll be dead from nuclear holocaust long before it has a chance to do anything.
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Scohen
10/07/22 1:35:47 PM
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the fuck? A new variant? Right after the ambivalent vaccine is released? Ok I am starting to question this. And this is coming from someone who just got his ambivalent booster.

what are the chances there is a new variant just a few weeks after a new vaccine is released, three times in a row (first with the original strain, then with delta, now with omnicron)? This is like when iPhone batteries go to shit right after there is a new hardware release and a new OS to go with it

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Dreepapult
10/07/22 1:37:31 PM
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Scohen posted...
the fuck? A new variant? Right after the ambivalent vaccine is released? Ok I am starting to question this. And this is coming from someone who just got his ambivalent booster.

what are the chances there is a new variant just a few weeks after a new vaccine is released, three times in a row (first with the original strain, then with delta, now with omnicron)? This is like when iPhone batteries go to shit right after there is a new hardware release and a new OS to go with it
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HBKick18
10/07/22 1:38:32 PM
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Scohen posted...
the fuck? A new variant? Right after the ambivalent vaccine is released? Ok I am starting to question this. And this is coming from someone who just got his ambivalent booster.

what are the chances there is a new variant just a few weeks after a new vaccine is released, three times in a row (first with the original strain, then with delta, now with omnicron)? This is like when iPhone batteries go to shit right after there is a new hardware release and a new OS to go with it
this is what happens when a virus is left completely unchecked, new variants are popping up all the time because the virus is being allowed to mutate.

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Squall28
10/07/22 1:39:43 PM
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Scohen posted...
the fuck? A new variant? Right after the ambivalent vaccine is released? Ok I am starting to question this. And this is coming from someone who just got his ambivalent booster.

what are the chances there is a new variant just a few weeks after a new vaccine is released, three times in a row (first with the original strain, then with delta, now with omnicron)? This is like when iPhone batteries go to shit right after there is a new hardware release and a new OS to go with it

If anything, I'm surprised omicron hasn't been replaced yet.

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Giant_Aspirin
10/07/22 1:40:34 PM
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get your booster, people

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Scohen
10/07/22 1:41:17 PM
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HBKick18 posted...
this is what happens when a virus is left completely unchecked, new variants are popping up all the time because the virus is being allowed to mutate.

I know. I say this all the time.

but the timing is really weird. Its always a few weeks, less than a month from when a new vaccine is available.

you cant have omnicron being the latest and greatest for like a year and as soon as there is a new vaccine all of a sudden there is a new variant . And this has happened 3x.

it feels like DLC immunity or like antivirus updates.

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Scohen
10/07/22 1:41:40 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
get your booster, people


just did 3 days ago. And apparently it isnt worth shit now

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Will_VIIII
10/07/22 1:42:00 PM
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Meh, let the antivaxxers deal with the consequences of their choice.

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Scohen
10/07/22 1:42:22 PM
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but again, look at the timing.


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TendoDRM
10/07/22 1:42:41 PM
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Scohen posted...
ambivalent vaccine

lol

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Scohen
10/07/22 1:43:09 PM
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Will_VIIII posted...
Meh, let the antivaxxers deal with the consequences of their choice.

you will too, my dude. And me (usually a staunch pro-vaccine guy with a vaccine and 2 different kind of boosters). It bothers me

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Will_VIIII
10/07/22 1:44:04 PM
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I just got my booster last week actually so I'll still have some protection against any new variant which has always been the case.

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Scohen
10/07/22 1:44:52 PM
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Will_VIIII posted...
I just got my booster last week actually so I'll still have some protection against any new variant which has always been the case.

according to the article our vaccines are worth shit :(

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HBKick18
10/07/22 1:46:00 PM
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Will_VIIII posted...
Meh, let the antivaxxers deal with the consequences of their choice.
we are also dealing with the consequences. it is a massive mistake to treat this virus as a personal issue when your actions affect everyone around you.

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Will_VIIII
10/07/22 1:46:20 PM
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"It's really too early to say something big is happening" The article doesn't say that the new boosters are completely useless against a new variant either.

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gigageek1500
10/07/22 1:46:21 PM
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The virus would be constantly mutating, but in a given environment some strain will eventually become the most successful and therefore dominant. When we answer with a new vaccine effective against that strain, the environment changes, and other mutations have a chance to spread and become dominant.

Does that seem right? Does thay at least seem more plausible than the conspiracy some people in here seem to be implying?

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Will_VIIII
10/07/22 1:47:12 PM
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HBKick18 posted...
we are also dealing with the consequences. it is a massive mistake to treat this virus as a personal issue when your actions affect everyone around you.
Covid hospitalizations are still like 99% unvaccinated patients so idk anymore

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Strider102
10/07/22 1:48:35 PM
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The writers are getting lazy reusing old plot devices.

Work up something new, like a Zombie Apocalypse. Or hell, bring back the damn Murder Hornets.

