Current Events > Left some almond milk for the neighborhood cat

(+) Yeah! (+)

Seems like eventually she drank it. Few days later find a dead rat next to where the milk was.

Does this mean Im accepted by the cat? Does she want more milk? Can I even feed them almond milk?

Nah, the rat drank that shit and died

R1masher posted...

Nah, the rat drank that shit and died

I'm gonna be honest. This was my first thought lmao.

Lmao. Nah, the rat wasnt that close to the milk, more like a few feet away. And almond milk doesnt spoil like that. Saw the cat sipping a bit on it before leaving it and next day was empty.

Thought the rat was some sort of thank you.

JuanCarlos1 posted...

Thought the rat was some sort of thank you.

yeah. Cats will do that. One time one of my parents' cats brought us a gift of fresh still-pulsing rodent intestines >_>

JuanCarlos1 posted...

Can I even feed them almond milk?

Yeah, since it's lactose free it's good as an occasional thing.

should have went with oat milk...

JuanCarlos1 posted...

Can I even feed them almond milk?

Think about it a bit like giving grass to your child: they can chew it and swallow it, but it's just going to go through the body mostly undigested.

In a word, no. It is not safe.

In 2020, they did a Tox report on Almond milk in the UK, and found the following:

"Eleven drinks containing raw vegetables and fruit, flax seeds, whole apples with seeds, raw almond drink and pasteurised almond drink were analysed for total cyanide. Total cyanide levels of 9.6, 41,134 and 272 g/L were detected in smoothies containing almond drink."

https://cot.food.gov.uk/sites/default/files/2020-08/TOX-2020-16%20Almond%20drinks%20first%20draft.doc_accesibleinadobepro_tobeuploaded.pdf

Obviously, as we all know: "Finally, long-term consumption of cyanide-containing foods, such as cassava root or apricot seeds, may lead to cyanide poisoning. [even in humans!]" (https://emedicine.medscape.com/article/814287-overview)

Now, bearing that in mind -- think about how it could build up in your cats system a lot faster than humans, whereas they're relatively mild dosages for humans and it would take drinking a lot of the stuff to poison us, the same is not true for cats. They're a lot smaller.

Michael_Booth posted...

In a word, no. It is not safe.

In 2020, they did a Tox report on Almond milk in the UK, and found the following:

"Eleven drinks containing raw vegetables and fruit, flax seeds, whole apples with seeds, raw almond drink and pasteurised almond drink were analysed for total cyanide. Total cyanide levels of 9.6, 41,134 and 272 g/L were detected in smoothies containing almond drink."

https://cot.food.gov.uk/sites/default/files/2020-08/TOX-2020-16%20Almond%20drinks%20first%20draft.doc_accesibleinadobepro_tobeuploaded.pdf

Obviously, as we all know: "Finally, long-term consumption of cyanide-containing foods, such as cassava root or apricot seeds, may lead to cyanide poisoning. [even in humans!]" (https://emedicine.medscape.com/article/814287-overview)

Now, bearing that in mind -- think about how it could build up in your cats system a lot faster than humans, whereas they're relatively mild dosages for humans and it would take drinking a lot of the stuff to poison us, the same is not true for cats. They're a lot smaller.

Well I went with that instead of regular milk due to lactose

You realize cats dont drink milk right
Thats some shit you got from cartoons

iirc, even with regular milk, cats shouldn't be drinking it after a certain age.

so it's better just to leave them some water.

Yeah almonds contain cyanide. Not enough generally to be of any concern to humans, but I'm not sure about a cat

Oat milk would probably be fine though, oats are safe to use in homemade cat food

SauI_Goodman posted...

You realize cats dont drink milk right
Thats some shit you got from cartoons

A friend of mine had a cat that wouldn't even drink water... like ever. She would only feed him wet food and would mix water in with it, so that's why he didn't die from dehydration, but any time she tried leaving out a bowl of water for him, he would just permanently ignore it.

JuanCarlos1 posted...

Well I went with that instead of regular milk due to lactose

Give the poor cat, chicken, or some other meat product, rather than any type of milk.

FigureOfSpeech posted...

A friend of mine had a cat that wouldn't even drink water... like ever. She would only feed him wet food and would mix water in with it, so that's why he didn't die from dehydration, but any time she tried leaving out a bowl of water for him, he would just permanently ignore it.

They instinctively don't trust sitting water. That's why they slap it with their paw, they want to see it moves. It's also why they go apeshit over sink water.

Michael_Booth posted...

Give the poor cat, chicken, or some other meat product, rather than any type of milk.

uh oh.

my dog gets regular milk in a small amount every day, doesn't get the shits either.

HovaRex posted...

They instinctively don't trust sitting water. That's why they slap it with their paw, they want to see it moves. It's also why they go apeshit over sink water.

