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_____Cait
09/18/22 11:40:25 PM
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Im for real. I see people posting about the wrestlers and whatever.

Ive always just viewed it as acting and mostly fake-fighting. It is all scripted and meant to sell merch and stuff. The fighting look extremely fake for the most part, and the personalities seem fake as well.

The only appeal I can see is either people think it is actually real and the drama is actually happening, or people just like the fakeness and roll with it, like soap operas or Shonen anime escapism.

Can someone give me another perspective?

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StarbucksWorker
09/18/22 11:47:48 PM
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why does someone have to explain the appeal to you though, youre old enough to watch an episode of two to make that decision for yourself. you will either like it or you wont as im sure you have done with everything in your life up until this point
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RashodBateman
09/18/22 11:51:13 PM
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https://youtu.be/93jH9TNGpLM

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omega_cookie
09/18/22 11:53:28 PM
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Ever seen a gymnastics recital? Ever seen a soap opera?

Combine the two, and make it live. It's a stage show that uses the story to drive the "action scenes", where a normal stage show is in the reverse. You're not supposed to believe the combat is real. At no point during Macbeth does the sword fighting look real, nor do you believe it is. You just sit back and enjoy.

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Zikten
09/18/22 11:55:21 PM
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I'm not much into it, but I occasionally like to watch the women matches.
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BuckVanHammer
09/18/22 11:57:14 PM
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It's so fucking absurd that I find it really fucking fascinating. I'm not much into modern stuff but I can go back and watch 80s and 90s and have a good time.

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Kurt_Russel
09/18/22 11:58:39 PM
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I wish there were more gimmicks and not wrestling man

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HylianFox
09/19/22 12:00:11 AM
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Wrestling is just gay sex without the sex
>_>

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Zikten
09/19/22 12:00:57 AM
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Kurt_Russel posted...
I wish there were more gimmicks and not wrestling man
This. When I was a kid every wrestler was unique with a exotic costume and gimmick. Modern wrestler are just "generic strong person "
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Lost_All_Senses
09/19/22 12:02:26 AM
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HylianFox posted...
Wrestling is just gay sex without the sex
>_>

So it's just gay?

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HylianFox
09/19/22 12:04:26 AM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
So it's just gay?

Hard to say, a bunch of half-naked dudes being on top of each other seems kinda gay, but for some odd reason doesn't appeal to me that much.

I think they should just embrace the gayness of it all

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xGhostchantx
09/19/22 12:04:29 AM
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It's Passions or Bold & the Beautiful mixed with gymnastics.

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BuckVanHammer
09/19/22 12:06:14 AM
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xGhostchantx posted...
It's Passions or Bold & the Beautiful mixed with gymnastics.
I've seen passions and that shit was wacky... did bold & the beautiful get that out there with witches and ghosts and shit?

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Murphiroth
09/19/22 12:06:31 AM
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It's basically a long running stage play with strong emphasis on the fight scenes.

And in the more modern era where kayfabe has been truly broken for over 20 years, a lot of the interest comes from seeing just how well a wrestler's character is booked. There's a lot that goes into in-ring psychology and making an angle and the matches/promos within it work.
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xGhostchantx
09/19/22 12:08:01 AM
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BuckVanHammer posted...
did bold & the beautiful get that out there with witches and ghosts and shit?

if I recall, there were a couple deaths & resurrections.

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Touch
09/19/22 12:09:46 AM
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Without trying to sound too hyperbolic, it's an art form. Think of dancers or bands or any performing arts. Tons of practicing to make sure for concerts or performances that they give the best show possible.

Now for wrestling, it's all that AND you have to take care of your opponent at the same time. While it is technically "fake fighting", a lot of the damage is real. Not to mention having the stamina and constant awareness to make sure that you don't injure yourself or your opponent. You see matches with a lot of botches and then you compare them to masterpieces like Omega v Okada matches or Daniel Bryan's WrestleMania run and it's night and day.

The promos and acting and stuff is another story and can make and break dudes like MJF, Miz or early career Roman Reigns. But in the end, it's about the wrestling.

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Zikten
09/19/22 12:11:43 AM
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Murphiroth posted...
It's basically a long running stage play with strong emphasis on the fight scenes.

And in the more modern era where kayfabe has been truly broken for over 20 years, a lot of the interest comes from seeing just how well a wrestler's character is booked. There's a lot that goes into in-ring psychology and making an angle and the matches/promos within it work.
But why did gimmicks die out? Every wrestler looks the same.
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Touch
09/19/22 12:13:10 AM
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Zikten posted...
But why did gimmicks die out? Every wrestler looks the same.
There's plenty of gimmicks still out there. AEW seems to have it more in spades now than WWE but they're there.

