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Lairen
09/06/22 6:30:12 PM
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1 was very ok. 2 kind of sucked. It just seemed really pointless. Id think Broly could just destroy Goten, Trunks and Gohan easily but even winning he was struggling with killing them. Gohan did ok but also Goku had to save the day again.

It was extremely mediocre and less than an hour long.

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sabin017
09/06/22 6:33:47 PM
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I like the second Broly movie once Gohan steps in. It's kinda the opposite of Super Hero.

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AngelsNAirwav3s
09/06/22 6:40:30 PM
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Dragon Ball Super: Broly is by far the best of the Broly movies. Probably the best animation and fight scenes in all of Dragon Ball.

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Lairen
09/06/22 6:47:37 PM
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I saw Broly Super first. I enjoyed it. Simple and to the point. Enjoyable with no major flaw.

After watching the original Broly im NOW glad they rebooted/remade him. Original Broly is literally really stupid. Hes like Nemesis for Goku...

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s0nicfan
09/06/22 6:50:16 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
Dragon Ball Super: Broly is by far the best of the Broly movies. Probably the best animation and fight scenes in all of Dragon Ball.

I'd go a step further and say it's the best dragon ball movie.

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Xethuminra
09/06/22 6:51:33 PM
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I haven't gotten that far but what they're doing with Broly nowadays sounds interesting. All else aside, back then he was just a particularly cool character design that became a fan favorite in multimedia, basically. The idea or legend of Broly also seemed to stick with a lot of people. So, if they can nail the personality, could be really entertaining if I understand the direction they're taking or that they took with him. I read somewhere he starts training with Goku & Vegeta on King Kai's planet. But really I imagine Broly would be best served as a character mostly there for comedy outside of fighting, who is capable of some really bad stuff when he gets angry, similar to what everyone is seemingly worried Buu is going to snap and do (but never really does). Broly could explore some untouched points of an unstable character and bridge the gap between Goku & Vegeta, while also opening the door for new Saiyan warrior stories. He isn't exactly stupid. How they use his untransformed state would be critical. I'd make him like a vegetable, so he only really takes this state when he is sleeping or resting, and is always Super Saiyan .5 when he is awake usually. This way it would be hilarious and they could use the Super Saiyan personality in passing conversation and filler which hasn't been done before
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The_Popo
09/06/22 6:53:55 PM
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Lairen posted...
1 was very ok. 2 kind of sucked. It just seemed really pointless. Id think Broly could just destroy Goten, Trunks and Gohan easily but even winning he was struggling with killing them. Gohan did ok but also Goku had to save the day again.

It was extremely mediocre and less than an hour long.

Now watch Bio Broly. That 2nd movie will seem like a masterpiece by comparison.

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Lairen
09/06/22 6:54:32 PM
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Just waiting for Brogeta and Goly....

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s0nicfan
09/06/22 6:56:03 PM
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Xethuminra posted...
I haven't gotten that far but what they're doing with Broly nowadays sounds interesting. All else aside, back then he was just a particularly cool character design that became a fan favorite in multimedia, basically. The idea or legend of Broly also seemed to stick with a lot of people. So, if they can nail the personality, could be really entertaining if I understand the direction they're taking or that they took with him. I read somewhere he starts training with Goku & Vegeta on King Kai's planet. But really I imagine Broly would be best served as a character mostly there for comedy outside of fighting, who is capable of some really bad stuff when he gets angry, similar to what everyone is seemingly worried Buu is going to snap and do (but never really does). Broly could explore some untouched points of an unstable character and bridge the gap between Goku & Vegeta, while also opening the door for new Saiyan warrior stories. He isn't exactly stupid. How they use his untransformed state would be critical. I'd make him like a vegetable, so he only really takes this state when he is sleeping or resting, and is always Super Saiyan .5 when he is awake usually. This way it would be hilarious and they could use the Super Saiyan personality in passing conversation and filler which hasn't been done before

Minor spoilers for the newest movie: Goku and Vegeta are training with broly on beerus's planet. They have to keep interrupting the fight because broly keeps being at risk of snapping and going crazy like in his movie, so they're largely working on getting his anger under control. However, the latest movie is both non-canon and also takes place a number of years in the future which means we probably won't see much broly in the mainline story unless this was just a test to see how audiences reacted.

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Mistere_Man
09/06/22 6:57:28 PM
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Lairen posted...
Just waiting for Brogeta and Goly....
Hold my Gokly's

Broku would be ok too imo.

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Xethuminra
09/06/22 6:59:48 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
Minor spoilers for the newest movie: Goku and Vegeta are training with broly on beerus's planet. They have to keep interrupting the fight because broly keeps being at risk of snapping and going crazy like in his movie, so they're largely working on getting his anger under control. However, the latest movie is both non-canon and also takes place a number of years in the future which means we probably won't see much broly in the mainline story unless this was just a test to see how audiences reacted.
Broly should be capable of taking more damage than Goku basically, but he isn't as strong due to Goku's superior techniques and energy control. Even when Broly goes into beast mode, he gets burnt out too quick and he's still too slow.

I imagine Broly could also lift more

Like a meathead, with softspots
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Noumas
09/07/22 4:37:26 AM
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I thought you meant the new ones, which I kinda want to see
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tremain07
09/07/22 4:55:11 AM
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Broly second coming did irreparable damage to broly's character, being a screaming madman that can only say KAKAROTTTTTT became his entire character going forward and to everyone's surprise it made him extremely popular to the point even with a canon version of Broly now, nobody gives much of a fuck about him, Heroes still promotes the hell out of Z broly to the he has super saiyan 4, Super saiyan 3, his version of super saiyan god in a 3d movie some years about and now super saiyan 4 limit breaker making him strong enough to take on Super saiyan 4 limit breaker Vegito and Super saiyan blue Vegito at the same time he can even fight Jiren to a stand still now.

