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MysteryMan923
09/15/22 11:21:19 AM
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How do you feel abour Ariel being black?



Discuss

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Robot2600
09/15/22 11:22:07 AM
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Inb4 racists

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Bishop_Hastur
09/15/22 11:24:15 AM
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Damn_Underscore
09/15/22 11:27:11 AM
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I dont care what Ariel looks like

I havent seen any of these crappy Disney remakes and Im not going to start now

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Questionmarktarius
09/15/22 11:27:55 AM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
I havent seen any of these crappy Disney remakes and Im not going to start now
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K181
09/15/22 11:29:16 AM
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Don't care, beyond ancillary annoyance as my wife is annoyed whenever they change the appearance of any redheaded character on account of her being a redhead.

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The_Popo
09/15/22 11:29:20 AM
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I feel like there are times that race/skin color can be important to the character, but much more often than not, it just comes down to the story and the smaller details.

With Ariel, I think her red hair is the most iconic part about her (other than, you know, being half fish). And they nailed that. Also, she needs to look pretty young, since a major part of the story is Ariel being a youth who is rebelling against her fathers wishes. The actress nails that characteristic down as well. Her skin color is completely unimportant. Mermaids arent real, so theyre skin color is inconsequential.

Another character that always comes to mind for me was the casting of Michael Clarke Duncan as Kingpin in the Daredevil movie. They got a big dude to play the role of Kingpin, and that was an important characteristic for whoever played the role of Kingpin, in my opinion.

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RaulJenkins
09/15/22 11:30:41 AM
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100% OK with it, not seeing the movie anyway

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Hayame_Zero
09/15/22 11:31:02 AM
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I don't care for the live-action films, but the casting is pretty cool

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bigblu89
09/15/22 11:33:07 AM
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I think the same thing I think whenever they remake anything.

"Kinda sucks that they've seemed to have run out of original ideas, and the ones that are original rarely get any mainstream traction"

or

"Just because they remade something that you loved and 'ruined it', doesn't mean you can't still watch the original. It's a remake, not a replacement."

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Dragon56
09/15/22 11:33:32 AM
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Robot2600 posted...
Inb4 racists

Ariel is an iconic character with an iconic look. It's not racist to want that look to be brought to real life in a life action remake. We are missing out on that for the sake of forced diversity. Perhaps a better idea would to create another princess for their agenda.
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MachineJaipur
09/15/22 11:35:00 AM
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Indifferent

But I wish more people would see that it was a choice that was solely made to intentionally create controversy to drive attention to the existence of the movie more than it was about whatever token woke representation both camps are fighting over.

Not a soul would've known this movie was coming out, much like NOBODY knew Pinnochio was happening, if they had went with generic white actress with generic white male lead to play the love interest.

Congrats guys, you gave this movie more advertising than a $250M ad push
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bigblu89
09/15/22 11:40:03 AM
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Dragon56 posted...
Ariel is an iconic character with an iconic look. It's not racist to want that look to be brought to real life in a life action remake. We are missing out on that for the sake of forced diversity. Perhaps a better idea would to create another princess for their agenda.

Why do you feel it's "forced diversity"? Does it bother you that they went with an actress that is 50 years younger than the original voice actress for Ursula?

Plus, there was a Live action Little Mermaid in 2019 depicting Ariel with the same "iconic" look she had in the cartoon.

If you so desperately need to see that look, watch that one.

Also. This movie existing doesn't replace the cartoon. If you're that upset, just keep watching that one.

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DespondentDeity
09/15/22 11:41:34 AM
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I love it. Shoulda happened sooner

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YoungMutual
09/15/22 11:44:10 AM
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RaulJenkins posted...
100% OK with it, not seeing the movie anyway


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Scintillant
09/15/22 11:45:28 AM
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Dragon56 posted...
Ariel is an iconic character with an iconic look. It's not racist to want that look to be brought to real life in a life action remake. We are missing out on that for the sake of forced diversity. Perhaps a better idea would to create another princess for their agenda.
ITP: white skin is an iconic look

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ZevLoveDOOM
09/15/22 11:46:37 AM
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its a big fat juicy "i dont care" from me dawg.
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theAteam
09/15/22 11:46:58 AM
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I'm more upset about them feeling the need to do live action remakes of animated films that no one is asking for.