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cjsdowg
09/19/22 12:13:27 AM
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If you don't think this looks real , I don't know what to tell you.

https://twitter.com/JustAlyxCentral/status/1570214935929446403

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Murphiroth
09/19/22 12:41:26 AM
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Zikten posted...
But why did gimmicks die out? Every wrestler looks the same.

Yeah that's not really true. Gimmicks don't go as hard as they used to, they simply can't, but look at someone like Danhausen or Orange Cassidy or Luigi Primo, gimmicks are alive and well.
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Zikten
09/19/22 12:54:04 AM
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Murphiroth posted...
Yeah that's not really true. Gimmicks don't go as hard as they used to, they simply can't, but look at someone like Danhausen or Orange Cassidy or Luigi Primo, gimmicks are alive and well.
I have no idea who those people are. I'm just remembering that in the 80s every single wrestler had some kind of unique backstory or theme

A billionaire with dollars signs on his clothes is the man guy I keep remembering cause I had an action figure of him
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Zikten
09/19/22 12:54:40 AM
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The only theme I know today is that one blonde lady who acts like Harley Quinn
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Heineken14
09/19/22 12:55:23 AM
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Because it's fun and entertaining with a bit of nostalgia thrown in the mix.

As for it being fake.... I hate to be the one to tell you Santa isn't real, but... you know tv shows and movies are fake too, right?

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The_Wheelman1
09/19/22 12:58:23 AM
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Either you like it or you don't. We can't force someone to enjoy something that they don't like.

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Touch
09/19/22 1:00:36 AM
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Zikten posted...
I have no idea who those people are. I'm just remembering that in the 80s every single wrestler had some kind of unique backstory or theme

A billionaire with dollars signs on his clothes is the man guy I keep remembering cause I had an action figure of him
We'll theres plenty. Heck, world champ of WWE right now has a big Samoan family and "head of the table" type gimmick. Not the strongest gimmick but

There's also a guy who literally gives off serial killer vibes. He abducts wrestlers from time to time (tho not much ever really happens to them besides some PTSD), never talks, and is actually damn good at making cartoons/drawings.

And there's also this

https://youtu.be/LLcH5p_iP4s

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_____Cait
09/19/22 1:03:41 AM
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So it seems most people know it is fake

So why do people follow the actors and take their opinions so seriously on this board?

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Zikten
09/19/22 1:05:18 AM
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Touch posted...
There's also a guy who literally gives off serial killer vibes. He abducts wrestlers from time to time (tho not much ever really happens to them besides some PTSD), never talks, and is actually damn good at making cartoons/drawings.
Is he friends with a blonde crazy girl?

I might have seen this serial killer guy
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omega_cookie
09/19/22 1:12:20 AM
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_____Cait posted...
So it seems most people know it is fake

So why do people follow the actors and take their opinions so seriously on this board?
If you're going to troll, you should do better at hiding it.

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ultimate_reaver
09/19/22 1:13:06 AM
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its a form of fiction. generally, people partake in fiction for different reasons. some people like watching characters preform. other people like watching exciting action. yet others are engrossed in behind the scenes drama because they are interested in how the fiction is made

i dont think its a very complicated concept (in fact im pretty sure you're just fucking around and stirring the pot). people like stories and people like watching performances. neither of them has being real as any sort of requirement

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Heineken14
09/19/22 1:34:40 AM
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Zikten posted...

Is he friends with a blonde crazy girl?

I might have seen this serial killer guy


https://imgur.com/lnNCXgC.jpeg

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Zikten
09/19/22 1:44:31 AM
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Heineken14 posted...
https://imgur.com/lnNCXgC.jpeg
Oh ok. Not the guy I was thinking of. The one I know wears a mask with like lots of teeth I think. He looks like a demon and his friend is a harley Quinn type
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bigtiggie23
09/19/22 2:09:22 AM
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Zikten posted...

Oh ok. Not the guy I was thinking of. The one I know wears a mask with like lots of teeth I think. He looks like a demon and his friend is a harley Quinn type

You haven't watched since the Bray Wyatt/Fiend and Alexa days.

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Zikten
09/19/22 2:23:03 AM
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bigtiggie23 posted...
You haven't watched since the Bray Wyatt/Fiend and Alexa days.
Yea I guess. Last time I watched part of an episode was I think maybe 3 years ago
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