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Kamen_Rider_Blade
10/07/22 2:06:25 PM
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I'm glad I got my Updated Booster shot that covers the Omicron & BA.X variants.

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Kamen_Rider_Blade
10/07/22 2:07:38 PM
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HBKick18 posted...
this is what happens when a virus is left completely unchecked, new variants are popping up all the time because the virus is being allowed to mutate.
As long as Viruses exists, they'll always find a way to mutate.

That's just the nature of things.

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Kamen_Rider_Blade
10/07/22 2:08:39 PM
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Squall28 posted...
If anything, I'm surprised omicron hasn't been replaced yet.
Omicron Variants are stronger at the moment.

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Will_VIIII
10/07/22 2:10:15 PM
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I hate this comparison because the dumbass MAGAs cried this at the start of the pandemic, but covid is becoming comparable to the flu where there's a new variant and new booster each year.

It's also worth mentioning that while these new variants are more contagious, they're also less lethal which is common for virus mutation.

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Mizznox
10/07/22 2:10:20 PM
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Scohen posted...
according to the article our vaccines are worth shit :(

From the article:

The new vaccines may still protect some against these variants, such as preventing hospitalization or death, but it may not be enough to stop an infection

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Jerry_Hellyeah
10/07/22 2:12:23 PM
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Scohen posted...
I know. I say this all the time.

but the timing is really weird. Its always a few weeks, less than a month from when a new vaccine is available.

you cant have omnicron being the latest and greatest for like a year and as soon as there is a new vaccine all of a sudden there is a new variant . And this has happened 3x.

it feels like DLC immunity or like antivirus updates.

Yeah, ITS ALMOST LIKE VACCINES ARE DEVELOPED TO FIGHT THE NEW VARIANT. ITS ALMOST LIKE THATS THE FUCKING POINT.

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ScazarMeltex
10/07/22 2:18:46 PM
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Scohen posted...
the fuck? A new variant? Right after the ambivalent vaccine is released? Ok I am starting to question this. And this is coming from someone who just got his ambivalent booster.

what are the chances there is a new variant just a few weeks after a new vaccine is released, three times in a row (first with the original strain, then with delta, now with omnicron)? This is like when iPhone batteries go to shit right after there is a new hardware release and a new OS to go with it
My dude, that is how viruses work.

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Strider102
10/07/22 2:19:02 PM
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Just think though. If it had been taken seriously from the start not only would we quite possibly have been able to avoid 1,000,000+ deaths, but it probably wouldn't have even been that big of a deal a few months later.

But stupidity had to win.

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Will_VIIII
10/07/22 2:20:03 PM
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Strider102 posted...
Just think though. If it had been taken seriously from the start not only would we quite possibly have been able to avoid 1,000,000+ deaths, but it probably wouldn't have even been that big of a deal a few months later.

But stupidity had to win.
Well, we'd have a proportional death rate like we did with h1n1.

Under Trump, 24% of the world's covid deaths occurred in a country with only 4% of the world's population.

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gamer167
10/07/22 2:52:54 PM
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Nah, Biden said Covid was over.
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Humble_Novice
10/07/22 2:53:37 PM
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It's likely going to hurt vaccine-hating Republicans the most: https://www.nber.org/papers/w30512
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Scohen
10/07/22 2:54:11 PM
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Jerry_Hellyeah posted...
Yeah, ITS ALMOST LIKE VACCINES ARE DEVELOPED TO FIGHT THE NEW VARIANT. ITS ALMOST LIKE THATS THE FUCKING POINT.

new =/= previous

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Lost_All_Senses
10/07/22 2:54:38 PM
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Dreepapult posted...
Guards seize him!

Lol. It do be like that.

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Jerry_Hellyeah
10/07/22 2:55:59 PM
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Scohen posted...
new =/= previous

You'd make one HELL of a virologist.

Be honest though: you dont know what you're talking about, do you?

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Will_VIIII
10/07/22 2:59:00 PM
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gamer167 posted...
Nah, Biden said Covid was over.

He didn't, but I know you MAGAs confuse words easily.

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ElatedVenusaur
10/07/22 3:52:17 PM
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I never stopped masking. Still haven't gotten COVID. Got my bivalent booster practically as soon as it dropped I lucked out: my clinic had gotten the first batch in a few days before my annual physical and got my flu shot yesterday for good measure.

But then, I value not only my own life and health, but that of others. Especially my girlfriend's.

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11110111011
10/07/22 4:36:15 PM
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Oh no! Anyway, . . .
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Flauros
10/07/22 4:37:03 PM
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TaylorHeinicke posted...
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Arcanine2009
10/07/22 4:50:10 PM
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YeOld3DS posted...
Doesn't matter, we'll be dead from nuclear holocaust long before it has a chance to do anything.
But buut.. I wanna enjoy switch 2 first


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