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lolife67
09/15/22 11:48:03 AM
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MachineJaipur posted...
But I wish more people would see that it was a choice that was solely made to intentionally create controversy to drive attention to the existence of the movie more than it was about whatever token woke representation both camps are fighting over.
This is the second worst take in this topic.
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Dragon56
09/15/22 11:49:13 AM
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bigblu89 posted...
Why do you feel it's "forced diversity"?
Changing the race of a well established character is forced diversity
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bigblu89
09/15/22 11:49:40 AM
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theAteam posted...
I'm more upset about them feeling the need to do live action remakes of animated films that no one is asking for.

I think this is just a product of them running out of original ideas.

Not that Little Mermaid was an original idea to begin with.

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MachineJaipur
09/15/22 11:50:42 AM
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lolife67 posted...
This is the second worst take in this topic.
What, you think Disney didn't know that it would piss a bunch of neckbeards off if they went with the 'diversity' pick? It's literally free advertising for them to do this kind of stuff.
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Interstella5555
09/15/22 11:51:26 AM
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Dragon56 posted...
Ariel is an iconic character with an iconic look.

No she's not unless you're pissed at Disney that they didn't give her black hair.

It's not racist to want that look to be brought to real life in a life action remake.

What look? A white look? Or the black hair?

We are missing out on that for the sake of forced diversity.

Almost like a story that's a fantasy came be retold in different ways.... Again, are you pissed because she doesn't have red hair or she's not white?



Perhaps a better idea would to create another princess for their agenda.

I guess being not being a bigoted POS would be too much of a stretch for you. But you should definitly make that movie though I'm not sure how people are going to see her red hair under that hood you want to put on her.

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bigblu89
09/15/22 11:51:58 AM
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Dragon56 posted...
Changing the race of a well established character is forced diversity

Like Liz Taylor playing Cleopatra?

I also wouldn't call her look "iconic". It' just happened to be a look they already had on the books, as it was just a tweak on one of the mermaids in Peter Pan.

It was also never established the race or ethnicity in HCA's book. And it's supposed to take place in the Caribbean, so if anything, she'D look more like the actress in the live action movie than in the cartoon.

Also, IT'S A FICTIONAL MERMAID.

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Scintillant
09/15/22 11:52:28 AM
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People who say this was merely a diversity pick are severely disrespecting Halle Bailey's immense talent. She didn't get the role because of the color of her skin.

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MachineJaipur
09/15/22 11:54:37 AM
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Scintillant posted...
People who say this was merely a diversity pick are severely disrespecting Halle Bailey's immense talent. She didn't get the role because of the color of her skin.
I'm not saying she didn't ultimately earn the role.

They just knew exactly what the outcome would be as they picked her, and I wouldn't be surprised if, in a tight contest between her and the other finalist(s), if the diversity aspect won her the spot (not saying this is the case, just hypothetically)
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NoxObscuras
09/15/22 11:54:44 AM
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I like Halle Bailey. She looks great, and her rendition of "part of your world" is amazing.

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ellis123
09/15/22 11:55:48 AM
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Interstella5555 posted...
No she's not unless you're pissed at Disney that they didn't give her black hair.
How dare you act like Disney hasn't been making the most immaculate retellings of classic stories ever. Or that things were allowed to exist prior to them being dropped down the stairs out of their mother's womb.

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lolife67
09/15/22 11:57:37 AM
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MachineJaipur posted...
What, you think Disney didn't know that it would piss a bunch of neckbeards off if they went with the 'diversity' pick? It's literally free advertising for them to do this kind of stuff.
I think they didn't care, actually. You're completely ignoring the skills and attributes of the person they hired.
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TheOnionKnight
09/15/22 12:02:00 PM
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I was largely indifferent at first, but after seeing all the bigoted backlash about "agendas" and other bullshit, my feelings have grown more positive. Disney obviously struck a nerve. Hopefully they strike more.

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Hayame_Zero
09/15/22 12:02:10 PM
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People are making it out to be a revision of a historical figure.

She's a mermaid that was never defined by race.