Meanwhile it seems like only Toriyama gets to touch Super broly or rather is the only one interested in Super Broly his brief appearence in super hero is the first time we've seen him since his debut movie, not a single game or fan manga has shown super Broly the fanbase just doesn't care about him like Z broly who shows up even in fan manga fighting Beerus it would not surprise me if Z Broly is put in breakers once it comes out

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Lairen
09/07/22 7:06:43 AM
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Yeah. He literally seemed stupid attacking children only saying "KAKAROT". Not to mention this is over Goku crying when they were literal babies.

Watching Super Broly first really hurt how i see Z Broly. Tbf i like Z Brolys hulked out white eyed super saiyan form. Thats all i knew him by but im still disappointed hes so literally stupid.

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Xethuminra
09/07/22 11:52:08 AM
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Literally make him Buu and it's fine.

Instead of childish banter, he's a parody of Vegeta.

Basically reinventing the Hulk. This is nothing new to anime, but I think it's been a long time since DB focused on that idea.

Broly would be more powerful than the other characters half the time because he's always powered up. So, he could get mad at Goku and fling him across the area before he's able to react. Beerus does this to Goku often because Beerus doesn't really power up either. He's always in go mode. It's the perfect direction for DB in the future.

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Lairen
09/07/22 11:54:32 AM
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And Bio-Broly did suck. Shocker.

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s0nicfan
09/07/22 11:56:08 AM
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The weird thing about this nu-Broly being canon is the fact that Kale was basically invented to be in-universe Broly and has the exact same rage-induced powerup, complete with the same visual effects.

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Hayame_Zero
09/07/22 11:57:10 AM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

I never watched any of the Broly movies until years later. I watched the first one, and it was awful. And then 2 and 3 are regarded as bad even fans, so I thought why would I continue?

Super Broly was awesome though, and the first time the character was interesting to me

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Xethuminra
09/07/22 12:01:10 PM
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Omg guys

It's Brock Lee
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Jupiter
09/07/22 12:03:08 PM
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I never watched any of the Broly movies including Super. I missed them as a kid (not 100% sure they came on TV actually), and I felt like I was too behind on Super to just jump into Broly. My friend said Super Broly was really good, so I'm gonna watch that at some point. I plan to watch the DBZ ones first. I don't care about continuity in Super anymore though since I don't plan on watching it anymore.

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gamepimp12
09/07/22 12:07:40 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
Minor spoilers for the newest movie: Goku and Vegeta are training with broly on beerus's planet. They have to keep interrupting the fight because broly keeps being at risk of snapping and going crazy like in his movie, so they're largely working on getting his anger under control. However, the latest movie is both non-canon and also takes place a number of years in the future which means we probably won't see much broly in the mainline story unless this was just a test to see how audiences reacted.

Super Heros is canon

it takes place after the Moro arc in the manga but before the granolah arc.

based on that broly is likely currently the 4th or 5th maybe even 6th strongest Z fighter


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Foppe
09/07/22 12:22:07 PM
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gamepimp12 posted...
Super Heros is canon

it takes place after the Moro arc in the manga but before the granolah arc.

based on that broly is likely currently the 4th or 5th maybe even 6th strongest Z fighter
When did this change?

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Heartomaton
09/07/22 1:02:57 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
The weird thing about this nu-Broly being canon is the fact that Kale was basically invented to be in-universe Broly and has the exact same rage-induced powerup, complete with the same visual effects.

The loophole is that Kale isn't from the Dragonball universe... she's from the Dragonball universe's twin universe, Universe 6. :D

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gamepimp12
09/07/22 1:40:12 PM
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Foppe posted...
When did this change?

its always been canon.

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hop918
09/07/22 2:12:47 PM
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gamepimp12 posted...
Super Heros is canon

it takes place after the Moro arc in the manga but before the granolah arc.

based on that broly is likely currently the 4th or 5th maybe even 6th strongest Z fighter

No it's only Canon to the movies

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mehmeh1
09/07/22 2:25:02 PM
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Lairen posted...
It was extremely mediocre
that's like, 90% of the old Z films tbh

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Lairen
09/07/22 2:47:16 PM
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mehmeh1 posted...
that's like, 90% of the old Z films tbh

Im about to find out

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SpiritSephiroth
09/07/22 2:47:43 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
Minor spoilers for the newest movie: Goku and Vegeta are training with broly on beerus's planet. They have to keep interrupting the fight because broly keeps being at risk of snapping and going crazy like in his movie, so they're largely working on getting his anger under control. However, the latest movie is both non-canon and also takes place a number of years in the future which means we probably won't see much broly in the mainline story unless this was just a test to see how audiences reacted.

I keep hearing everyone say its non-canon but where did you guys get that info from?

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SpiritSephiroth
09/07/22 2:48:16 PM
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Nevermind just read the other posts

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AngelsNAirwav3s
09/07/22 3:28:35 PM
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The manga is taking a break right now, and there are also pretty credible rumors that a new anime is coming next. I am long passed the time when I cared about what is and isn't canon, but it would be nice for AT, Toyotarou, and the anime team to get on the same page and bring the different storylines together. Things are getting a bit too jumbled.

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hop918
09/07/22 3:37:21 PM
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Toriyama just writes outlines and gives them to Toyatarou and the anime staff at the time and let's them fill in the rest. He gives no shit about canon nor has he ever. The only thing he's going to do is cash the check they keep giving him because the series is so popular people will eat up whatever shit is put out.
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