They can smell the chlorine, as well, and the soap or whatever you clean the bowl with. They much prefer puddle water, which smells sweeter.
If you have some way to store rainwater, cats will drink that fine.

HovaRex posted...

They instinctively don't trust sitting water. That's why they slap it with their paw, they want to see it moves. It's also why they go apeshit over sink water.

hmm. interesting. One of my parents' cats when I was a teenager used to just sit in the bathtub and let the water drip on his head (the faucet was leaky. I always found that odd considering cats' reputation about water, but it makes sense if it's just sitting water that bothers them. He was probably annoyed when my stepfather fixed the leak lol

FigureOfSpeech posted...

hmm. interesting. One of my parents' cats when I was a teenager used to just sit in the bathtub and let the water drip on his head (the faucet was leaky. I always found that odd considering cats' reputation about water, but it makes sense if it's just sitting water that bothers them. He was probably annoyed when my stepfather fixed the leak lol

Lol I can almost guarantee you he was pissed.

kingdrake2 posted...

uh oh.

my dog gets regular milk in a small amount every day, doesn't get the s***s either.

Lactose intolerance is very, very, very common in animals. Humans are pretty unique, and that's only Western countries where 70%~90% of the population have lactose tolerance. Cats, like almost all mammals are lactose intolerant. Dogs, a bit less so (They've been with us and share what we eat since time immemorial). However, even if your dog is lactose intolerant, it will require a lot more milk than a cat to experience the symptoms, since it's probably bigger -- also:
Ishpreet Gill, DVM, with Fletcher's Creek Animal Hospital, says that "although both dogs and cats can be lactose intolerant, cats are more likely to experience problems" ( https://www.petmd.com/cat/conditions/digestive/truth-about-dairy-products-and-pets )

JuanCarlos1 posted...

Thought the rat was some sort of thank you.

For sure. My cat would bring dead birds into my room specifically sometimes.It's a gesture.

Regarding milk i don't know where this idea that cats don't actually drink milk comes from, cats love milk, cream, whipped cream and cake.
Almond milk I'm not sure.

Michael_Booth posted...

They can smell the chlorine, as well, and the soap or whatever you clean the bowl with. They much prefer puddle water, which smells sweeter.
If you have some way to store rainwater, cats will drink that fine.

Rain water is no longer healthy for consumption anywhere for humans. For cats I imagine it would be a lot worse.

HovaRex posted...

Lol I can almost guarantee you he was pissed.

He was a very chill kitty but also very passive aggressive at times. He growled at my mother once as a kitten, but that was before he was neutered. He also really liked pissing off their other cat (his sister) by randomly doing dickish things for seemingly no reason, like sitting on her head.

Nearly took my eye out once too but that was an accident. He was a kitten and I was basically playing peek a boo with him in this cat tower that they had, with towels draped over the openings. I poked my head in and he batted at me but didn't retract the claws. I must have blinked as a reflex. Better that he got the lid rather than the eyeball but still... That was my fault though. Risky type of play and I should have expected it could end like that >_<

FigureOfSpeech posted...

He was a very chill kitty but also very passive aggressive at times. He growled at my mother once as a kitten, but that was before he was neutered. He also really liked pissing off their other cat (his sister) by randomly doing dickish things for seemingly no reason, like sitting on her head.

Nearly took my eye out once too but that was an accident. He was a kitten and I was basically playing peek a boo with him in this cat tower that they had, with towels draped over the openings. I poked my head in and he batted at me but didn't retract the claws. I must have blinked as a reflex. Better that he got the lid rather than the eyeball but still... That was my fault though. Risky type of play and I should have expected it could end like that >_<

Maybe it's a kitten thing, but almost the exact thing happened to me. Right in the eyelid. Shit stung like a mfer.

Michael_Booth posted...

They can smell the chlorine, as well, and the soap or whatever you clean the bowl with. They much prefer puddle water, which smells sweeter.
If you have some way to store rainwater, cats will drink that fine.

That explains why my cat loves puddle water.

Arcanine2009 posted...

Rain water is no longer healthy for consumption anywhere for humans. For cats I imagine it would be a lot worse.

Well, if we're talking PFAS, then no where is safe:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/feb/23/pfas-testing-forever-chemicals-household-water-cat

Almond milk is ok in small doses. Just dont do it a lot Water is better

FigureOfSpeech posted...

A friend of mine had a cat that wouldn't even drink water... like ever. She would only feed him wet food and would mix water in with it, so that's why he didn't die from dehydration, but any time she tried leaving out a bowl of water for him, he would just permanently ignore it.

Where did the out the water? I know my cat wasnt drinking water at first because it was too close to the food Gotta keep them separated At least, at first