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Popcorn2000
09/15/22 12:03:14 PM
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Personably dont care but the fact it triggers all the republican racists Im all for it

the racists on this board already melted down
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bigblu89
09/15/22 12:06:42 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Dude. John Wayne played GHENGIS KHAN in a movie.

But a Little Mermaid remake with a black mermaid is a problem.

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TheOnionKnight
09/15/22 12:09:04 PM
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Cleopatra was a Ptolemy. I get the general point, but that isn't a good example. The John Wayne as Genghis Khan one is better. And there are definitely plenty of other examples out there.

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ZevLoveDOOM
09/15/22 12:12:20 PM
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these bigots who get offended at things like this might as well just cut the bullshit and say "Goddammit Disney, go back to being racist!"

cause its pretty much what they're saying...
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bigblu89
09/15/22 12:18:30 PM
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TheOnionKnight posted...
Cleopatra was a Ptolemy. I get the general point, but that isn't a good example. The John Wayne as Genghis Khan one is better. And there are definitely plenty of other examples out there.
OK.

Let's go with:

Joseph Fiennes as Michael Jackson
Ben Affleck as Tony Mendez
Angelina Jolie as Marlane Pearl
Johnny Depp as Tonto
Jake Gyllenhaal as Prince of Persia

And basically any white actor that has played any Biblical character, considering 99% of all humans depicted in the Bible are of Middle Eastern descent.


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ThyCorndog
09/15/22 12:18:49 PM
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Couldn't care less

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K181
09/15/22 12:27:07 PM
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bigblu89 posted...
Dude. John Wayne played GHENGIS KHAN in a movie.

If it makes you feel better, that role probably killed John Wayne.

The Conqueror was shot on a former nuclear test site, and over 40% of the cast and crew developed cancer later on almost assuredly because of that. John Wayne was one of 46 cast and crew members to die from cancer (or cancer-related issues).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Conqueror_(1956_film)

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TheOnionKnight
09/15/22 12:35:57 PM
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bigblu89 posted...
And basically any white actor that has played any Biblical character, considering 99% of all humans depicted in the Bible are of Middle Eastern descent

As I said, there are plenty of examples to choose from! But people always seem to want to pull out Cleopatra, which isn't good for actually illustrating the point.

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Bishop9800
09/15/22 12:38:54 PM
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Dragon56 posted...
Ariel is an iconic character with an iconic look. It's not racist to want that look to be brought to real life in a life action remake. We are missing out on that for the sake of forced diversity. Perhaps a better idea would to create another princess for their agenda.


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Questionmarktarius
09/15/22 12:45:08 PM
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TheOnionKnight posted...
And there are definitely plenty of other examples out there.
Mickey Rooney as Mr. Yunioshi
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eggcorn
09/15/22 12:45:25 PM
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Dragon56 posted...
Changing the race of a well established character is forced diversity
"Well established" its a fucking cartoon. If your brain is that blown out over this that's definitely a you problem.

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Biofighter55
09/15/22 12:45:26 PM
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honestly indifferent, regardless of who was playing her, I still wouldnt see it because it not for me lol

saw the actress on grownish, thought she was hot and she sings amazingly

i think shell do fine

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Monolith1676
09/15/22 12:55:06 PM
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It's whatever, just sucks that redhead characters are seemingly being removed from movies and tv.

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Nemu
09/15/22 12:56:55 PM
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It doesn't really matter in an adaptation of a public domain book. I think there's legitimate discourse around race swapping, but the whole thing is so muddled in strawmen and bad faith racist arguments.
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Lairen
09/15/22 12:59:25 PM
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Thats some good bait.

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ellis123
09/15/22 1:07:06 PM
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Nemu posted...
I think there's legitimate discourse around race swapping
Not really, no. Swapping a character's race matters if the act of them being a particular race actually has any bearing on the plot or messages portrayed in the media. Unsurprisingly there isn't a single aspect about any character that has had race-swapping (well, maybe some of the ones where the character has been made white...) where the race of the character was actually relevant. Heck, if anything the themes of The Little Mermaid are even stronger with the change as the entire point of the story was the conjunction of two entirely different worlds, something that is made even more explicit by having the characters also be a different race.

Monolith1676 posted...
It's whatever, just sucks that redhead characters are seemingly being removed from movies and tv.
RIP Black Widow.

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